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Pokémon Sword and Shield announced. Coming Late 2019
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If Totem battles were exactly the same, except they were owned and used by the Trial Captains (like "Trial Captain Mallow wants to fight!" and "Trial Captain Mallow sent out Totem Lurantis!"), would that have made them better to you?
Pokemon battles depth is largely from the team aspect. A good gym leader would make full use of this while a totem is just a stronger wild pokemon with SoS on overdrive. Lurantis was the first one to give me trouble, so I leveled up a fire type bird and that made it fairly easy *shrug*
It was still harder than most Gym battles, but that's because they're not using them to their full extent and the balance is wack.
Because gym leaders are actual characters with cool designs, personalities, background, partner Pokémon just like my character, etc. They're cool. A big Raticate? That's not cool. It's just a wild monster.
When I see at fanart like this I remember my fight with these characters and how cool and unique they are and how much they add to Pokémon, both in the games and other media (anime, manga, etc):
When I see a big Raticate I don't feel anything.
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Also, personally I had no trouble at all with any totem in my SM playthrough. Maybe it was just me, but it felt as easy as the usual gym leader, but with fights sometimes lasting even less because you just need to defeat one monster.
Not saying the gym battles are balanced, but they are more memorable to me and sometimes there are like 1 or 2 per game that have some difficulty or at least a funny gimmick . I had a hard time with Viola in XY, for example (that was the only hard one tho lol) and Norman has the whole Protect/Detect tutorial thing in his fight in RSE.
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We know that gyms are back and I'm expecting them to change it up and add more to each one.
I really want Totems back as some story-related boss monsters because it's an easy change of pace for the game, it's not a massive change in battle style or anything but it does require you to battle differently than usual. But I'm glad we're going back to Gyms, nothing really compares imo. The Trial Captains were okay, but it just wasn't the same. Going into their territory, taking on their underlings and solving cute little puzzles, and then taking the Gym Leader on is just a lot more memorable to me to than the Trials. The Kahunas were cool, tho.
In HGSS you can rematch the gym leaders. However, in order to do so, you have to find them on a VERY SPECIFIC DAY, AT A VERY SPECIFIC TIME, IN A VERY SPECIFIC LOCATION, and then they will fuck off to a gym that houses them all in. I believe it was the dojo. They will stay in this area until you beat them. You are given their phone numbers from them or in Chucks case, his wife. So when you need to rematch, you need to CALL THEM in order schedule a rematch on a VERY SPECIFIC DAY.
so GTA is now a linear game? :P
I will never not be pissed off at Mother Beast Lusamine. BW2 and Totems felt like a build up to that moment and they just wasted it
Yes. lol This kind of stuff is more about story/presentation to me.
Not sure if others agree with me considering how almost no one else seems to remember them, but I really like the Chatelaine in XY because they had personalities, unique designs, Vs Screens and even battled in different rulesets... but they failed because they had no unique battle theme to them.
I look at them and think "wow, they're great!"
But then the battle starts with a generic trainer theme instead of a new unique track, something that made the Frontier Brains much more special.
So yeah, I'm not sure other people feel the same way (like I said, I personally love the enemy group "anime" trope), but presentation and personality matter a LOT to me in Pokémon. I want unique characters with unique battle themes, etc. It makes the battles and the game more memorable. The BW series was basically perfect in this, we had in the same gen gym leaders with unique gym themes, them existing outside their gyms, some backstory and bits where we see their personalities, great designs with a lot of variety, the Last Pokémon theme, etc.
Ah ok, I basically don't even consider that because of how convoluted it is. I did the rematches, but never considered a good way to grind.
Totem have some amazingly cool movesets that make them fun, Look at Totem Lurantis for example.
Turn 1 it's going to through a Power Herb'd Solar Blade at you, then it'll summon a Kecleon or a Comfey that will help set up the Sun, which prevents you from hitting it with status, allow it to continue with 1 turn Solar Blades, and Power up it's heal with Synthesis. The Comfey will provide Defence Boosts and Additional Healing, whilst the Kecleon will lower your defences and snipe down Fire and Flyring type pokemon with Ancient Power. It's a pretty powerful set that shows you the weather advantages you can get with a proper team setup...
