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Pokémon Sword and Shield |OT| God Save The Vespiquen

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Joseki

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Nov 5, 2017
6,568
Probably because Leon is one of the hardest champions ever in Pokémon. Has a very balanced team and really high level
He's probably the best since the 3DS era, but Cynthia and Steven from DP/RS are much, much harder to beat.

I still can't beat Cynthia playing the game normally now. I always to either grind or cheese her with battle items.

Leon's mons were pretty much one shotted by everything in my personal case.
 

KillstealWolf

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Oct 27, 2017
5,906
I had like no issues at all with Leon. I noticed there is a level spike between him and the last battle you had with Rose. But my team was basically tied with his levels at that point (Which Is nice over the 5 levels+ I was against anyone else) and just playing the Type Game was enough to win. The one exception was Haxorus which Iron Tail'd out my Alcremie, that was it. Bare in mind this was also with basically zero Wild Area time and focusing on the story, with a number of rotations in the team as well.

I dunno if it's fair to count that you can fight Leon at any time at Max Health and Max PP due to how the game is set up, but it is there. Whilst healing items can have you survive the gauntlet of Elite 4 battles, odds are you can just be out of PP on your best moves as Elixers are not common items you can buy in stores, so you may to win without the best moves in hand. That does make the fight easier over past Champion members for sure.

Gordie actually took the crown for most KOs against my team with 3, solely because he led with a Shell Smash Barbaracle which I wasn't prepared for (The rest of his team sorta stunk though).
 

Andri

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Mar 20, 2018
3,767
Switzerland
He's probably the best since the 3DS era, but Cynthia and Steven from DP/RS are much, much harder to beat.

I still can't beat Cynthia playing the game normally now. I always to either grind or cheese her with battle items.

Leon's Pokemon were pretty much one-shot by everything in my personal case.
Cant really agree with that.

Cynthia the same level Pokemon as Leon and 3 of her Pokemon are weak to grass, with one of them even being 4x weak.
Torterra alone can beat 4 of her Pokemon no issue since its grass and learns earthquake.

Steven has a team that is sub lvl 60, and Blaziken is very effective against 4-5 of them and can thus one-shot with ease.
 

Birdie

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Oct 26, 2017
7,062
What Type do you think got the least amount of love in SwSh?

I feel there's no clear cut "loser" this time like how you could point to Gen VI and go "poor Ice".
 

Rand a. Thor

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Oct 31, 2017
9,439
Greece
What Type do you think got the least amount of love in SwSh?

I feel there's no clear cut "loser" this time like how you could point to Gen VI and go "poor Ice".
Ground has been getting shit on these last few gens and the decline keeps on going. But for Gen 8 I gotta say its water. Barraskewda is too reliant on non STAB moves, mono water for the starter is the dullest out of all monotype starters, and Cramorant is Pelliper with a dive gimmick and none of its OP troll status.
 

Trakan

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Oct 25, 2017
1,536
i swear to god i've had surprise trade on for like two days now and it hasn't triggered. did i set it on local or some shit. what is this. wonder trade and the GTS were amazing and we backflipped back to this? I cry
You have it set to online and you have a Pokemon deposited?

What Type do you think got the least amount of love in SwSh?

I feel there's no clear cut "loser" this time like how you could point to Gen VI and go "poor Ice".
Do you mean in terms of number of new Pokemon or the quality of those Pokemon?

Ground only got Sandaconda, Runerigus, and Stunfisk.
 

Bardoon

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May 27, 2018
879
England
I caught Zamazenta in a Premier Ball. Only took about 5 at low health, I was surprised.

Also hatched a shiny Corsola last night, but it has its regular ability and not its HA. Hidden ability capsule please Game Freak :(
 

KillstealWolf

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Oct 27, 2017
5,906
Ground has been getting shit on these last few gens and the decline keeps on going. But for Gen 8 I gotta say its water. Barraskewda is too reliant on non STAB moves, mono water for the starter is the dullest out of all monotype starters, and Cramorant is Pelliper with a dive gimmick and none of its OP troll status.
Really hard to say water when we have Dracovish tearing up online now. Fishious Rend is no joke.

Shout out to fighting this generation having every new fighting type pokemon being mono-type.(Except for Zamazenta with it's Held Item I guess). Like, I love you Falinks, but did you also have to be pure fighting? Grapploct is screaming to be Water/Fighting as well.
 

