Pokémon Sword and Shield Expansion Passes announced. 'Isle of Armor' coming June 2020 and 'The Crown Tundra' Fall 2020 (New 'mons, new areas) - US$30

[Illusion]

So one question I have, is when Black & White eventually get remade. Will they also remake Black & White 2 immediately after? Or will they release 2 as a DLC sequel/expansion.

It's hard trying to imagine a DLC that just adds the other portion of Unova, the gym leaders, and entirely different areas to the map.

I can see that they might differentiate each game by making gym leaders version exclusive, or even which town becomes your starting town and you're path/progression through Unova is different depending on your game version. Then just make BW2 storyline in a shorten post game version. With DLC continuing the story to a BW3 showcasing the true Dragon or something like that. :/

DLC for remakes in general is a interesting conversation alone.

 

[ArchedThunder]

Huh, I thought the southern part of Galar was already based on Scotland, I guess it only has some of the landmass though. Either way, with Galar being the the UK but upside down I guess that means the Crown Tundra is probably south of the starting area of the main game, which makes sense since they map cuts off without showing the ocean at the bottom.
I really hope they find a way to fit Northern Ireland into SwSh, maybe that could be where the new challenges pop up after completing the main game and both DLCs.

So one question I have, is when Black & White eventually get remade. Will they also remake Black & White 2 immediately after? Or will they release 2 as a DLC sequel/expansion.

It's hard trying to imagine a DLC that just adds the other portion of Unova, the gym leaders, and entirely different areas to the map.

I can see that they might differentiate each game by making gym leaders version exclusive, or even which town becomes your starting town and you're path/progression through Unova is different depending on your game version. Then just make BW2 storyline in a shorten post game version. With DLC continuing the story to a BW3 showcasing the true Dragon or something like that. :/

DLC for remakes in general is a interesting conversation alone.

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Well it will be a different universe, I imagine they'll just do a brand new post game and either in that or DLC take elements of B2W2's story and map edits, but have it take place directly after BW with the player character of BW instead of B2W2. Also I think it's very likely it includes the original dragon. That'd be a pretty great selling point for a DLC.

 

[Rand a. Thor]

Huh, I thought the southern part of Galar was already based on Scotland, I guess it only has some of the landmass though. Either way, with Galar being the the UK but upside down I guess that means the Crown Tundra is probably south of the starting area of the main game, which makes sense since they map cuts off without showing the ocean at the bottom.
I really hope they find a way to fit Northern Ireland into SwSh, maybe that could be where the new challenges pop up after completing the main game and both DLCs.

Well it will be a different universe, I imagine they'll just do a brand new post game and either in that or DLC take elements of B2W2's story and map edits, but have it take place directly after BW with the player character of BW instead of B2W2. Also I think it's very likely it includes the original dragon. That'd be a pretty great selling point for a DLC.

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Note in the reveal trailer how they pan the camera over the map. It goes east for the IoA and South for the CT, so it made sense that they would likely be based on the areas to the west and north of England irl. The isle of Man is not something I expected honestly and thought Ireland in the first place, so its gonna be interesting if they do get there eventually how its handled. I would think like how the Crown Tundra is likely reached with a train expansion from Wedgehurst there will be either a boat or a new surf route from Spikemuth that takes you to the IoA. Its also funny how now the region is gonna have 2 giant Ice Areas both in its north and due south, I really wanna know now where the hell Kalos fits into the concept of the world being near parallel to ours. Unless in the Pokemon World England is to the south of mainland Europe and the whole world flipped, somehow.

As for BW remakes and DLC, I could see the reverse. They just straight up make Black and White 3 with the OG Dragon and have a Torna like prequel DLC for BW and B2W2.

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[ILikeFeet]

I doubt the remakes will get DLC

 

[ArchedThunder]

As for BW remakes and DLC, I could see the reverse. They just straight up make Black and White 3 with the OG Dragon and have a Torna like prequel DLC for BW and B2W2.

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I wouldn't say that's impossible, Game Freak in recent years loves doing different things, but I dunno, doing B3W3 instead of BW remakes just feels odd to me.

I doubt the remakes will get DLC

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People said the same thing about the main series in general for years. In the past 10-ish years Game Freak has been doing lots of things nobody ever thought they'd do and in the last few years in particular they've been doing a lot of that. I don't think there is any way to say with certainty that Game Freak won't do DLC for remakes, especially since they treat remakes pretty similarly to any other main series game.

