Yeah and combine that with a team that isn't that big and have put out a game every November for the last 3 years and one more this year.
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Pokémon Sword & Shield Spoiler, Leak and Datamine Thread 2 | Page 401 (Update: Datamining has begun)
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GameFreak should hire me for PR. Here's what they should have said instead:
This was in one of the tweets. I'm not gonna make a judgment on whether GameFreak "lied," but this is going to haunt them for a while if the fanbase has anything to say about it.
"For every Pokémon game we set out to make a new regional Pokédex of old and new Pokémon to best represent the spirit of the new region. This in itself takes an incredible amount of work when it comes to creating new assets for new Pokémon / landscape of the region / new human NPC's, but also the work on updating old Pokémon's asset and update their old movepools and abilities as well as Pokédex entries to properly fit into this new generation. To on top of this keep continuing to add a national dex that holds a continually increasing number of Pokémon where fans expect them to be treated the same as the Pokémon of the regional dex will in the long run keep eating up resources to such a degree it will affect the quality of the main game. It is with big regret we feel we had to take this step and we will try our best to ensure people will be able to bring their favourite Pokémon to future games as often as possible."
Yeeeeuuupp. Game needed like another 18 months at least. If this isnt a wake up call to GF internally then nothing will be until they've poisoned the well
Oh Ok. I mean, I can't believe anyone seriously thought they weren't reusing them, but it's always nice to have proof.
Pretty sure someone mentioned itt that GF can set whatever date they want, its just that once set there isnt wiggle room to change it
Sorry mate, still not cutting it with me. #bringbackthenationaldex
Nah, honestly this is a much better answer even if the outrage would still be forthcoming.
See, it's hard because you would get roasted for this as they did say something like that once and people started pointing out recently they cut the Terrier Pokémon (Stoutland), but have stuff like Pangoro in the UK region. lol
But I agree that their PR is bad.
Then Gamefreak needs to make it known to them that the current production schedule is going to fucking kill the series if it continues like this.
There would still be backlash but I doubt it would've gotten to the point people were outright combing through every vid to contradict the statements made
30k people on the subreddit
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Dominating era
I'd say this is one of the clearest examples of the sheer size of Pokemon.
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Dominating era
I'd say this is one of the clearest examples of the sheer size of Pokemon.
I have a hard time imagining that Nintendo is much to blame, they are very willing to delay games and hate crunch.
Honestly, I'd struggle to name the Gym Leaders of any region, except maybe for Gen 1...but that's largely because of the anime. And this is despite being heavily invested in the series and putting hundreds if not thousands of hours into most of the games. I just can't bring myself to give a damn about any of the stories or characters of Pokemon games, so gens V and VII were a real low point for me.
Espescially since it will go unnoticed in the larger picture of Pokémon.
this will not be a popular opinion, but gf needs a 4 year dev cycle and treat it like a gaas style game. add new areas/regions as dlc.
I doubt they haven't made it known. Everything about attempting a big open area designed for co-op seems ambitious to the point where the same length of development is going to make that very hard to live up to the concept. Not saying it won't be fun, but that aspect of the game definitely seems like they want to do these big ideas on the same engine that just doesn't seem optimal.
It's pretty telling then that it's gotten to this point.
GF needs to look at both their PR and at their communication to the fan base.
Someone I know has been playing and is complaining about the performance. That's very disappointing.
My prediction is that this gen will be the start of the GaaS model, mostly adding new raid battles overtime. We'll see if they expand on it going forward.
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I can't show you my browser history to prove it so I guess you'll have to take my word for it
I think this gen is what they could do in 24 months. gen 10 will be gaas transition if they do it.
Damn, saddens me how much hate X/Y get. I feel like online especially was never better than it was in that game, and the new Pokemon were so good. At the very least, I think the generation was vastly better than the poor level scaling and lifeless implementation of Kanto in G/S/HG/SS, and the endless handholding of Sun/Moon.
Nah, new gen every 3 years like always. This was I think the first time ever that they did not take one year off in between gens. In all honesty, after USUM came out it should have been all hands on deck for SWSH. Instead they went into LGPE and that hampered development on SWSH.
I still think lgpe was going to be a 3ds game that they restarted for switch after the switch took off.
4 year would be healthier in the long run. Games are better and devs are less crunched. We had four year waits between 3/4 and 4/5, there's no reason we can't wait 4 years, especially in the HD era.
Also, HGSS and BW didn't have a year between 'em.
soo models look to be the same o_o
well i am assume they are touched up in someway (or in many since all we see is the wire frame)
Depending how the switch/game engine handles shadders and normal mapping
on each model things can get exponentially crazy. Thats not even taking into account how the lighting is handled.
But looks like they got themselves into a corner, they said its new models but maybe its just an overhaul to the old
models (excluding wire frame and i will also assume the skeletal rig).
well i am assume they are touched up in someway (or in many since all we see is the wire frame)
Depending how the switch/game engine handles shadders and normal mapping
on each model things can get exponentially crazy. Thats not even taking into account how the lighting is handled.