WrenchNinja

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Oct 25, 2017
9,480
Canada
Had no problems with him. Intelleon sweeper and I used Grimmsnarl for dragapult. I wonder if Intellron is just super easy mode since it outspeeds nearly everything?
Same. Thought he was super easy. Giving him two dragons, and two ghosts was dumb. his starter compliments are either weak to grass or weak to fighting. starter is easy to deal with. Then you've got charizard which is a joke.
 

Rand a. Thor

Member
Oct 31, 2017
9,439
Greece
Really hard to say water when we have Dracovish tearing up online now. Fishious Rend is no joke.

Shout out to fighting this generation having every new fighting type pokemon being mono-type.(Except for Zamazenta with it's Held Item I guess). Like, I love you Falinks, but did you also have to be pure fighting? Grapploct is screaming to be Water/Fighting as well.
Ah yes, forgot everyone's favorite tail neck abomination is Water/Dragon. Water got saved by it I guess. Fighting definitely did get a short stick compared to previous gens, but it still has some pretty damn good monotypes, Grapploct aside. Gonna lament that thing till the end of time.

Speaking of the Fossils, I still get the feeling that if we ever get fully restored formes for them they will turn out to be as strong as previous legendary trios or the Tapus.
 

Thequietone

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Oct 26, 2017
1,264
Zacian wiped my team twice. Led with quickball. Then I did paralysis and in the red. Tried ultra balls, some random ones I had and timer balls on my last Pokemon. Nothing. Got frustrated and since my battery was dying I just used the master ball unfortunately.
 

DPT120

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Oct 27, 2017
4,061
It's worth it to use the Master Ball to catch Zacian?
No, I'm saving mine for shiny raids.
Ah yes, forgot everyone's favorite tail neck abomination is Water/Dragon. Water got saved by it I guess. Fighting definitely did get a short stick compared to previous gens, but it still has some pretty damn good monotypes, Grapploct aside. Gonna lament that thing till the end of time.

Speaking of the Fossils, I still get the feeling that if we ever get fully restored formes for them they will turn out to be as strong as previous legendary trios or the Tapus.
Dracovish is already pretty good.
 

ILikeFeet

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Oct 25, 2017
25,416

Wijuci

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Jan 16, 2018
1,615
I caught Zamazenta in a regular Poké Ball.
I'd say save your Master Ball for a surprise shiny raid encounter or something better.
I caught it in a nice Chrono Ball, which I was quite happy about.
Then the game crashed.

Then I had to redo the 20 minutes of story (and tons of dialog boxes) to get back to it because I hadn't saved in a while.

Then it took me 40 (!) Ultra Balls to get it (and it was paralyzed and under 5% health...).
 

Astral

Member
Oct 27, 2017
6,406
Man I really enjoyed Bede’s arc. I hope the third game is a sequel rather than a simple third version so that we see the fruits of his labor.
 

Alexhex

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,944
Canada
because why add more characters to it like Sun and Moon when you can just refight Leon over and over again every few battles

oh what's this, one of his pokemon is charizard and he's he's gigantamaxing it, what a surprise
It's so boring but it's annoying. Like it's not that it makes it difficult, it's that the charizard is enough of a threat that I either have a specific answer to it, which gets samey and easy, or I don't, and just forfeit as soon as I seem him

blegh
 

XandBosch

Member
Oct 27, 2017
4,524
Okay so I started the game yesterday, and as of right now I'm about to take route 3 towards the first Gym town or whatever.

Does this game take the reins off soon and stop playing like a movie? Every 5 seconds there's a "cut scene" involving Hop or whoever and this shit is getting really tiring. It doesn't help that he's insufferable as a character so far lol.
 

Berordn

Member
Oct 26, 2017
5,464
Orlando, FL
Okay so I started the game yesterday, and as of right now I'm about to take route 3 towards the first Gym town or whatever.

Does this game take the reins off soon and stop playing like a movie? Every 5 seconds there's a "cut scene" involving Hop or whoever and this shit is getting really tiring. It doesn't help that he's insufferable as a character so far lol.
Not really. You can always go dick around in the Wild Area if you're tired of being funneled through the story but you'll run out of stuff to do there pretty fast too. It'll be constantly pushing you towards the end, though some of the later routes at least let you traverse them completely before throwing you into the next story scene.
 

XandBosch

Member
Oct 27, 2017
4,524
Not really. You can always go dick around in the Wild Area if you're tired of being funneled through the story but you'll run out of stuff to do there pretty fast too. It'll be constantly pushing you towards the end, though some of the later routes at least let you traverse them completely before throwing you into the next story scene.
Seriously? This doesn't slow down at all? I don't remember the older games encumbering you with this much "story" at all.