 

[Aleh]

I doubt the remakes will get DLC

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They said they want adventures to last throughout the year and that it's something they hope to achieve going forward, so it would make sense to support all new games with DLC, and in terms of timing having DLC years in between each major game is the best option they have to both extend sales, make players happy, and have resources to properly develop everything

 

[Rand a. Thor]

DLC for remakes would be cool in theory. I know people hate going back to Kanto, but imagine a remake of it with DLC Sevii Islands greatly expanded or a North Kanto for the bottom half of Tohoku, or a Johto Remake expanding on the two areas west of it. Like I can see DP remakes easily being platinum in the base game with a new Arceus centered DLC going to North Tohoku in the south with a fully explorable mountain featuring the Sinjoh Ruins.

 

[Soran]

So this traduction of the characters notes make obvious that Galarian Zapdos is gonna be part fighting.

 

[ILikeFeet]

People said the same thing about the main series in general for years. In the past 10-ish years Game Freak has been doing lots of things nobody ever thought they'd do and in the last few years in particular they've been doing a lot of that. I don't think there is any way to say with certainty that Game Freak won't do DLC for remakes, especially since they treat remakes pretty similarly to any other main series game.

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Still doesn't change that I don't think remakes will get DLC

They said they want adventures to last throughout the year and that it's something they hope to achieve going forward, so it would make sense to support all new games with DLC, and in terms of timing having DLC years in between each major game is the best option they have to both extend sales, make players happy, and have resources to properly develop everything

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I see the remakes as a way to pad the time between the main games. Though now that GF are making HD games, it'll be hard to say what form the remakes will take. I still think they should make Sinnoh a Let's Go game rather than a game in the style of SS

 

[Rand a. Thor]

Still doesn't change that I don't think remakes will get DLC


I see the remakes as a way to pad the time between the main games. Though now that GF are making HD games, it'll be hard to say what form the remakes will take. I still think they should make Sinnoh a Let's Go game rather than a game in the style of SS

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If anything Sinnoh is now more likely than ever to get remakes in the style of Gen 8. The co-op Raid Den underground concept, new Regis that will likely tie into Regigigas next year, the story choice portion of Isle of Armor that could be utilized for a Giratina post league story, it sounds a lot like ideas they came up with for the remakes being tested in the DLCs before fully fleshing em out in the next games.

 

[kami_sama]

So this traduction of the characters notes make obvious that Galarian Zapdos is gonna be part fighting.

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And that Galarian Articuno is Psychic.

 

[Jessie]

I think every game they release going forward will have DLC. They've established that they can patch in new Pokémon whenever they want, which frees up a lot of pressure from the Pokémon Company.

 

[ArchedThunder]

While I think We'll see more Let's Go games in the future I don't think they will completely replace remakes. For example we could get a remake of Gen 4 this Gen that is similar to SwSh, next Gen we could get Let's Go Johto and then the Gen following that we'd get Gen 5 remakes.

I think every game they release going forward will have DLC. They've established that they can patch in new Pokémon whenever they want, which frees up a lot of pressure from the Pokémon Company.

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I think how well the DLC does will really decide things. If the DLC makes them a lot of money I don't see any reason why they wouldn't do DLC for remakes. Plus as it has been mentioned before DLC can allow generations to last longer while still having plenty of new content for all the stuff surrounding the games. With the cost and time it takes to make HD games they could really benefit from longer generations.

 

[Trakan]

I'm wondering how the DLC is going to scale. I'm sure a lot of people have leveled up their entire team to level 100 with the xp candies. I guess it would be best if it just scaled to the highest Pokemon in your party, but I don't see them doing that.

 

[Serebii]

I'm wondering how the DLC is going to scale. I'm sure a lot of people have leveled up their entire team to level 100 with the xp candies. I guess it would be best if it just scaled to the highest Pokemon in your party, but I don't see them doing that.

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My guess is that if you've finished, you get the Kubfu at the start and can't use anything else for the time being

 

[Reinhardt Schneider]

My guess is that if you've finished, you get the Kubfu at the start and can't use anything else for the time being

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That sounds like a good idea for me

 

[ArchedThunder]

My guess is that if you've finished, you get the Kubfu at the start and can't use anything else for the time being

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Hmm, I could see that being the case for Armor since the story revolves around you training with Kubfu, but for Crown I think automatic level scaling with the lowest possible level that enemy trainer Pokemon can be being around 70 or so makes the most sense.