But looks like they got themselves into a corner, they said its new models but maybe its just an overhaul to the old
models (excluding wire frame and i will also assume the skeletal rig).
If the games were the only factor there wouldn't be a reason, I agree.
We all know the games is just a small part of Pokémon now, though.
its funny to define 15+million units as small, may well be but still funny.
I'm not going to lose sleep over stockholders not making money faster because new merchandise takes longer to come out. I don't care about them and shouldn't as a consumer. If GameFreak, Nintendo, and TPC want to sell me $60 RPGs that aren't gutted compared to previous games, then this is what they must do, or else they won't see my money.
The anime had filler seasons before and it seems moot now that the anime isnt even exclusively in Galar. If they really need a shot in the merchandising arm then they can throw in a cameo of a few new Pokemon in a new Mystery Dungeon.
They could fill the game with stuff like battle faciilites filled with random generated NPCs and a few boss characters. Just touch up the rules a bit for variety and you have a lot of content that lasts a long time without needing to do too much!!
See, that's where my problem with their priorities is. I get that dev is hard, but stuff like BF could improve post-game a lot without hurting their dev too much and they don't do that because of game design issues ("few people care") instead of technical problems.
I wouldn't mind if the graphics were a bit janky and stuff like that as long as I had a lot of content like that.
See, that's where my problem with their priorities is. I get that dev is hard, but stuff like BF could improve post-game a lot without hurting their dev too much and they don't do that because of game design issues ("few people care") instead of technical problems.
I wouldn't mind if the graphics were a bit janky and stuff like that as long as I had a lot of content like that.
This is where the merchandising aspect comes in, I don't think they will be comfortable waiting 4 years to sell new cards, plushes etc. 3 years should be fine if they are given the proper resources.
As someone who has never played online X and Y were pretty disappointing. I still finished Y unlike Sun which I dropped about halfway through. I've never been a diehard fan. I dropped off after gen 2 like many did. I came back for Black and White and loved it. Then was disappointed by Y by comparison. I'm still giving it another chance with Sword. I really hope it's not as bad as the leaks seem to be pointing towards.
Hey, Clemont is my bro.
Mostly due to the anime, but still. I like him.
The problem is by the time we move consoles, let's say the Super Switch has PS4 specs or better, pushing out a good, healthy RPG with a lot of content is going to be difficult in just 3 years. They need to start prepping for longer dev cycles now so they can be ready for that. They need breathing room and they aren't getting it.
I don't care either but they've built this cog and they won't allow one part of the cog to ruin the machinery. You don't have to like it but we're stuck in this 3 year cycle.
What they really should do is fully focus on next gen once a game is released and just keep a small team together for GaaS-style updates. Not having to pump out a remake and/or updated version every gen should help.
Simple solution: Have 2 studios work on mainline games. (Gf and monolith soft for example)
I agree they have some of the best video games music but Sun and Moon had terrible ost mostly imo.
I'm just saying, Dragon Quest 11 was in development for four years, and it shows. It's a very traditional JRPG but it looks gorgeous and feels big and adventurous. If we were getting Pokemon games that looked like this:
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I would eat the loss on the Nat Dex cut. But stockholders need their merch money so I guess we won't get that.
I would eat the loss on the Nat Dex cut. But stockholders need their merch money so I guess we won't get that.
should point out it has a tiny fraction of the models pokemon does.I'm just saying, Dragon Quest 11 was in development for four years, and it shows. It's a very traditional JRPG but it looks gorgeous and feels big and adventurous. If we were getting Pokemon games that looked like this:
I would eat the loss on the Nat Dex cut. But stockholders need their merch money so I guess we won't get that.
DQ11 is exactly what Pokemon Sword/Shield should be - steadfastly true to the series' roots, but incredibly polished and innovative in all the right ways.I'm just saying, Dragon Quest 11 was in development for four years, and it shows. It's a very traditional JRPG but it looks gorgeous and feels big and adventurous. If we were getting Pokemon games that looked like this:
I would eat the loss on the Nat Dex cut. But stockholders need their merch money so I guess we won't get that.
tbh as a DQ fan I feel like XI had a few problems that are similar to Pokémon's HD move. There are few enemies in comparison to previous games and a loooot of recolors, including 90% of the bosses. That felt a bit cheap.I'm just saying, Dragon Quest 11 was in development for four years, and it shows. It's a very traditional JRPG but it looks gorgeous and feels big and adventurous. If we were getting Pokemon games that looked like this:
I would eat the loss on the Nat Dex cut. But stockholders need their merch money so I guess we won't get that.
I also feel like the world is a bit small in comparison to older games, so they end up making you revisit the same towns several times. You even get remixed old dungeons instead of new ones in late game.
Still a great game of course and with a few things Pokémon could learn from it, but I'll always take content over graphics.
Man the list of excuses for the cuts is getting shorter by the day
Good thing they mostly reused models then huh
Damn people really hate serebii huh? I was watching the "2019 corporate slave awards" nomination video and people in the comment section were nominating serebii.
My biggest issue with DQ11 is hearing that overworld theme for 60 hours
Just hearing the news about the 3d models being reused and I think that's honestly the final straw for me.