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What would you like to see the most in the upcoming direct?

  • New Pokémon

    Votes: 186 30.6%
  • Legendary Pokémon

    Votes: 58 9.5%
  • Info on new mechanics

    Votes: 244 40.1%
  • I just want to know if there's free camera movement

    Votes: 120 19.7%

  • Total voters
    608
  • Poll closed .

Phellps

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Oct 25, 2017
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The last time a semi-accurate rumor turned out to be legit:

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Dwebble

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Oct 25, 2017
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Leaks are not always perfect, right?
Literally the only accurate aspect of that """"leak"""" that wasn't easily-guessable was the names, and that's not enough to outweigh the multiple things it gets absolutely flat-out wrong.

It's far more likely to be a fake that coincidentally got something right than a legit leak that just so happened to get major, verifiable stuff wrong.
 

Phellps

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Oct 25, 2017
10,800
The only weird thing he called out was the RR. The other stuff is pretty standard (and failed with the new alola forms really bad).
The only legit thing is the RR stuff, the rest is...a pretty easy guess for a 3rd version.
Also they got some stuff really wrong.
Which is, in itself, pretty hard to guess. They even named it and gave details about the context. Molayne as a new member of Elite 4 isn't exactly obvious either.

Not all rumors are 100% accurate, but flat out missing the starters and the region makes that last 4chan one pretty unreliable.
 

MP!

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Oct 30, 2017
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  • Sceptile > Venusaur > Serperior > Torterra > Decidueye > Meganium > Chesnaught
    (shiny Decidueye would be at #2)
  • Delphox > Charizard > Typhlosion > Infernape > Blaziken > Incineroar > Emboar
    (I actually don't like any of them that much from Typhlosion onwards)
  • Empoleon > Primarina > Blastoise > Greninja > Swampert > Samurott > Feraligatr
    (I love Squirtle and Wartortle but Blastoise has always looked so disappointing to me lol)

Overall:
  • Delphox
  • Empoleon
  • Primarina
  • Charizard
  • Sceptile
  • Venusaur
  • Blastoise
  • Serperior
  • Torterra
  • Decidueye
  • Greninja
  • Swampert
  • Meganium
  • Samurott
  • Typhlosion
  • Infernape
  • Blaziken
  • Feraligatr
  • Chesnaught
  • Incineroar
  • Emboar
this has made me realize how disappointing all the grass final evolutions are
 
Feb 26, 2019
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Tijuana
I don't think that both legendaries will be wolves

Curiously I don't either.

It seems too, obvious? And, actually it would be kind of redundant to have the wolves on the cover AND the logo.

In previous games we've had things like symbols representing the mascots in the logos, like HeartGold/SoulSilver, or Sun/Moon, US/UM. X and Y feature just a little resemblence of Xerneas and Yveltal, Let's Go has the tails of Pikachu and Eevee.

But none of them have featured something as obvious or revealing as the head of the Pokémon, and even less, being identical for both versions, only changing the color. They almost kinda look like Lycanroc to me. I feel more inclined to think that that Pokémon whether is a new one or it's Lycanroc / new Lycanroc form, it's an important Pokémon in the story of the game, or more like, in the past history of the game, and it's the ultimate representative of the kingdom or what not, and they just use it for the theme of their armors, weapons, outfits, and any kind of official, royal ornament. Like the eagle being the national bird of the US.

So, or it's the same Pokémon with two forms/armors or they're repeating the Latias/Latios gimmick, but in Latios/Latias case at least they have a few differences, but these wolves look virtually the same. Either option seems kinda lame to me though, so I hope we get two completely different Pokémon for the covers.
 

Phellps

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Oct 25, 2017
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Sun's and Moon's logos are based on their respective legendaries, so I'm expecting SS to do the same.
 

Kyzer

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Oct 25, 2017
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The fact that GameXplain thought to jump to 2 professors labs before assuming one is just a Pokemon trainer school makes me think it's a soft leak like when they "guessed" FF7-10 being announced all at once.