 

[WrenchNinja]

If anything Sinnoh is now more likely than ever to get remakes in the style of Gen 8. The co-op Raid Den underground concept, new Regis that will likely tie into Regigigas next year, the story choice portion of Isle of Armor that could be utilized for a Giratina post league story, it sounds a lot like ideas they came up with for the remakes being tested in the DLCs before fully fleshing em out in the next games.

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never noticed it till now but the raid dens do kind of remind me of the distortion world

 

[Trakan]

My guess is that if you've finished, you get the Kubfu at the start and can't use anything else for the time being

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I'd be okay with that but one of the main selling points of the DLC is getting your old favorites to use again so I can't see them doing that for long anyway.

 

[hat_hair]

Just introduce Negative EXP Candy, ez.

As a more serious suggestion, they could make all the trainer battles auto-level everyone to 50 (or whatever level is appropriate).

 

[Rand a. Thor]

never noticed it till now but the raid dens do kind of remind me of the distortion world

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I hadn't even made that connection until now, huh. I've considered Eternatus being a distorted Dialga before, and if the max raid dens are connected to the distortion world, there is room there for some potentially amazing story synergy in a way they never achieved for the Megas connection between Kalos and Hoenn.

 

[Omegamon]

I feel like GF will still release a third version, which would be Sword and Shield+DLC

 

[Phellps]

Just introduce Negative EXP Candy, ez.

As a more serious suggestion, they could make all the trainer battles auto-level everyone to 50 (or whatever level is appropriate).

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They'd want to keep "Overlevel your team so you can beat this NPC" as an option for kids and beginners. I think it's likely that they will just treat this as a new adventure and therefore you have to start from scratch: you get Kubfu as your starter and can catch new Pokémon from the island, but everything else you had stays in mainland Galar until you've beaten the expansion.

 

[Bardoon]

I would think like how the Crown Tundra is likely reached with a train expansion from Wedgehurst there will be either a boat or a new surf route from Spikemuth that takes you to the IoA.

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We take a train to the Isle of Armor with a special pass, that's how Avery/Klara get there with the Slowpoke event they added the other day. I think it will be the same for Crown Tundra, too.

 

[Aleh]

Also to me it's crazy how much better looking Gigantamax gen 1 starters are compared to their mega evolutions. The latter felt like "add spikes/extra stuff" while the former are much more original

 

[brinstar]

If anything Sinnoh is now more likely than ever to get remakes in the style of Gen 8. The co-op Raid Den underground concept, new Regis that will likely tie into Regigigas next year, the story choice portion of Isle of Armor that could be utilized for a Giratina post league story, it sounds a lot like ideas they came up with for the remakes being tested in the DLCs before fully fleshing em out in the next games.

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It's the opposite for me, the Gen 4 legendaries appearing in the DLC makes me think there aren't going to be Gen 4 remakes in Gen 8

 

[Moltres006]

Jim Sterling just posted a video about this.......so if a thread gets made, you guys should probably stay away from it.

 

[Deleted member 4532]

It's the opposite for me, the Gen 4 legendaries appearing in the DLC makes me think there aren't going to be Gen 4 remakes in Gen 8

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That's how I feel.

 

[Trakan]

Also to me it's crazy how much better looking Gigantamax gen 1 starters are compared to their mega evolutions. The latter felt like "add spikes/extra stuff" while the former are much more original

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Both Mega Charizards look way cooler than the Gigantamax. I'll give you Blastoise and Venusaur though.

 

[Xita]

Jim Sterling just posted a video about this.......so if a thread gets made, you guys should probably stay away from it.

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Seems odd to be making a video about Pokemon's questionable business practices now when there was so much more discussion about them last year before and shortly after SwSh came out.

 

[Aleh]

Jim Sterling just posted a video about this.......so if a thread gets made, you guys should probably stay away from it.

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Just watched it. He spends half of the video rightfully criticizing people mad at the DLC for not making any sense, and the other half to weirdly complain about Pokémon using dual versions as if you're supposed to buy both. What a weird person.

