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Polar bear shot and killed in self defense by cruise ship guard
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https://www.apnews.com/6e7900891c9b...lled-after-attack-on-Arctic-cruise-ship-guard
Yup. What are we supposed to say to this? That's terrible but the bear was probably going to kill multiple people if it didn't happen. Thanks for a random dose of sadness?
These attacks will probably become more common as the habitats and food supplies of polar bears become smaller and smaller and as tourism to the Arctic increases.
Probably good to get used to this shit now or possibly advocate for further protections for polar bears.
I mean accidents happen. This story didn't really grab me either way and the dead bear, it is what it is.
I mean it sucks the bear died but its not like it was a random kill for sport. Judging by the title, i thought the guard shot the bear from the ship and claimed self defense.
Exactly, bear vs people I am not sure this needed to be a thread
-Take tourists to a remote area known for polar bears
-Get too close to polar bear
-Polar bear acts like polar bear
-Kill polar bear "we had to do it to save the humans"
Meanwhile polar bears are a threatened species, and the human population will be over 10 billion before 2050, meaning more humans to push into wild areas and have interactions with wild animals that create excuses to kill those wild animals for behaving like wild animals.
You don't? You chose to come in here?
Anyways this is sad and probably going to keep happening.
I am glad people have the ability to get on over sized boats, gorging themselves into oblivion and be lead on scenic tours on land with the possibility of seeing a live animal shot. Because as humans, nothing here on this planet is not ours to take.
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I am dead inside. But mostly sad. Poor polar bear :(
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I am dead inside. But mostly sad. Poor polar bear :(
Maybe this forum doesn't exist to be tailor made to what you do or don't want to see.
You can discuss or question the value of tours like this if they inherently come with the risk of harming the very animals they're meant to be celebrating. Or we can explore if incidents like this are due to food scarcity/climate change.
It's up to us to decide how we want to utilize the topic as a jump off point.
Sure, I guess. It's just none of that is in the blurb except a dry incident that seemed "fair" and my area of expertise isn't polar bear conservation. The topic could prompt the discussion a bit.
I feel bad the polar bear died but I don't think the alternative of letting it feast on the polar bear guard is ok either. I'm fine with people killing an animal that is trying to kill them or another person and a polar bear is VERY capable of that.
Eh, I mean... we can replace polar bear guards. Would be wild if they didn't have any guns and just scarified themselves to save everyone else and also save polar bears. A true hero that'd be.
I know right. Couldn't just stay in their God damned boat. Gotta go walk on the stupid beach.
See folks at the top? There's a takeaway for you. Stay in your god damned boat so no animals need to be killed.
They could also not put themselves in a position to be within attacking distance of a Polar Bear.
So you'd sit and watch another person get mauled and eaten by an endangered animal because "There's more people."?
Well, I certainly wouldn't shoot a Polar Bear.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
What's wrong with the tourists who decided to explore a remote glacier known for polar bears?
How dare they not lay down and let themselves get eaten. Look, yes they shouldn't have been there in the first place, but I for one cant blame them for defending themselves when attacked by a bear.
They honestly shouldn't make landfall anywhere that is home to polar bears. I'm sure incidents like these are extremely rare, but it's still fucked up to go on a tour that's about observing these creatures only to end up killing one of them. I don't blame the guard for shooting in self-defense, but the tour should really re-evaluate their overall procedure.
Maybe you'd have a point if the story was about them antagonizing the polar bear. But simply being in a area where wild animals aren't should mean you deserve to die to them.
It's not like they were camping at Yellowstone. You go out to some remote polar bear infested glacier island what happens is on you.
I think I identified the problem
They have the right to defend themselves but maybe these fuckers shouldn't be going there, Global Warming has affected these creatures usual pattern of feeding, that Polar Bear looks skinny, it's very hungry, Arctic tourism should be banned until a solution is found to help these creatures...
I don't know if your own logic is working out here because Yellowstone is full of wild animals, some of which are endangered, and is effectively just as 'wild' as where that polar bear lived. So shouldn't hypothetical Yellowstone campers have it coming just as much as the tourists/polar bear guard?
Not the same location, but pretty much the same issue.
"You want to feel embracing cold on your skin? Stick your dick in a freezer."
Sadly you can get a warning or a ban for saying this because "human life trumps all".
How did they even get close enough for a guard to be injured. Why do you need to get so close to a polar bear. This is like these idiots in safaries that get out of the car and then cry when they get mauled by a wild animal.
Just don't be close to a wild animal, easy to understand, right? You don't need to pet them if you are not trained or have the knowledge to handle such wild animals.
Yeah, hopefully these cruises will learn from this situation and avoid letting people land too close to polar bears so this can be avoided in the future.
I don't blame people for wanting to see the arctic, but respect the land and the wildlife.
And c'mon, obviously you can just let someone die, and put more people at risk of death.
I don't blame people for wanting to see the arctic, but respect the land and the wildlife.
And c'mon, obviously you can just let someone die, and put more people at risk of death.
I did say in my post that they shouldn't be there. No shit they shouldn't be there, but since they were, should they not have defended themselves from the attack?