...But I also have to mention the Firium-Z in the move, because you get the Firium-Z justs before Lurantis, and if you have a decent fire type, you basically will one shot the Lurantis before it really get's to go crazy with the move, and Lurantis has a moveset of 3 moves that all do 0.25 damage to the most common fire type pokemon you will find at Wela Volcano if you needed to pick one up (Fletchinder and Salandit). There's a good chance most players will Firium-Z for the win before even seeing the Kecleon with Ancient Power.
It leaves me mixed on the fight, on a moveset level, it's very creative (Compared to say, Ramos of Kalos or... Let's Go Erika, eww...) but due to the overpowered Z-Move mechanic, many probably don't even get to see most of the fight.
...But then again, a lot of gym leaders in the past tend to be like that anyway. Overlevel enough and you can one-shot their whole teams.
Turn 1 it's going to through a Power Herb'd Solar Blade at you, then it'll summon a Kecleon or a Comfey that will help set up the Sun, which prevents you from hitting it with status, allow it to continue with 1 turn Solar Blades, and Power up it's heal with Synthesis. The Comfey will provide Defence Boosts and Additional Healing, whilst the Kecleon will lower your defences and snipe down Fire and Flyring type pokemon with Ancient Power. It's a pretty powerful set that shows you the weather advantages you can get with a proper team setup...
...But I also have to mention the Firium-Z in the move, because you get the Firium-Z justs before Lurantis, and if you have a decent fire type, you basically will one shot the Lurantis before it really get's to go crazy with the move, and Lurantis has a moveset of 3 moves that all do 0.25 damage to the most common fire type pokemon you will find at Wela Volcano if you needed to pick one up (Fletchinder and Salandit). There's a good chance most players will Firium-Z for the win before even seeing the Kecleon with Ancient Power.
It leaves me mixed on the fight, on a moveset level, it's very creative (Compared to say, Ramos of Kalos or... Let's Go Erika, eww...) but due to the overpowered Z-Move mechanic, many probably don't even get to see most of the fight.
...But then again, a lot of gym leaders in the past tend to be like that anyway. Overlevel enough and you can one-shot their whole teams.
one thing that i want is to make some things like evolutions, a bit more simplifiqued and diverse them, like eevee should evolve with a leaf stone for leafon, a moon stone for umbreon, and to espeon with sun stone, etc. eevee would still evolve with the old methods for a nod to old players, but for new players is a good option that makes sense, because is really frustrating that some evolutions can't use old items that make perfect sense to evolve them because the pokemon didn't exist in a previous generation, like why eevee can't evolve to leafon with a leaf stone, but he/she can evolve to jolteon, vaporeon, and flareon with their respective stone, aside from that in red/blue there wasn't a grass evolution to eevee, like is really stupid and makes worldbuilding cheap and false.
I'd love something like this (at least from what I've seen of DQXI)
I feel like they'll be changing more evolution methods, like they did with Milotic (became a trade evolution instead of beauty stat). Though if we're seeing Sinnoh remakes this gen they might keep the evolution methods for Glaceon and Leafeon to preserve their 'Sinnoh-ness' and because the ice and moss rock will most likely be in the remakes.
Well it's not so much change evolutions because the method of evolution isn't there anymore in Milotic's scenario.
More like offer an alternative route for evolution... especially for trade evolutions.
You can get a Salandit/Salazzle just before this part as well. I didn't even see Lurantis doing anything.
Fair enough!
X/Y's Battle Chateau was a much better implemented version of HG/SS' dojo. There's always at least a few high level trainers to battle, with the occasional gym leader (and I think even E4 member?) there to add some nice mix up. Made better for grinding (whether exp or money) by O-Powers too.
Feebas was only given an alternate method to evolve because contests stats couldn't be altered in Gen 5. I think you could still evolve it both ways if its stat was high enough.