 

[Deleted member 51691]

Just watched it. He spends half of the video rightfully criticizing people mad at the DLC for not making any sense, and the other half to weirdly complain about Pokémon using dual versions as if you're supposed to buy both. What a weird person.

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I don't understand him but his online persona is entertaining

 

[PokémonSpears]

Both Mega Charizards look way cooler than the Gigantamax. I'll give you Blastoise and Venusaur though.

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Mega Gengar is also better than Gigantamax

 

[Slamtastic]

Also to me it's crazy how much better looking Gigantamax gen 1 starters are compared to their mega evolutions. The latter felt like "add spikes/extra stuff" while the former are much more original

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Charizard X is still the GOAT, but you're right for Y and Venasaur/Blastoise.

 

[Disclaimer]

Just watched it. He spends half of the video rightfully criticizing people mad at the DLC for not making any sense, and the other half to weirdly complain about Pokémon using dual versions as if you're supposed to buy both. What a weird person.

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You're not "supposed to buy both," but likewise it would be naive to pretend it hasn't always been a deliberate monetization strategy because there are inevitably people who will buy both.

Jim's completely correct that any other company—particularly known manipulative ones such as EA or Activision—would be crucified for selling two simultaneous versions of the same game at full price with almost nothing differentiating them beyond collector material, and that Pokemon skates by grandfathered in by an ardent fanbase.

 

[Rand a. Thor]

We take a train to the Isle of Armor with a special pass, that's how Avery/Klara get there with the Slowpoke event they added the other day. I think it will be the same for Crown Tundra, too.

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Huh didn't know that. Cool that the trains are being used in an interesting way. I wonder if they might revive the Battle Subway in these updates.

Also to me it's crazy how much better looking Gigantamax gen 1 starters are compared to their mega evolutions. The latter felt like "add spikes/extra stuff" while the former are much more original

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Blastoise sure, but both Mega Charizard Y and Venusaur are amazing designs. Especially Mega venusaur, I love the overgrown look it has

It's the opposite for me, the Gen 4 legendaries appearing in the DLC makes me think there aren't going to be Gen 4 remakes in Gen 8

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I have my theories on that but I can't fully write them down yet.

 

[ArchedThunder]

It's the opposite for me, the Gen 4 legendaries appearing in the DLC makes me think there aren't going to be Gen 4 remakes in Gen 8

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They are using this as an excuse to bring all the Legendaries back, it'd be too obvious if the only ones conveniently missing were the Gen 4 ones.

 

[brinstar]

They are using this as an excuse to bring all the Legendaries back, it'd be too obvious if the only ones conveniently missing were the Gen 4 ones.

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Yeah, cause usually the "all the legendaries are back!" bonanza happens at the end of the generation. I'm fully open to being wrong here of course-- heck knows we're in uncharted territory now lol--but I don't think they're in the pipeline.

 

[PokémonSpears]

I still think the Diamond and Pearl remakes are overdue, so I wouldn't rule out the possibility of them coming out this generation.

We would have to see how many of the Pokémon missing from the SwSh expansions belong to the Sinnoh Pokédex, and that would hint a bit more towards a Sinnoh DLC to come along the remakes (though I think it's vastly covered with the current available Pokémon? has someone checked?)

In any case, even if they make the legendaries available, they can always introduce new forms / Gigantamax or whatever to give an excuse for the remakes. Heck, even going for the wild dreams route, they could even introduce "Sinnohnian" forms / evolutions for Pokémon from gens V - VIII. We know by now they are perfectly fine with introducing new Pokémon mid-generation, so why not?

I'm not holding my breath for anything, at least anything good, but after what they've done recently, they've opened the door to an endless range of possibilities for the future.

Edit: so I did it myself:

