Pokémon Sword and Shield announced. Coming Late 2019

Which starter will you choose?


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mnk

Member
Nov 11, 2017
369
Magearna's an odd one. Its aesthetic and royalty backstory certainly fit Kalos more and its signature move being called Fleur Cannon makes the comparisons to Floette/the ancient weapon feel a bit too on the nose. There's the unused Poke Ball coloured form.

On the other hand, it is explained that some sort of royalty used to exist in Alola and I'm struggling to think of and having two new mythicals for one movie seems out of the ordinary. They also kind of used the princess theme already that generation with Diancie.
Well if Z had happened, then Gen VI's lifetime would've been expanded and there probably would've been another Kalos movie too. So there wouldn't have to be any sharing.
 

snikdasnek

Member
Jan 1, 2019
72
I find it funny how big the gap between the champions/E4 and the trainers in the pokemon league is in the anime. Like Paul was a championship contender but she swept him with her Garchomp pretty easily. The anime makes it seem like, for the most part, the Champion basically only ever has to even worry about the E4 to make them actually try., at least in the DP anime, where the E4/champion were most prominent.
 
Feb 26, 2019
284
Tijuana
It's kinda weird that we have never seen a Normal Type Eltie Four Member - i guess the reason why is because Normal Pokemon are easier to take down i guess which is why there hasn't been one.
They could take advantage of dual type Pokémon, and have a varied team, ie: Sawsbuck, Pyroar, Bewear, Heliolisk, Pidgeot, Lopunny.

There are many options: Drampa, Oranguru, Diggersby, Girafarig, Wigglytuff, and all the Normal/Flying birds.
 

N75

Member
Oct 25, 2017
778
The Zygarde Cell quest in SM will always be up there as the one most forced subplots in a Pokemon game.

They try and make it seem like Zygarde is foreseeing the UB outbreak, but absolutely nothing comes of it and it ignores the backstory set up in XY that it's there to as a neutralizing force to Xerneas and Yveltal's power in Kalos.

Honestly, the way the anime shows it makes more sense. I feel like Power Construct originally wasn't a thing and there were supposed to be only two cores with one having a blue nucleus, which is reflected in Zygarde Complete's design.

Form changing was possibly handled entirely by the Zygarde Cube or something else.

Magearna was definitely gonna be Zeraora one gen earlier, a mythical added in the last games. It like Zygarde are drawn in the Gen 6 style which is immediately noticed compared to the flatter more vibrant Gen 7 style.
I noticed this as well, but we had seen no other Gen 7 artwork at that point. I'm pretty sure that Sugimori drew the official art for most Alola forms as well.
 

Birdie

Member
Oct 26, 2017
4,002
Oh yeah DP actually ended with Ash watching Cynthia's Championship challenged by I think Flint.

That was neat.
 

snikdasnek

Member
Jan 1, 2019
72
Oh yeah DP actually ended with Ash watching Cynthia's Championship challenged by I think Flint.

That was neat.
Yeah, I remember all this because the marathon was last month lol. Flint took her down to her last pokemon, but ended up losing to her Garchomp, but generally champions/E4 in the anime are basically undefeated and on another tier than everyone else.
 
Feb 20, 2019
343
Sorry for being off topic but wait what

Klinklang's line is the only pokémon evolution line with a single steel typing, excluding megas, mythicals and legendaries


That's like, really interesting. I never thought about this before. wow
 
Feb 26, 2019
284
Tijuana
Sorry for being off topic but wait what

Klinklang's line is the only pokémon evolution line with a single steel typing, excluding megas, mythicals and legendaries


That's like, really interesting. I never thought about this before. wow
I think, if I'm not mistaken, that most of Gen V's evolutionary lines were created with the specific instruction to fill certain types / combination of types.
 

Moltres006

Member
Jan 5, 2019
615
Mega Lopunny
Oranguru
Staraptor
Huge power Diggersby
Snorlax
Eviolite Porygon 2
There's your elite 4 member's normal team.
 

Charlie0108

Member
Oct 29, 2017
491
Really surprised we haven't heard anything yet to be honest. Have I just imagined a quote from Masuda/Ishihara saying they wanted to stop the big delays between announcement and promotional campaign after Sun and Moon or did that actually happen?
 