But GF still wanting consistency to explain future evos/prevos is dumb as it's led to things like Leafeon/Glaceon and Magnezone/Probopass being unobtainable in HGSS (still unsure if this was an oversight or not) . Lickitung could already learn Rollout in Gen 2 so it isn't even completely consistent.
If Espeon and Umbreon were stone evos, Slyveon would have more than likely been a friendship evolution instead of the weird Amie + Fairy move requirement.
Would anyone really care at this point if Baby Pokemon didn't require the appropriate incense to obtain them.
You would have a point.... if gym leaders werent just cardboard cutouts with mostly no personality (with the exception of 5th gen).Because gym leaders are actual characters with cool designs, personalities, background, partner Pokémon just like my character, etc. They're cool. A big Raticate? That's not cool. It's just a wild monster.
When I see at fanart like this I remember my fight with these characters and how cool and unique they are and how much they add to Pokémon, both in the games and other media (anime, manga, etc):
When I see a big Raticate I don't feel anything.
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Also, personally I had no trouble at all with any totem in my SM playthrough. Maybe it was just me, but it felt as easy as the usual gym leader, but with fights sometimes lasting even less because you just need to defeat one monster.
Not saying the gym battles are balanced, but they are more memorable to me and sometimes there are like 1 or 2 per game that have some difficulty or at least a funny gimmick . I had a hard time with Viola in XY, for example (that was the only hard one tho lol) and Norman has the whole Protect/Detect tutorial thing in his fight in RSE.
There's an abundance of fletchling before Viola's gym that makes the battle stupidly easy with the 4x bug resist.
During battle the gym leader comes on screen a grand total of two times to say a line. It was just you fighting pokemon that was just a bit overleveled than usual.
With Totems, it felt like shit was about to go down.
one of the reasons I like the trial captains more than a lot of the gym leaders is because they actually exist in their world beyond the gym. Gen 5 was teh start of that, and Gen 6 dropped that ball. Gen 7 picked it up immensely at least. Acerola was a break out character because of it. and watching Hapu go from being a curious country bumpkin to kahuna was great to see. as well as Acerola's reasoning for being an Elite 4 member.
and speaking of E4, it's funny to see the gym leaders being praised, but for the same method for their existence, Kahili is derided in Gen 7
and on the topic of the route 1s, I hope that area with the lakes is more akin to Pondry Hills in Monster Hunter Stories instead of some segmented area with no exploration.
Pondry Hills is right outside the starting town, so it serves as an awe inspiring reveal of the world. pokemon could really use a similar effect
and speaking of E4, it's funny to see the gym leaders being praised, but for the same method for their existence, Kahili is derided in Gen 7
and on the topic of the route 1s, I hope that area with the lakes is more akin to Pondry Hills in Monster Hunter Stories instead of some segmented area with no exploration.
Pondry Hills is right outside the starting town, so it serves as an awe inspiring reveal of the world. pokemon could really use a similar effect
If they do away with that, then they should also do away with babies being unable to breed. Getting rid of incenses would just make most of those Pokemon more annoying to IV/egg move breed since you'd then have to evolve each one before you can move on to the next step of the breeding process.
But that also coincides with another frustration I have with babies. I really think they should do away with the happiness requirement most of them have for evolving. There's no reason why that Azurill or Pichu you catch on Route 3 should take until level 20-something of casual play to evolve into a basic Marill or Pikachu. Vary it by baby of course, but just let my Pichu or Azurill evolve at level 10, my Budew at level 16, my Chingling and level 22, etc...
Yeah when I played Sun version I had the Firium-Z on my Torracat, so I was able to OHKO it before it could do anything. But in Ultra Moon I didn't have any fire in my party and once this thing got one turn of set up it freakin demolished me lolTotem have some amazingly cool movesets that make them fun, Look at Totem Lurantis for example.
