They need the yellow for the gold trim on the evos.While we are at the subject of Pokemon designs, can we all agree Tepig's yellow mark is garbage and detracts from his design?
Thank you.
They need the yellow for the gold trim on the evos.While we are at the subject of Pokemon designs, can we all agree Tepig's yellow mark is garbage and detracts from his design?
Thank you.
Goodra looks kinda odd, but I definitely see your point. The changes eyes definitely give newer Pokémon that "gen 1/2" look.I don't think it's much about if they were round or triangular, but the design itself.
In the first generation we have that kind of eyes from Squirtle, Bulbasaur, etc which is more oval, then we have the "Dragon Ball" like eyes, like Pinsir, Scyther, Dodrio, etc. Then we have the pointy eyes like Oddish, Vileplume, Bellsprout. And so on. As I said on other post, for better or for worse, those were the types of eyes introduced in the first generation, and anything that stays away from that will seem strange to many people. The second generation still retained most of the styles from the first, while introducing a few more. But from the third generation onwards, designs became fresher, more modernized and stylized. Edgier, cooler, more digimon-ish while not exactly digimon.
I think it's ok eyes "evolved" because now they can have prettier designs, but I do see the difference they talk about. It really makes a huge difference, but kinda makes them look "old".
That edit looks markedly worse to me. The yellow provides a nice break from looking to plain and ties in nicely with the gold on its later evos. Also makes his nose look like a lit coal which ties in to the fire beard Emboar getsWhile we are at the subject of Pokemon designs, can we all agree Tepig's yellow mark is garbage and detracts from his design?
Thank you.
I just really hope we get more Ultra Beast-esque designs. Incomprehensible creatures that don't necessarily follow design conventions of humanoids or animals much at all. Xurkitree and its world in particular were really cool, and abstract shit like Blacephalon, Stakataka, Kartana, and Celesteela are great. I think its one of the best concepts in Pokemon, but I'm not surprised opinion on them tends to be mixed, since they're a bit out there.
These adits are awful in every way, they don't look more "Pokémon" and they don't even make them feel more like gen 1.I don't think it's much about if they were round or triangular, but the design itself.
In the first generation we have that kind of eyes from Squirtle, Bulbasaur, etc which is more oval, then we have the "Dragon Ball" like eyes, like Pinsir, Scyther, Dodrio, etc. Then we have the pointy eyes like Oddish, Vileplume, Bellsprout. And so on. As I said on other post, for better or for worse, those were the types of eyes introduced in the first generation, and anything that stays away from that will seem strange to many people. The second generation still retained most of the styles from the first, while introducing a few more. But from the third generation onwards, designs became fresher, more modernized and stylized. Edgier, cooler, more digimon-ish while not exactly digimon.
I think it's ok eyes "evolved" because now they can have prettier designs, but I do see the difference they talk about. It really makes a huge difference, but kinda makes them look "old".
Those are terribleI don't think it's much about if they were round or triangular, but the design itself.
In the first generation we have that kind of eyes from Squirtle, Bulbasaur, etc which is more oval, then we have the "Dragon Ball" like eyes, like Pinsir, Scyther, Dodrio, etc. Then we have the pointy eyes like Oddish, Vileplume, Bellsprout. And so on. As I said on other post, for better or for worse, those were the types of eyes introduced in the first generation, and anything that stays away from that will seem strange to many people. The second generation still retained most of the styles from the first, while introducing a few more. But from the third generation onwards, designs became fresher, more modernized and stylized. Edgier, cooler, more digimon-ish while not exactly digimon.
I think it's ok eyes "evolved" because now they can have prettier designs, but I do see the difference they talk about. It really makes a huge difference, but kinda makes them look "old".
I mean eyes are probably the biggest reason why people shit on Funko Pops
How dare you.Utterly sick of Gen 1 at this point though, and I have a strange hatred of Grumpig that I can't explain to this day (love Spoink though)
Elygem is great, both cute and cool design, and interesting lore to it. Not surprised coming from gen 5 though.I was playing Ultra Sun earlier in the week and ran into an Elgyem (the 5th Gen alien pokemon) who I haven't seen in any of the 3D games.
I remember thinking it was a neat looking Pokemon but never used one.