Birdie

Member
Oct 26, 2017
4,002
The Diamond and Pearl anime was so amazing... probably the best realized "world" in that season with a lot of little moving parts outside of just what Ash experienced.
 

diakyu

Member
Dec 15, 2018
1,272
Pokemon special is setting up the climax for the SM chapter to be complete zygarde vs ultra necrozma. Shoulda been that in the games smh
 

N75

Member
Oct 25, 2017
778
The Diamond and Pearl anime was so amazing... probably the best realized "world" in that season with a lot of little moving parts outside of just what Ash experienced.
Then they realized that Ash has to move onto Unova so they created the anime personification of a hacker.

They even brought up the Champion League thing multiple times where you win the regular league and can challenge the E4.
 

TrafficCoen

The Fallen
Feb 22, 2019
106
It's a weird holdover from the early versions of Red/blue where it was bird type, not flying, and when they realised non-avian flying objects exist they reworked all the bird types into normal flying.

It's why doduo and dotrio are flying type despite it not making sense lore wise
 

Birdie

Member
Oct 26, 2017
4,002
Are they gonna address the fact Pokemon in Alola straight-up speak?

Kommo-O straight up just yells "SOUND!" at you.
 

Birdie

Member
Oct 26, 2017
4,002
Yo beat Ultra Necrozma...wrecked me the first time, but second time I used a Focus Sash to keep Malamar alive to confuse him and then that got a free turn for Primarina to finish him off with Moon Blast.

As much as I dislike how the Trials turned out the final trial in USUM where you go around and meet up with the Captains is pretty neat. Probably because the anime made me love them a lot where in the games they're just...not that interesting?
 

lvl 99 Pixel

Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,097
Are they gonna address the fact Pokemon in Alola straight-up speak?

Kommo-O straight up just yells "SOUND!" at you.
Some of the localization is weird in Sun and Moon. Like some pretty broken sentences, so it wouldn't be surprising if its just a strange translation.

I wonder if those are actually meant to be Japanese sound effects and the localization just turned them into words.
its probably this
 

Birdie

Member
Oct 26, 2017
4,002
I wonder if those are actually meant to be Japanese sound effects and the localization just turned them into words.
 

Phellps

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,224
Yo beat Ultra Necrozma...wrecked me the first time, but second time I used a Focus Sash to keep Malamar alive to confuse him and then that got a free turn for Primarina to finish him off with Moon Blast.

As much as I dislike how the Trials turned out the final trial in USUM where you go around and meet up with the Captains is pretty neat. Probably because the anime made me love them a lot where in the games they're just...not that interesting?
It was the most uninspired trial they could give Mina, but it was also a cool recap of all the places and captains you've defeated throughout the game, so it was ok.
I don't know why they just didn't do that in SM though.
 

Birdie

Member
Oct 26, 2017
4,002
I noticed I didn't battle Mallow or Sophocoles...I assume it's a Version Difference for Mallow as I took on Suiren instead, but it's weird Sophocoles doesn't fight you.

I guess he makes up for it by challenging you as the E4 Champ right?
 

snikdasnek

Member
Jan 1, 2019
72
Yo beat Ultra Necrozma...wrecked me the first time, but second time I used a Focus Sash to keep Malamar alive to confuse him and then that got a free turn for Primarina to finish him off with Moon Blast.

As much as I dislike how the Trials turned out the final trial in USUM where you go around and meet up with the Captains is pretty neat. Probably because the anime made me love them a lot where in the games they're just...not that interesting?
When you say you disliked the trials did you mean the bosses themselves or the actual trial leading up to the totem. Because I'd agree with the latter, but I thought the trail bosses were some of the best battles main story pokemon has ever had, and were way more well thought out than gyms.
 

Birdie

Member
Oct 26, 2017
4,002
Oh yeah the Bosses are pretty neat...a bit dissapointed you can beat most of them by poisoning and then spamming heals but oh well.

But I mean yeah the actual Trials seemed undercooked and a bit lame. I wish there was more variety, like I would've appreciated honestly mini-games even using the Ride Pokemon or a mission to go around capturing Pokemon.

Most of them are weird visual novel scenes basically. Sophocoles was perhaps the best for being an actual puzzle.
 
Feb 24, 2018
493
Oh yeah the Bosses are pretty neat...a bit dissapointed you can beat most of them by poisoning and then spamming heals but oh well.

But I mean yeah the actual Trials seemed undercooked and a bit lame. I wish there was more variety, like I would've appreciated honestly mini-games even using the Ride Pokemon or a mission to go around capturing Pokemon.

Most of them are weird visual novel scenes basically. Sophocoles was perhaps the best for being an actual puzzle.
For me, Lana's was the best but more for because of how Lana herself made it enjoyable with her dialogue and attitude, which makes it a shame they removed all that in the Ultra games.
 