Turn 1 it's going to through a Power Herb'd Solar Blade at you, then it'll summon a Kecleon or a Comfey that will help set up the Sun, which prevents you from hitting it with status, allow it to continue with 1 turn Solar Blades, and Power up it's heal with Synthesis. The Comfey will provide Defence Boosts and Additional Healing, whilst the Kecleon will lower your defences and snipe down Fire and Flyring type pokemon with Ancient Power. It's a pretty powerful set that shows you the weather advantages you can get with a proper team setup...
...But I also have to mention the Firium-Z in the move, because you get the Firium-Z justs before Lurantis, and if you have a decent fire type, you basically will one shot the Lurantis before it really get's to go crazy with the move, and Lurantis has a moveset of 3 moves that all do 0.25 damage to the most common fire type pokemon you will find at Wela Volcano if you needed to pick one up (Fletchinder and Salandit). There's a good chance most players will Firium-Z for the win before even seeing the Kecleon with Ancient Power.
It leaves me mixed on the fight, on a moveset level, it's very creative (Compared to say, Ramos of Kalos or... Let's Go Erika, eww...) but due to the overpowered Z-Move mechanic, many probably don't even get to see most of the fight.
...But then again, a lot of gym leaders in the past tend to be like that anyway. Overlevel enough and you can one-shot their whole teams.
For me it would just have to be a whole new game. Some kind of Mystery Dungeon / PokéPark where you're controlling a Pokémon, so it makes more sense to have this adventure-like gameplay in an open world.
The main games as they are right now, I think it just doesn't make sense to have such a complex and developed overworld, when that's not the point of the game, the main thing here is collecting all the Pokémon and battling.
If any, the only thing I'd add / change, would be more npc's to fight. I don't know how complicated it would be, but it'd be nice if you could rely on something else besides wild Pokémon to gain experience after you beat the league, and something different than these facilities like the restaurant in Pokémon X/Y or that sports place in Unova. That you could rebattle the npc's on every route, but that they were actually getting stronger / changing up their teams each time you battle them. At the very least that you could rebattle them every day or every time you defeat the league.
Another thing I've said before, it's the gyms. I don't know what purpose these stadiums-like places are gonna have, and from now on it's almost safe to say that on each new generation they're gonna keep replacing the gyms with a new kind of mechanic each time, but I think gym leaders should be back, the difference being that every day they would be visited by new, different trainers that you could battle against, including the gym leader. With the same characteristics I said: stronger, different teams each time. Of course they would have to have a limit of "variations" programmed, but you should have to battle them many times before they reach their "strongest" form.
If you think about Pokémon games in general, I see that there are many "resources", call them npc's, gyms, gym leaders, all those buildings you visit, all the tall grass patches especially from the first routes, that are simply wasted after you visit them once, or interact with them once. After you finish the game you either just spend the rest of the time using the online functionalities, or the Battle Tower equivalent of the game, or the league, or battling wild Pokémon only from the last routes with the strongest Pokémon so they give you more experience, and it's kinda sad. I think they should give an alternative purpose to all these things for the post-game.
having totem bosses on the field would be a good "meet us halfway" for not having pokemon on the field. kinda like Xenoblade's unique monsters
A moderator of this forum told me the title of the games, a few hours before his announcement. I did not remember it but that was D:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/po...ns-dreams-rumors-and-more.65250/post-18328541
https://www.resetera.com/threads/po...ns-dreams-rumors-and-more.65250/post-18328541
Hmmm, but he told us he knew nothing. :O lies I tell you lol
Put a level 70 Totem Garchomp roaming in Route 1 to get the full Xenoblade experience.
Fan request
I would like to see companions being a thing in either Sword or Shield (very unlikely) or a later game and to be something like an expansion of the Star Trainers of Gen 4.
How I would see is that you meet each of the six (speed, attack, special attack, defense, special defense and HP) in area of the map and you can optionally help them in their task and after that, have the option to have them tag along with you and partake in double and triple battles, get you items and optional story content depending on who is tagging along with you, how much you've talked to them and how long you've known them.
Max is two at a time. Is that too much?