One thing that I didn't realize about it is that in 3D it floats, I had no idea about that.
So when I encountered one in Ultra Sun it was a big surprise to me, and I went "Hey, I've never used one of these!" I caught it and slotted it into my team and I love it.
The longer the series goes on the more I learn to appreciate every Pokemon, even if I don't like them straight away I usually end up liking them for some reason or another, even it's just because they are a neat concept.
Utterly sick of Gen 1 at this point though, and I have a strange hatred of Grumpig that I can't explain to this day (love Spoink though)
Man am I glad genwunners at least don't dictate nee designs.I don't think it's much about if they were round or triangular, but the design itself.
In the first generation we have that kind of eyes from Squirtle, Bulbasaur, etc which is more oval, then we have the "Dragon Ball" like eyes, like Pinsir, Scyther, Dodrio, etc. Then we have the pointy eyes like Oddish, Vileplume, Bellsprout. And so on. As I said on other post, for better or for worse, those were the types of eyes introduced in the first generation, and anything that stays away from that will seem strange to many people. The second generation still retained most of the styles from the first, while introducing a few more. But from the third generation onwards, designs became fresher, more modernized and stylized. Edgier, cooler, more digimon-ish while not exactly digimon.
I think it's ok eyes "evolved" because now they can have prettier designs, but I do see the difference they talk about. It really makes a huge difference, but kinda makes them look "old".
I feel like the biggest reason why designs are more simple was due to the Gameboy. As technology got better, the limitations were lifted to do crazier designs. Gen 6 and 7 in particular also have designs that benefits from 3d like... Alolan Muk for example.
Designs wouldve ultimately stagnated if there was no room to improve.
I see this argument a lot, but I really don't agree. There were already plenty of Pokemon that didn't translate very well into Red and Green sprites, if not most of them. Sugimori's artwork is radically different from what we see in the games, so I don't really see that they were trying to simplify anything to achieve more fidelity.
I think they were simpler because these were simpler times, there were way less monster franchises than today, we had seen way less tropes and different designs from media in general, so they didn't need to try too hard to come up with something fresh. Hell, at the time Digimon wasn't even a thing.
Today a design like Pidgey simply isn't passable, it has to have colors, pointy feathers, big eyes, or else it won't be noticed.
It would be nice if they padded out the dexes for each game with a variety from every gen rather than just going back to the old standbys every time. Like, use the fact that there are hundreds of pokemon that a lot of people have never seen or haven't seen in years to your advantage instead of smothering the player in caterpies and pidgeysI was playing Ultra Sun earlier in the week and ran into an Elgyem (the 5th Gen alien pokemon) who I haven't seen in any of the 3D games.
I remember thinking it was a neat looking Pokemon but never used one.
One thing that I didn't realize about it is that in 3D it floats, I had no idea about that.
So when I encountered one in Ultra Sun it was a big surprise to me, and I went "Hey, I've never used one of these!" I caught it and slotted it into my team and I love it.
The longer the series goes on the more I learn to appreciate every Pokemon, even if I don't like them straight away I usually end up liking them for some reason or another, even it's just because they are a neat concept.
Utterly sick of Gen 1 at this point though, and I have a strange hatred of Grumpig that I can't explain to this day (love Spoink though)
I see this argument a lot, but I really don't agree. There were already plenty of Pokemon that didn't translate very well into Red and Green sprites, if not most of them. Sugimori's artwork is radically different from what we see in the games, so I don't really see that they were trying to simplify anything to achieve more fidelity.
I think they were simpler because these were simpler times, there were way less monster franchises than today, we had seen way less tropes and different designs from media in general, so they didn't need to try too hard to come up with something fresh. Hell, at the time Digimon wasn't even a thing.
Today a design like Pidgey simply isn't passable, it has to have colors, pointy feathers, big eyes, or else it won't be noticed.
Genwunners were playin pokemon at the same time they were watching Dragon Ball Z. Often literally the same time since they were playing it on the couch during commercial breaks of DBZ. They want everything to look like that because it's nostalgic to them, but they have trouble putting into words why they want those eyes so much because they don't have self awareness. That's all there is to it. They don't actually care about the aesthetics, they just care about what is nostalgic to them.I don't think it's much about if they were round or triangular, but the design itself.