Then again they also thought SuMo trials having types associated with them meant there must be for every type, as if we never had gyms before, so who knows.
 

Dwebble

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Oct 25, 2017
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Did anyone see Lootpots' analysis of the signs in the reveal trailer?

Pixelpar managed to confect a whole new map of the region out of the reflection in the protagonist's wardrobe!

GameXplain are on notice.

 

Salamiaddict

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May 15, 2018
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Did anyone see Lootpots' analysis of the signs in the reveal trailer?

Pixelpar managed to confect a whole new map of the region out of the reflection in the protagonist's wardrobe!

GameXplain are on notice.



Now I love Derrick very much and his analysis. But his Pokémon Sword and Shield Analysis was hardly one. He just stated the obvious and said: Here's a flower, this is a house, does this mean, we could go INTO this house - there is no way of knowing at this point!
LootPots did an actual analysis... great work!
 

ERAsaur

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Oct 25, 2017
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Pixelpar managed to confect a whole new map of the region out of the reflection in the protagonist's wardrobe!

GameXplain are on notice.
After finding Barunda at the edge of that manga panel and the cry order on a table at Game Freak in a Game Informer video, I guess we're going to have to step up our CSI Enhance game again now.

Seriously though, I respect the work that goes into nextgen analysis. There's a lot less time between coming up with a hypothesis and potentially being right or wrong about it than working with the scraps of older games that may never be figured out completely. That and it makes my job easier in a few years when I can go back and look at analysis of earlier builds.
 
Aug 7, 2018
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Did anyone see Lootpots' analysis of the signs in the reveal trailer?

Pixelpar managed to confect a whole new map of the region out of the reflection in the protagonist's wardrobe!

GameXplain are on notice.



My favorite part is the Symbol analysis, I'm almost certain there is a language here. It's not the first time Pokemon has had a language. The writing in the Unova games and Anime, could actually be translated.
https://kotaku.com/deciphering-pokemons-mysterious-language-5986150

So, it's not out of the realm of possibility that Gamefreak has yet again designed a language for the region. Considering there definitely appears to be some "code of conduct" or structure to the writings (Certain Symbol Combinations used on Gyms specific) it leads me to believe there is some sort of translation that could come from it.

Unfortunately way earlier in this thread (well before this video released) people tried to decipher it from the Gamefreak logo being seen in trailer that used the symbols of the region.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/po...nounced-coming-late-2019.102259/post-18426805

I think it was generally decided to be a red hearing and Gamefreak just using symbols that closely resembled their own logo.

Once the game releases or when more symbols are found in the future trailers, I do believe this could be translated and reveal a lot of information.,
 
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Feb 26, 2019
4,273
Tijuana
Did anyone see Lootpots' analysis of the signs in the reveal trailer?

Pixelpar managed to confect a whole new map of the region out of the reflection in the protagonist's wardrobe!

GameXplain are on notice.



Really interesting. I thought most of the signs were just gibberish, but it does seem to have a meaning.

The K from Game Freak is the one that kinda ruins the theory, but they're clearly trying to make them look like English words. There definitely says Galar, League, Region and Station across the different signs.
 
Feb 20, 2019
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The more and more I think about it, the more and more I'm excited for the new pokémon designs. I am absolutely sure I will not be disappointed as a pretty recent pokémon fan
 

Birdie

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Oct 26, 2017
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It's been forever it seems like since the trailer lol.

Incidentally I've been thinking how Hong Kong would make a great region. I want Kowloon!
 

Fendoreo1

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Jan 1, 2019
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If we go by the gen 7 release schedule, we probably won't get another trailer until early May, though I hope they don't wait that long.
 

Mavrick07

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Oct 28, 2017
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Trouble is the in game "language" so far doesn't make much sense because the same characters in one word don't make sens in other words.

For example characters that look like Galar League don't really make sense when you apply them to other words in the game that have the same symbols.

The top words are found on the signs outside the Gym under the new swirl symbol, Galar League seems to fit well enough since the repeating symbols fit with the repeating "E". But the symbol for "A" and "G" and "L" is different in both words.