I would like to see companions being a thing in either Sword or Shield (very unlikely) or a later game and to be something like an expansion of the Star Trainers of Gen 4.
How I would see is that you meet each of the six (speed, attack, special attack, defense, special defense and HP) in area of the map and you can optionally help them in their task and after that, have the option to have them tag along with you and partake in double and triple battles, get you items and optional story content depending on who is tagging along with you, how much you've talked to them and how long you've known them.
Max is two at a time. Is that too much?
I mean, is this any different from what they've done with legendaries since R/B? They've always been on the field
Unless they're Ultra Necrozma level, Totems are nothing like regular legendaries.
Regular legendaries, ON AN OPEN FIELD.
Anyway, totems seem super-cool but I don't like how apparently Sun and Moon only have four gym leader stand-ins as a result? The Big Kakunas?
So maybe for Sword and Shield they can include totems out in the wilds, like at the center of some woods or a dead end on a mountain trail. And as for legendaries, they'd be harder to find — secret caves and whatnot like usual.
Anyway, totems seem super-cool but I don't like how apparently Sun and Moon only have four gym leader stand-ins as a result? The Big Kakunas?
So maybe for Sword and Shield they can include totems out in the wilds, like at the center of some woods or a dead end on a mountain trail. And as for legendaries, they'd be harder to find — secret caves and whatnot like usual.
The thing is, if that ever happened, they wouldn't even be called Totems, because that's just so Alolan / Hawaiian. They would have to come up with yet another term/category, and we go back to the same issue of always: they keep creating stuff that is just so tied to one region or one game that just can't keep on evolving or increasing in future generations. We don't even know if Totem Pokémon are gonna be transferable to SS.
They brought back totems in Let's Go, they just never had a name and weren't super-sized. I don't see any reason totems can't be transferred. They're tournament legal, so I think it's just a built-in scaling attribute
I mean you have the right idea, they could call them anything and have same mechanic. Regal Pokemon, Honor Pokemon, Knight Pokemon, etc.
Eh, they should move away from region specific naming conventions, otherwise they'll have to come up with a new name for every subsequent region or be more likely to not bring back the feature
I don't know what you're calling totems in Let's Go, the Master Trainers? Or battleable Pokémon like Snorlax, Electrode, etc? Anyways, if they're not super-sized nor called totems, then they're definitely not Totem Pokémon.
Also Totem Pokémon were tied to Trials. So even though it's probable they bring some sort of trial for SS, it's most likely going to be something totally different.
And that could be a thing, or the names Captain Harlock suggested, but I go back to my comment, they'll always end up coming up with new, "original" things on every generation, that are just gonna be scrapped/replaced by something else the next generation. And if they DO choose a new term, they'll most likely make them different from Totem Pokémon in some way, thus creating a whole new category rather than expanding the already existing.
I can't think of an example where they've named differently the same feature. Even Pokémon Amie / Pokémon Refresh have differences. Maybe Primal Reversion could be considered a type of Mega Evolution, but technically they're supposed to be different things.
I mean, I'm not against the idea of Totem Pokémon or similar, I just doubt they'll recycle the same concept from the previous generation, or that they'll even bring it back; they'll always find a way to tweak a concept to create something new and forget about the previous one.
there are no battleable electrodes, that's in Johto. and while they're not totems, they have the same effect, minus the assist pokemon and the size. the stat boosting effect being in LG, at least, tells me they might keep the effect for SS
There are "boss" Electrodes in Let's Go, in the Power Plant.
huh, don't remember that in the original game. I guess it was an addition?
Yeah, it looked like an upside down "item" pokéball that you could interact with and trigger the battle:
There's probably going to be some team battling in the stadiums
I hope they don't reveal the final starter evolutions before launch this time like they did with Sun and Moon. Am I right in thinking that that was the first time they'd done that since Gen 3?
Serebii do you know if the leaks influenced the decision to show off the Gen VII starter evolutions, or if they were probably always going to do that?
Serebii do you know if the leaks influenced the decision to show off the Gen VII starter evolutions, or if they were probably always going to do that?