In the first generation we have that kind of eyes from Squirtle, Bulbasaur, etc which is more oval, then we have the "Dragon Ball" like eyes, like Pinsir, Scyther, Dodrio, etc. Then we have the pointy eyes like Oddish, Vileplume, Bellsprout. And so on. As I said on other post, for better or for worse, those were the types of eyes introduced in the first generation, and anything that stays away from that will seem strange to many people. The second generation still retained most of the styles from the first, while introducing a few more. But from the third generation onwards, designs became fresher, more modernized and stylized. Edgier, cooler, more digimon-ish while not exactly digimon.
I think it's ok eyes "evolved" because now they can have prettier designs, but I do see the difference they talk about. It really makes a huge difference, but kinda makes them look "old".
Tepig is cool until it evolves, much like the other gen 5 starters. The yellow mark is cool though.
While Alola has a lot of Kanto Pokemon, the individual dexes didn't do a bad job pulling from the other gens.It would be nice if they padded out the dexes for each game with a variety from every gen rather than just going back to the old standbys every time. Like, use the fact that there are hundreds of pokemon that a lot of people have never seen or haven't seen in years to your advantage instead of smothering the player in caterpies and pidgeys
Emboar always struck me as a Pokemon that I would've thought would be more popular around these parts. I wonder if the Fighting-type sunk it
Emboar always struck me as a Pokemon that I would've thought would be more popular around these parts. I wonder if the Fighting-type sunk it
I guess what I should've said is I'm curious as to what people specifically dislike about itI am definitely tired of Fire/Fighting starters, but that doesn't mean I can't appreciate a good design.
Emboar does not have a good design.
A handful of decent Ice types that rely heavily on their abilities and secondary typings doesn't mean that the others don't need/shouldn't get help, though. There should be Ice types that excel defensively despite their weaknesses, but Ice doesn't bring anything to the table. Offensively, having Ice type stab is nice, but not essential, and in a lot of cases, just less efficient than using something else with an Ice type move. Making better Ice type Pokemon in general should be an objective, but there's an inherent part of being an Ice type that is so lackluster that it's worth addressing. Arbitrarily painting them into a corner and limiting their potential just isn't fun.In the right circumstances with the right spread, ice types can be deadly. Like weavile, who doesn't even hit 130 base speed. Give it a weakened team, and it's sweeping. You're right though that Pokemon that fit this role are far and few between, but that isn't a justification. Avalugg sucks, but that's just it, defensive ice types ain't good and that's okay.
Good ice types include, weavile, mamoswine, cloyster, Alolan Ninetales and arguably froslass and jynx. All offensive Pokemon. But even then, none of them have particularly amazing stat spreads. Their abilities and ice stab help them greatly to become good. Everyone and their mom wants ice beam in their learnset.
But also the ice type pool isn't too big to begin with as it's the rarest type in the game.
I like Emboar more than Infernape
Is there something wrong with me
I guess what I should've said is I'm curious as to what people specifically dislike about it
all of tepig is garbageWhile we are at the subject of Pokemon designs, can we all agree Tepig's yellow mark is garbage and detracts from his design?
Thank you.
WhatEmboar design is fine, it's better than Incineroar, Delphox, and Tysplosion
strong disagreeWhile we are at the subject of Pokemon designs, can we all agree Tepig's yellow mark is garbage and detracts from his design?
Thank you.
I don't hate Tysplosion I just find his design kind of bland
Take it back.Emboar design is fine, it's better than Incineroar, Delphox, and Tysplosion
Replace Infernape with Charizard and you have at least the first 3 rightInfernape>Blaziken>Charizard>>>>>>>>>>Typhlosion>Delphox>Incineroar>Emboar
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Charizard is overrated as hellReplace Infernape with Charizard and you have at least the first 3 right
OOOfff. I always knew my opinion on starters was always different from the popular opinion, but for me it would be Typhlosion>Delphox>Infernape>Incineroar=Emboar>>> Charizard>Blaziken.Infernape > Blaziken > Charizard >>>>>>>>>> Typhlosion > Delphox > Incineroar > Emboar
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