This is also the case if you take the "Game Freak" words from the background of the Gym. Different symbols for the same English letters. So maybe they have multiple symbols for the same letter, or maybe it's just "simlish". There are 35 or so symbols in the video compared to 26 in the current alphabet.

Although the English Alphabet did used to have 36 letters, so maybe they are basing it off of the old English alphabet.



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Gaardus

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Oct 27, 2017
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Did anyone see Lootpots' analysis of the signs in the reveal trailer?

Pixelpar managed to confect a whole new map of the region out of the reflection in the protagonist's wardrobe!

GameXplain are on notice.


Watching it now, but I think it's weird Pixelpar concludes the blue sign with the shopping bag means something other than "there's a PokeMart in the Pokemon Center" like there has been since Black and White.
 

Aleh

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Oct 27, 2017
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That's a really great analysis. I think the area around the grass stadium is indeed from two different builds of the game now and not from different perspectives.
 
Feb 26, 2019
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I want to see more of the game, just not too many new Pokémon just yet. Unless they're giving us lots of new Pokémon and they'll save enough for the release date (which I doubt).

I think they can perfectly show any new features/looks by using older Pokémon and saving the surprise for later.

Though right now I think it's about time to reveal the mascots, at least.
 

ClickyCal'

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Oct 25, 2017
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I want to see more of the game, just not too many new Pokémon just yet. Unless they're giving us lots of new Pokémon and they'll save enough for the release date (which I doubt).

I think they can perfectly show any new features/looks by using older Pokémon and saving the surprise for later.

Though right now I think it's about time to reveal the mascots, at least.
At this point I'm expecting 60-70 brand new pokemon again, and we will see like 50-60 of those pre-launch.
 

Serebii

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Oct 24, 2017
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I'm just thinking because it's a new gen....with it being the first in hd, so many resources had to go to the game itself.
Don't forget that resources for Gen 6 and 7 games were done to be futureproofed

Plus resources to make models etc. are different to the Pokémon designing.
 

N75

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Oct 25, 2017
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Even for XY, the decision to include less Pokemon seems to have been intentional and not limitational if you factor in the Megas. If you combine them together you get around 100, which is the same as Gen 2 and very close to Gen 4.

Oddly enough, the recent Pokemon games have had noticeably more designers than the previous ones. GF has started to reach out to TCG artists and other freelancers in the last few years.
 
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Serebii

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Even for XY, the decision to include less Pokemon seemed to have been intentional and not limitational if you factor in the Megas. If you combine them together you get around 100, which is the same as Gen 2 and very close to Gen 4.

Oddly enough, the recent Pokemon games have had noticeably more designers than the previous ones. GF has started to reach out to TCG artists and other freelancers in the last few years.
Yep, as I have been saying for years, despite the fandom not wanting to count them, Game Freak count new Mega Evolutions and alternate forms as New Pokémon
Do we know if the gameplay is more traditional yet?
We do and it is :)
 

Quinton

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Oct 25, 2017
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Even for XY, the decision to include less Pokemon seemed to have been intentional and not limitational if you factor in the Megas. If you combine them together you get around 100, which is the same as Gen 2 and very close to Gen 4.

Oddly enough, the recent Pokemon games have had noticeably more designers than the previous ones. GF has started to reach out to TCG artists and other freelancers in the last few years.

Yeah. And honestly I've been counting the Megas as taking up slots and I'm sure I'll feel similarly about the Alolan Forms once I get to them. I hadn't even realized until following along with these threads that so many fans do not.
 

BrutalBubble

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Feb 21, 2019
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Leaks are not always perfect, right?

No, a true leak needs to be almost perfect. Every mistake can discredit it completely, there is no "but the rest was true, so he did know things" but rather a "but the rest was true so he got a big lucky shot, but probably never touched the game". The last one is probably the case by many "unreliable" leakers who sometimes get things wrong and sometimes right, I bet they're just good at gambling.
 