Spoiler: Pokémon that we would get from Sinnoh

Already in Galar Confirmed in Expansion

1. Turtwig
2. Grotle
3. Torterra
4. Chimchar
5. Monferno
6. Infernape
7. Piplup
8. Prinplup
9. Empoleon
10. Starly
11. Staravia
12. Staraptor
13. Bidoof
14. Bibarel
15. Kricketot
16. Kricketune
17. Shinx
18. Luxio
19. Luxray
20. Abra
21. Kadabra
22. Alakazam
23. Magikarp
24. Gyarados
25. Budew
26. Roselia
27. Roserade
28. Zubat
29. Golbat
30. Crobat
31. Geodude
32. Graveler
33. Golem
34. Onix
35. Steelix
36. Cranidos
37. Rampardos
38. Shieldon
39. Bastiodon
40. Machop
41. Machoke
42. Machamp
43. Psyduck (?)
44. Golduck (?)
45. Burmy
46. Wormadam
47. Mothim
48. Wurmple
49. Silcoon
50. Beautifly
51. Cascoon
52. Dustox
53. Combee
54. Vespiquen
55. Pachirisu
56. Buizel
57. Floatzel
58. Cherubi
59. Cherrim
60. Shellos
61. Gastrodon
62. Heracross
63. Aipom
64. Ambipom
65. Drifloon
66. Drifblim
67. Buneary
68. Lopunny
69. Gastly
70. Haunter
71. Gengar
72. Misdreavus
73. Mismagius
74. Murkrow
75. Honchkrow
76. Glameow
77. Purugly
78. Goldeen
79. Seaking
80. Barboach
81. Whiscash
82. Chingling
83. Chimecho
84. Stunky
85. Skuntank
86. Meditite
87. Medicham
88. Bronzor
89. Bronzong
90. Ponyta
91. Rapidash
92. Bonsly
93. Sudowoodo
94. Mime Jr.
95. Mr. Mime
96. Happiny
97. Chansey
98. Blissey
99. Cleffa
100. Clefairy
101. Clefable
102. Chatot
103. Pichu
104. Pikachu
105. Raichu
106. Hoothoot
107. Noctowl
108. Spiritomb
109. Gible
110. Gabite
111. Garchomp
112. Munchlax
113. Snorlax
114. Unown
115. Riolu
116. Lucario
117. Wooper
118. Quagsire
119. Wingull
120. Pelipper
121. Girafarig
122. Hippopotas
123. Hippowdon
124. Azurill
125. Marill
126. Azumarill
127. Skorupi
128. Drapion
129. Croagunk
130. Toxicroak
131. Carnivine
132. Remoraid
133. Octillery
134. Finneon
135. Lumineon
136. Tentacool
137. Tentacruel
138. Feebas
139. Milotic
140. Mantyke
141. Mantine
142. Snover
143. Abomasnow
144. Sneasel
145. Weavile
146. Uxie
147. Mesprit
148. Azelf
149. Dialga
150. Palkia
151. Manaphy
     
     if they include Platinum:
152. Rotom
153. Gligar
154. Gliscor
155. Nosepass
156. Probopass
157. Ralts
158. Kirlia
159. Gardevoir
160. Gallade
161. Lickitung
162. Lickilicky
163. Eeevee (+ Sylveon?)
164. Vaporeon
165. Jolteon
166. Flareon
167. Espeon
168. Umbreon
169. Leafeon
170. Glaceon
171. Swablu
172. Altaria
173. Togepi
174. Togetic
175. Togekiss
176. Houndour
177. Houndoom
178. Magnemite
179. Magneton
180. Magnezone
181. Tangela
182. Tangrowth
183. Yanma
184. Yanmega
185. Tropius
186. Rhyhorn
187. Rhydon
188. Rhyperior
189. Duskull
190. Dusclops
191. Dusknoir
192. Porygon
193. Porygon2
194. Porygon-Z
195. Scyther
196. Scizor
197. Elekid
198. Electabuzz
199. Electivire
200. Magby
201. Magmar
202. Magmortar
203. Swinub
204. Piloswine
205. Mamoswine
206. Snorunt
207. Glalie
208. Froslass
209. Absol
210. Giratina

There's the legendary missing from the Sinnoh dex:

• Heatran
• Regigigas
• Cresselia
• Phione
• Darkrai
• Shaymin
• Arceus

Plus non-Sinnoh Pokémon obtainable through PokéRadar:

