Let's say this socialist Utopia happens, it won't but let's say it does. Then someone like Trump gets elected.
How fucked would we be
-
Ever wanted an RSS feed of all your favorite gaming news sites? Go check out our new Gaming Headlines feed! Read more about it here.
Politico: Sorry Democrats, but Your Stars Are Socialists. The most compelling stars of the Democratic party are self-described socialist.
- Thread starter Deleted member 3812
- Start date
How fucked would we be
Eh, the tides are changing and times too. Sure the old dem guard can try and limit the socialist influence, but the odds, and voting populace, is against them.
Even supposed moderate candidates support schemes such as medicare for all, some sort of single payer health care plan, and green new deal. Sure, not full on socialist policies, but the line is getting blurrier each day.
Even supposed moderate candidates support schemes such as medicare for all, some sort of single payer health care plan, and green new deal. Sure, not full on socialist policies, but the line is getting blurrier each day.
Yes
On a side note, if you associate the red here with the GOP, this fits today's political climate.
An authoritarian, ultranationalistic, white supremacist running a socialist state? Well, it depends on the form of government, if it even has one. In a representative socialist state? Well, if Trump's party controls the majority I could see it turn into a Nazi-lite state where socialism is only given to white people or a USSR style government where oligarchs control the means of production. Probably a bit of both. In a direct democracy socialist state? Anything can go, since people elected someone like Trump in the first place. In a stateless socialist state? Nothing, cause he literally has no power.
I'd love to see an American Labour party. It could be the roots of a truly internationalist labour movement. As frustrating as it is, western "internationalist" socialist movements are doomed without American support.
yeah but i don't think the democratic party could really transform itself into a labour party, it would have to be completely destroyed and remade from scratch (which i'm all for personally but seems unlikely)
I look at what I pay monthly in perscriptions on top of what I pay for insurance... I can't fucking wait.
Yep, the lack of political representation of American labour is a huge issue both inside and outside America itself.
Guys, stop panicking lol.
Did you see what happened on the Fox News Bernie townhall? The hosts asked if they wanted Medicare for All, expecting the audience to have bought into the conservative propaganda, and they cheered for it.
There is a clear shift. Trump has a good economy by conventional metrics, but the areas in middle America, that Trump promised revitalization, are not growing still. They're are getting poorer and poorer. His tariff policy has been a disaster as well.
You guys gotta stop it with this. Be sober-minded and objective. The sky is not falling and these pieces don't tell the full story. Trump and the GOP are in trouble.
Trump has also punted any health talk after 2020. He knows he will be destroyed if he brings it up.
Did you see what happened on the Fox News Bernie townhall? The hosts asked if they wanted Medicare for All, expecting the audience to have bought into the conservative propaganda, and they cheered for it.
There is a clear shift. Trump has a good economy by conventional metrics, but the areas in middle America, that Trump promised revitalization, are not growing still. They're are getting poorer and poorer. His tariff policy has been a disaster as well.
You guys gotta stop it with this. Be sober-minded and objective. The sky is not falling and these pieces don't tell the full story. Trump and the GOP are in trouble.
Trump has also punted any health talk after 2020. He knows he will be destroyed if he brings it up.
Americans: Democrats are actually socialists who are actually communists who are actually nazis who are actually muslims
You have to wonder why this thread was made given the author of the article...
Socialism in America = taxing the wealthy at a higher % than the median household income earners to support public services in a Capitalist economic system.
In other words, it's not even close to Socialism. It's just how the conservo-Republicans try to scare the everyday people into keeping the wealthy rich and in power and not contributing to anything but their own bank accounts.
In other words, it's not even close to Socialism. It's just how the conservo-Republicans try to scare the everyday people into keeping the wealthy rich and in power and not contributing to anything but their own bank accounts.
lol at no mention of Rich Lowry in the OP. By sharing this, OP just got clowned on the internet by some conservative fool. Be better than the OP.
I find it humorous people are trying to bring up definitions of socialism as if any political label hasn't wildly drifted context. You think "Republicans" are all about the Republic?
Yeah, so true. I love these "Socialist paradises" like ... the Netherlands ... are actually just capitalist market democracies with reasonable tax rates to provide adequate public services.
The establishment Democrats don't view things much differently. They have zero interest in socialism. They want more robust social programs but changing the economic playfield is not an objective.
Last edited:
I was hoping that the establishment would save us with another winner like Al Gore, John Kerry, or Hilary Clinton.
Which is why calling themselves Socialists is just hamstringing themselves for no good fucking reason whatsoever.
Brilliant plays there. Nobody would care if they would just label themselves social democrats, which they are.
If a "socialist Utopia" as you call it happens then Communism would be the name of the game and there would be no state and no hierarchical power structures for someone like Trump to take a seat in, besides the fact that money would be abolished making it very difficult for someone like Trump to exist.
Surely Ol' Joe can get it on his third try. The first two failed campaigns were just flukes.
OP
OP
Oh ok, so ignore Politico's op-eds then and just read the news from Politico?
Yes
On a side note, if you associate the red here with the GOP, this fits today's political climate.
Why are they describing USA in the lower text?
Ah, clearly an honest man just asking innocent questions .
Also, lol at the idea that any dem is a socialist.
If you look at the proposaed tax rates by these stars, not a single one of them is an actual socialist.
The Democrats are over then if the only people that attract attention are these types of people. They are simply not viable in a general election. Elect them in safe blue districts if you can though.
Why are you posting an op-ed from the editor of The National Review
No. Social democrats will take over the party, and they will start winning again. Incase you have not noticed, the democratic party is in disarray because they are too far right, not the other way around.
Stop eating garbage and regurgitating those talking points.
Obama being a center right republican(his words not mine) didnt stop his party from collapsing. Its time we actually tried to be a real party for the people.
I think more and more people here in the US are starting to realize George Carlin was right when he said "It's called the American Dream... because you have to be asleep to believe it."
Love too parrot dumb talking points that reinforce economic austerity, inequality and institutionalized racism.
Republicans appreciate people like you far more than they hate the socialists. Your fealty makes their whole project much easier.
As a fast-rising socialist superstar on this forum, I can definitely say that collective ownership is the necessary way forward