BrutalBubble

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I'm just thinking because it's a new gen....with it being the first in hd, so many resources had to go to the game itself.

What let's you think this? There is no difference in HD or not HD, just maybe a new PBR usage for the graphics which doesn't change much, rather makes creating assets and textures a little bit easier because of the fixed values you get from realworld materials. Already existent Pokemon stay the same maybe upscaled and polished textures, but that could be done by an intern.
 

ILikeFeet

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Oct 25, 2017
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What let's you think this? There is no difference in HD or not HD, just maybe a new PBR usage for the graphics which doesn't change much, rather makes creating assets and textures a little bit easier because of the fixed values you get from realworld materials. Already existent Pokemon stay the same maybe upscaled and polished textures, but that could be done by an intern.
I don't think this game even uses a physically based pipeline. as for the pokemon, they have a master texture file. there's no need to upscale anything

what I'm weirded out is that they have walk/runs for all pokemon and they're seemingly not being used. we know there are some pokemon in the overworld but to what extent is unknown. and they definitely won't have all of them as NPCs
 

Birdie

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Generation V introduced animated sprites for every Pokemon and still managed to give us 156 new Pokemon, so I don't think graphical leap = less Pokemon necessarily.

Speaking of Generation V, Birdie's hot-take of the day---they should introduce new mid-form evolutions for Rufflet and Vullaby to "fix" the crazy level gap and the fact there's a pretty big design and stat leap. Honestly, I'd love to see the PokeDex a mix of New Pokemon, Regional Variants for Gen I-IV, and new evolutions/baby Pokemon for Gen V-VII since they never got that.

Fuck Eviolite.
 

Leo

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Oct 27, 2017
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Baby Pokémon are useless, but I'm all in for new evolutions.

I always thought babies should have exclusive moves or something like that, correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I know, they have no purpose in the game.
 

mnk

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Nov 11, 2017
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Generation V introduced animated sprites for every Pokemon and still managed to give us 156 new Pokemon, so I don't think graphical leap = less Pokemon necessarily.

Speaking of Generation V, Birdie's hot-take of the day---they should introduce new mid-form evolutions for Rufflet and Vullaby to "fix" the crazy level gap and the fact there's a pretty big design and stat leap. Honestly, I'd love to see the PokeDex a mix of New Pokemon, Regional Variants for Gen I-IV, and new evolutions/baby Pokemon for Gen V-VII since they never got that.

Fuck Eviolite.
I think they'd sooner lower the evolution level for those lines than retcon in middle evolutions.

Baby Pokémon are useless, but I'm all in for new evolutions.

I always thought babies should have exclusive moves or something like that, correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I know, they have no purpose in the game.
They generally do have exclusive egg or level up moves, but I can't really think of any notable ones off hand.
 
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Birdie

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No, Baby Pokemon do have exclusive moves.

XY had a gimmick where Wild Baby Pokemon had 3 perfect IVs, but that was removed in Generation VI probably because the S.O.S. system had the Baby Pokemon call their evolved forms with better IVs.

I think they'd sooner lower the evolution level for those lines than retcon in middle evolutions.
Yeah, I just think it'd actually work for those two lines because visually they almost look like a 3-stage bird line without the middle.

I really would like a Generation to eventually fix the messiness of the evolution system---change the Pokemon who evolve with a specific, one-use item to Level Up to make it easier (Generation IV evolutions looking at you!), make Gen III and Gen IV Baby Pokemon breedable by default without an Incense, etc. They did it with Milotic so I don't see why not as it wouldn't mess up trading with previous games.
 

Charlie0108

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No, Baby Pokemon do have exclusive moves.

XY had a gimmick where Wild Baby Pokemon had 3 perfect IVs, but that was removed in Generation VI probably because the S.O.S. system had the Baby Pokemon call their evolved forms with better IVs.


Yeah, I just think it'd actually work for those two lines because visually they almost look like a 3-stage bird line without the middle.

