What's the actual logic behind the forbiddance of priests and nuns to marry anyway?
Is it the whole giving all of oneself to God or something like that?
Is it the whole giving all of oneself to God or something like that?
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Pope requests Roman Catholic priests be given right to marry
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Yes. Wife and I started out with communication problems (me getting into rages) when we firsr got married and I said we need a marriage counselor. So she got our parish deacon to council. Not what I was expecting.
As for the article. I'm glad it went into detail in what the Pope was saying. Was worried about reactionary headlines like "POPE OKAYS PRIESTS GETTING MARRIED". This isn't new. Pope Francis has been suggesting this for a while now.
Sadly as for women priests, like it said in the article, its like what I said in that other forum a fee years back: I believe the Catholic Church will allow gay marriage before we see our first woman Catholic Priest. I was shot down but prove wrong in 30 years.
As for this current topic? I expect it to be debated for another 20 years or before a decision is made.
Two answers: The one you posed and the other was a history of dirty priests and bishops and popes leaving their amassed wealth and power to their children.
How do you say "This is why we don't have nice things" in Latin?
Now to be clear, though even the article in the OP appears to be misinterpreting things, this is Francis asking for a specific exemption only for men who are ALREADY married to be allowed to be ordained as priests. This doesn't suddenly mean all currently ordained Catholic priests are back in the dating pool, and once ordained you're still expected to no longer date/marry. Diaconate ordination already functioned similarly, so there is precedent here as well.
It's weird, he seems to say some really liberal things that make sense and then suddenly he'll come out with some hateful shit. I wonder how much of the hateful shit is actually his own opinion or just his underlings telling him what to say.
There's also the possibility of someone being a relatively decent person in some ways, but biased/backwards/uneducated in others.
There are horrible people, but I also believe there are some only partly horrible people.
What you said is often stated, an possibly why people accept it today, but the original reason was simply keeping the wealth on the church.
Can't have spouses and children taking all that gold.
Here's something to think about. Back in the early days of the church, many men who became priests were landowners and had some modicum of wealth. If those men were not permitted to marry and have children, who became the beneficiary when they died?
EDIT: What Westbahnhof said...
One more tidbit: Fish on Friday during Lent came about because the church owned the fisheries.
Forbidding priest to marriage has to do with the empire roots of the Catholic Church. When priest couldn't have heirs, they couldn't pass down their wealth, so the church took their property. This was when priests were rather wealthy in both status and material wealth.
Did anyone else notice the bit at the end about ordaining women deacons as priests? That is just as huge.
Woah, is this true? 0_o is there any resource or link that I can read that can illuminate me on this? I'm interested on the subject.
Very old institution so it was money (which means land).