• Nidoran♀
• Nidorina
• Nidoqueen
• Nidoran♂
• Nidorino
• Nidoking
• Venonat
• Venomoth
• Mankey
• Primeape
• Slowpoke
• Slowbro
• Grimer
• Muk
• Tauros
• Ditto
• Sentret
• Furret
• Togepi (included in Platinum)
• Togetic (Platinum)
• Togekiss (Platinum)
• Mareep
• Flaaffy
• Ampharos
• Hoppip
• Skiploom
• Jumpluff
• Sunkern
• Sunflora
• Slowking
• Wobbuffet
• Wynaut
• Houndour (Platinum)
• Houndoom (Platinum)
• Stantler
• Smeargle
• Tyrogue
• Hitmontop
• Hitmonlee
• Hitmonchan
• Miltank
• Larvitar
• Pupitar
• Tyranitar
• Poochyena
• Mightyena
• Taillow
• Swellow
• Ralts (Platinum)
• Kirlia (Platinum)
• Gardevoir (Platinum)
• Gallade (Platinum)
• Nincada
• Ninjask
• Shedinja
• Whismur
• Loudred
• Exploud
• Aron
• Lairon
• Aggron
• Torkoal
• Trapinch
• Vibrava
• Flygon
• Swablu (Platinum)
• Altaria (Platinum)
• Baltoy
• Claydol
• Kecleon
• Duskull (Platinum)
• Dusclops (Platinum)
• Dusknoir (Platinum)
• Snorunt (Platinum)
• Glalie (Platinum)
• Froslass (Platinum)
• Bagon
• Shelgon
• Salamence

or in Swarms:

• Doduo
• Dodrio
• Zigzagoon
• Linoone
• Cubone
• Marowak
• Nosepass (Platinum)
• Probopass (Platinum)
• Phanpy
• Donphan
• Dunsparce
• Snubbull
• Granbull
• Absol (Platinum)
• Spoink
• Grumpig
• Drowzee
• Hypno
• Delibird
• Swinub (Platinum)
• Piloswine (Platinum)
• Mamoswine (Platinum)
• Voltorb
• Electrode
• Farfetch'd
• Skitty
• Delcatty
• Natu
• Xatu
• Makuhita
• Hariyama
• Krabby
• Kingler
• Spinda
• Beldum
• Metang
• Metagross
• Pidgey
• Pidgeotto
• Pidgeot
• Corsola
• Surskit
• Masquerain
• Smoochum
• Jynx
• Lickitung (Platinum)
• Lickilicky (Platinum)
• Magnemite (Platinum)
• Magneton (Platinum)
• Magnezone (Platinum)
• Electrike
• Manectric
• Slakoth
• Vigoroth
• Slaking

in the Mansion:

• Jigglypuff
• Wigglytuff
• Igglybuff
• Plusle
• Minun
• Castform

GBA insertion (I don't know how that would work now):

• Seedot
• Nuzleaf
• Shiftry
• Mawile
• Zangoose
• Solrock
• Lotad
• Lombre
• Ludicolo
• Sableye
• Seviper
• Lunatone
• Pineco
• Forretress
• Gligar (Platinum)
• Gliscor (Platinum)
• Shuckle
• Teddiursa
• Ursaring
• Caterpie
• Metapod
• Butterfree
• Ekans
• Arbok
• Growlithe
• Arcanine
• Elekid (Platinum)
• Electabuzz (Platinum)
• Electivire (Platinum)
• Weedle
• Kakuna
• Beedrill
• Sandshrew
• Sandslash
• Vulpix
• Ninetales
• Magby (Platinum)
• Magmar (Platinum)
• Magmortar (Platinum)

Plus other obtainable Pokémon:

• Rattata
• Raticate
• Spearow
• Fearow
• Paras
• Parasect
• Poliwag
• Poliwhirl
• Poliwrath
• Bellsprout
• Weepinbell
• Victreebel
• Seel
• Dewgong
• Exeggcute
• Exeggutor
• Kangaskhan
• Horsea
• Seadra
• Staryu
• Starmie
• Pinsir
• Omanyte
• Omastar
• Kabuto
• Kabutops
• Aerodactyl
• Dratini
• Dragonair
• Dragonite
• Ledyba
• Ledian
• Spinarak
• Ariados
• Slugma
• Magcargo
• Kingdra
• Shroomish
• Breloom
• Volbeat
• Illumise
• Gulpin
• Swalot
• Carvanha
• Sharpedo
• Numel
• Camerupt
• Cacnea
• Cacturne
• Lileep
• Cradily
• Anorith
• Armaldo
• Shuppet
• Banette
• Spheal
• Sealeo
• Walrein
• Clamperl
• Huntail
• Gorebyss
• Relicanth
• Luvdisc

 

[ArchedThunder]

Yeah, cause usually the "all the legendaries are back!" bonanza happens at the end of the generation. I'm fully open to being wrong here of course-- heck knows we're in uncharted territory now lol--but I don't think they're in the pipeline.