I really would like a Generation to eventually fix the messiness of the evolution system---change the Pokemon who evolve with a specific, one-use item to Level Up to make it easier (Generation IV evolutions looking at you!), make Gen III and Gen IV Baby Pokemon breedable by default without an Incense, etc. They did it with Milotic so I don't see why not as it wouldn't mess up trading with previous games.
I don't know what they were thinking with the Gen V evolution levels. They badly need to be retconned. Mienfoo has a BST of 350 with only 85 attack and doesn't evolve until level 50 (!!). You have to get Elgyem to level 42 before you get your 485 BST Beheeyem. Pawniard has 340 BST and doesn't evolve until level 52 (!!!!!). I'm not exaggerating when I say these Pokemon are unplayable.
 

ArchedThunder

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No, Baby Pokemon do have exclusive moves.

XY had a gimmick where Wild Baby Pokemon had 3 perfect IVs, but that was removed in Generation VI probably because the S.O.S. system had the Baby Pokemon call their evolved forms with better IVs.


Yeah, I just think it'd actually work for those two lines because visually they almost look like a 3-stage bird line without the middle.

I really would like a Generation to eventually fix the messiness of the evolution system---change the Pokemon who evolve with a specific, one-use item to Level Up to make it easier (Generation IV evolutions looking at you!), make Gen III and Gen IV Baby Pokemon breedable by default without an Incense, etc. They did it with Milotic so I don't see why not as it wouldn't mess up trading with previous games.
Make Leafeon and Glaceon Leaf and Ice Stone evolutions as well.
 

mnk

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Nov 11, 2017
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I don't know what they were thinking with the Gen V evolution levels. They badly need to be retconned. Mienfoo has a BST of 350 with only 85 attack and doesn't evolve until level 50 (!!). You have to get Elgyem to level 42 before you get your 485 BST Beheeyem. Pawniard has 340 BST and doesn't evolve until level 52 (!!!!!). I'm not exaggerating when I say these Pokemon are unplayable.
Noibat wishes it was as lucky as Mienfoo or Pawniard. 245 BST, 45 Sp. Attack, doesn't evolve until level 48. They made it available on the first island in US/UM. Using it must've been torture.
 

Leo

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Oct 27, 2017
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Sometimes it feels like GF goes out of their way to make us not use new Pokemon.

And trading evolution has always been such a stupid concept, it needs to go, but it won't. Because of it, I have never and will never use some of my favorite Pokemon in a playthrough.
 

KillstealWolf

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Oct 27, 2017
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I don't know what they were thinking with the Gen V evolution levels. They badly need to be retconned. Mienfoo has a BST of 350 with only 85 attack and doesn't evolve until level 50 (!!). You have to get Elgyem to level 42 before you get your 485 BST Beheeyem. Pawniard has 340 BST and doesn't evolve until level 52 (!!!!!). I'm not exaggerating when I say these Pokemon are unplayable.

Some mons sorta get screwed over when in the first games, they want an evolution for it, but decide you can only catch the pokemon in the late game to begin with so they give it really high evolution levels because of it.

Noibat had this issue in Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon, cool you can get one as early as Verdant Cavern around level 10. Sucks hard when you learn that you need to get it to Level 48 for it to evolve (That's basically after the Lusamine Fight).

That and Noibat's level up movelist sorta sucks, could have at least moved Super Fang up earlier so it's got something going for it, but you get that at Level 43.

Just look at the moveset you have to work with until then.

https://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/714.shtml

Yeah, I love running Air Cutter as my primary damage move for the whole game, sounds terrific.
 

BrutalBubble

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Feb 21, 2019
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I don't think this game even uses a physically based pipeline. as for the pokemon, they have a master texture file. there's no need to upscale anything

what I'm weirded out is that they have walk/runs for all pokemon and they're seemingly not being used. we know there are some pokemon in the overworld but to what extent is unknown. and they definitely won't have all of them as NPCs

The reflections in the trailer let me hope, though yeah it's probably rather the old spec gloss workflow. PBR is just to new for a conservative developer like Gamefreak.