Feb 26, 2019
284
Tijuana
Yo beat Ultra Necrozma...wrecked me the first time, but second time I used a Focus Sash to keep Malamar alive to confuse him and then that got a free turn for Primarina to finish him off with Moon Blast.

As much as I dislike how the Trials turned out the final trial in USUM where you go around and meet up with the Captains is pretty neat. Probably because the anime made me love them a lot where in the games they're just...not that interesting?
I keep reading in here how hard USUM were for most people, but I think it's one of the easiest games I've played. Ultra Necrozma could've caused more trouble, but my Pokémon kept hanging on without a Focus Sash, just with the heart-ness whatever that is lol with that they resist to make you happy or whatever. Throughout most of the game they healed themselves from status conditions too, so it made it even easier. My team wasn't even that spectacular: Decidueye, Malamar, Salazzle made most of it, and the other three just kept rotating them depending on which Pokémon I wanted to evolve. Just the shared experience made them level up like crazy.
 
Oct 26, 2017
1,358
Sorry for being off topic but wait what

Klinklang's line is the only pokémon evolution line with a single steel typing, excluding megas, mythicals and legendaries


That's like, really interesting. I never thought about this before. wow
They really need to give this guy some moves.
It's usuable offensive movepool consists of Gear Grind, Wild Charge and Return...
And it's a real shame because its stats would actually be decent enough to make good use of Shift Gear if it only had some more moves to use after using it...
 

KillstealWolf

Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
3,937
Considering I didn't like BOTW and it's changes to the Zelda franchise, no thanks on that front.

And so far it looks like it's going to be fairly similar to past games anyway in structure, even going back to returning to gyms again (Although maybe with a difference? I've been holding off posting my fourth gym leader across the generations analysis until the Sword and Shield news starts up and we have a better idea what the Gym Masters will be.)
 

yuoke

Member
Oct 25, 2017
21,853
Why not? Is not all about graphics. We don't know anything about the story, gameplay and another game elements.
Because we saw the trailer and gameplay? Does that look like a botw-tier drastic shift or the same? Zell himself essentially even went back on that from the reveal saying that it clearly didn't fit what he heard.
 

lvl 99 Pixel

Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,097
Why not? Is not all about graphics. We don't know anything about the story, gameplay and another game elements.
Graphics weren't the only thing shown. From what we saw it likely has lots of linear paths, standard starter typing trinity, how the battles look and tall grass random encounters. Not necessarily a bad thing, but nothing about it suggests reinvention and keeps the 3 year development cycle from the previous generation so im not sure what he means by "taking their time with it".
 

ILikeFeet

Member
Oct 25, 2017
18,063
I keep reading in here how hard USUM were for most people, but I think it's one of the easiest games I've played.
Don't play Let's Go, cause that's even easier. Even without items. Also it just shows that the single player really isn't balanced around items. Or anything really: many pokemon and moves are suited for doubles and there's nary a doubles battle in the game, NPCs rarely hold effective items to boost potential (the number of pokemon holding evolite should be obscene), nor are mechanics used and abused save for leaders and select route trainers.

Challenge Mode really needs to make a comeback
 

Faxeo

Member
Apr 21, 2019
60
But a new trailer when they plan to show it? For the past few generations there has always been a trailer in mid-May.
 

Moltres006

Member
Jan 5, 2019
615
I keep reading in here how hard USUM were for most people, but I think it's one of the easiest games I've played. Ultra Necrozma could've caused more trouble, but my Pokémon kept hanging on without a Focus Sash, just with the heart-ness whatever that is lol with that they resist to make you happy or whatever. Throughout most of the game they healed themselves from status conditions too, so it made it even easier. My team wasn't even that spectacular: Decidueye, Malamar, Salazzle made most of it, and the other three just kept rotating them depending on which Pokémon I wanted to evolve. Just the shared experience made them level up like crazy.
Depends on your team. I almost lost to Olivia because I was using special attacking pokemon and she had a sand stream gigalith which made it impossible for my primarina to OHKO her rock type pokemon.
 

Phellps

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,224
Because we saw the trailer and gameplay? Does that look like a botw-tier drastic shift or the same? Zell himself essentially even went back on that from the reveal saying that it clearly didn't fit what he heard.
I mean, I can also make a trailer from footage taken from Breath of the Wild and make it look exactly like old Zelda games. I'm not saying I believe SwSh is going to be such a huge shift for the franchise, but there might be big changes that they just weren't ready to show at the reveal.