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This is a little different because these Pokemon weren't in the data to begin with.

 

[Amnixia]

I feel like GF will still release a third version, which would be Sword and Shield+DLC

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Dont think "complete" editions count as a third version.

 

[Richietto]

I went to buy it on the eshop and are they really selling 2 different versions of the DLC for both games??? Come the fuck on.

Also kinda hate they will be adding a bunch of Legendarys. How many of the 200 Pokemon will be Legendary? What I liked about SwSh was the lack of Legendary Pokemon.

 

[ArchedThunder]

I still think the Diamond and Pearl remakes are overdue, so I wouldn't rule out the possibility of them coming out this generation.

We would have to see how many of the Pokémon missing from the SwSh expansions belong to the Sinnoh Pokédex, and that would hint a bit more towards a Sinnoh DLC to come along the remakes (though I think it's vastly covered with the current available Pokémon? has someone checked?)

In any case, even if they make the legendaries available, they can always introduce new forms / Gigantamax or whatever to give an excuse for the remakes. Heck, even going for the wild dreams route, they could even introduce "Sinnohnian" forms / evolutions for Pokémon from gens V - VIII. We know by now they are perfectly fine with introducing new Pokémon mid-generation, so why not?

I'm not holding my breath for anything, at least anything good, but after what they've done recently, they've opened the door to an endless range of possibilities for the future.

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Yeah, that's another thing to consider, Dialga, Palkia and Giratina will undoubtedly get new forms in the remakes.

 

[Arynio]

Nah I can't wrap my head around Calyrex.

It's just so...so bizarre.

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Try wrapping your arms around his head.

 

[Arynio]

No.

It seems that The Isle of Armor expansion will allow you to help some of the Pokémon traveling with you gain the ability to Gigantamax. This has led to the discovery of the Gigantamax forms for Rillaboom, Cinderace, and Inteleon, the Evolutions of the three Pokémon you choose from for your first partner Pokémon in the Galar region.

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It would be great if this applied to hatched babies, but I guess that would go against the concept of raids.

 

[asmith906]

I'm wondering how the DLC is going to scale. I'm sure a lot of people have leveled up their entire team to level 100 with the xp candies. I guess it would be best if it just scaled to the highest Pokemon in your party, but I don't see them doing that.

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I'm guessing since wild area pokemon after you beat the game start at level 60 DLC would need to start trainers at 60-70. Or have a way that you lose access to your pokemon for part of the DLC so you are forced to use the new pokemon.

 

[Trakan]

I'm guessing since wild area pokemon after you beat the game start at level 60 DLC would need to start trainers at 60-70. Or have a way that you lose access to your pokemon for part of the DLC so you are forced to use the new pokemon.

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Well they're going to let you Gigantamax your original starter and not catch a new one so that's what makes me wonder.

 

[Jessie]

You can start the new DLC when you first enter the wild area, so I'm guessing it'll have a similar balance. Low level Pokémon in the front, high level Pokémon in the back, Level 60 Pokémon in postgame.

I suspect the trainer battles will involve Kubfu, so you may be forced to use Level 20 Pokémon or whatever at the dojo.

 

[Rand a. Thor]

It's the opposite for me, the Gen 4 legendaries appearing in the DLC makes me think there aren't going to be Gen 4 remakes in Gen 8

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The theory I mentioned earlier is that I think DP remakes will feature Eternatus and a counterpart for it, and both will have origin formes much like Giratina. I know it sounds strange for remakes to ditch the box legendaries, but there is likely a major connection to the distortion world when it comes to that legendary and I feel they will tie them into the Sinnoh games.

 

[Deleted member 48434]

It's really stupid to have a separate season pass for both versions. Living in the past.

That said, the DLC honestly looks neat, particually the glacier one, and may convince me to buy depending on impressions. If the DLC has a Hard Mode, or they release a Version with all the DLC included, I'll go for it.

One thing that does have me hopeful though, is that this is a clear opportunity for Gamefreak to experiment and break free of their current conventions with how they make Pokemon games. Maybe they'll learn new things. Maybe the story and overworld structure of the next generation will be dramatically different from anything before it.