Are you really asking this question in a thread about a police department (not just a single officer even) knowingly falsifying evidence? It should be pretty obvious to you why someone would make that statement.
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This is my thought. The cops should not have altered the photo and the DA should be forced to argue about such a possibility to a judge, though, full stop. Abuse of power out the ass to frame a suspect.
Meanwhile, the good cops:
Post should be used every time when talking about not all cops.
If the majority of cops are good, why are not the majority of police officers decrying the murderers and otherwise lawless among them? They can't, you say, for they will be ostracized. But how can that happen... if the majority of them are good?
Right. Like if the argument is "well good cops can't speak up because the cops that do speak up are fired"...then you are basically admitting that being a 'good cop' (speaking up about abuses of power) requires one to no longer be a cop. So you've just admitted that remaining an officer means remaining complicit.
The entire police organization is a gang and they can all fuck themselves. Every one of them should be in prison. Fuck the police. Better off without them.
A cop that doesn't uphold the law and/or knowingly allows it to be broken by other officers is a bad cop.
A cop that knowingly breaks the law is a bad cop.
Pretty easy, right? If we made a diagram the majority of police officers would fall in one of those two categories. "All" might sound hyperbolic if you're being pedantic, but if you've got to resort to semantics you already lost the point, the plot and the argument.
This generalisation is just plain stupid.
You think you're better than Trump supporters when you call out every single cop as bad? Guess what, you're not. You're as brain dead as them.
You think you're better than Trump supporters when you call out every single cop as bad? Guess what, you're not. You're as brain dead as them.
On Kitchen Nightmares, multiple cooks featured on the show know the basics of using ingredients to make food that can be consumed and digested. The show is pointedly about how that does not make these cooks good or decent at best. What the show and Ramsey reveal is that being a cook/resturaunt owner in general is about more than just doing the bare minimum. It requires multiple considerations beyond just having a kitchen, utensils, and ingredients. Several of the cooks anger Ramsey because they believe that just because their resturant exists, it means they are or should be respected when that isn't the truth. The same goes for law enforcement. Responding to killers, robberies and other crisies is literally the bare minimum of the job. People attend police academies being aware of this. The part that actually makes an officer good is how they relate to and build trust among their community, how they choose to address situations and most importantly how they respond to criminality that happens right in front of their faces. Being a good officer means actually caring enough about the integrity of the job and the citizens you have immense legal authority over to risk life and reputation to reinforce those very ideals. If you want to be insulted by people calling all cops bad, feel free. But the people in law enforcement across the country who turn a blind eye to these situations and say nothing in response while the levers are pulled to allow this corruption to continue are not good cops.
Yes we are better because we aren't in favor of or support policies that directly harm officers. We simply want them to do better at their jobs which we literally pay them for and which again isn't a religion, race, gender or sexuality.
"if you don't add the disclaimer that not every single cop that exists is bad when you say "all cops" then you are just as bad as Trump supporters!"
What I just said but make it into that Spongebob meme.
Is every cop out there bad? Nah, some are even decent people, just trying to make a living. The problem is, the whole police institution is rotten to the core and anybody that participates in it is by extension part of the problem especially when it's extremely rare for a cop not to side against their "police family" even when it's the morally right thing to do.
What I just said but make it into that Spongebob meme.
Is every cop out there bad? Nah, some are even decent people, just trying to make a living. The problem is, the whole police institution is rotten to the core and anybody that participates in it is by extension part of the problem especially when it's extremely rare for a cop not to side against their "police family" even when it's the morally right thing to do.
Did... did I just reach and change the mind of someone I disagreed with online? Did all the time I've wasted on Era just become worth it?
If I could wave a magic wand to change anything I like, I'd probably eliminate the need for a police force to begin with. But since that wand doesn't exist, it falls to individuals to decide with every interaction they make every day they're on the job to place empathy and equality above institutional loyalty. That can mean anything from doing everything possible to deescalate a dangerous situation instead of reaching immediately for your gun to refusing to circle the wagons the moment it looks like a cop might face the slightest hint of consequence for their wrongdoing and instead calling out those abuses of power. If you're a cop joining the force today, do that and try to convince your colleagues of the value in doing so until they fire you. Then you'll have done all that could ever be expected of you and will have earned the elusive moniker of "good cop." If you still really care after that, leverage your time on the force to lobby for institutional change from the outside.
Frankly I think the whole concept of community policing only really works in the fantasy where their ranks are selected from the very best among us to represent our noblest ideals, but that's never going to be the case.
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Instead of going the normal god damn route of being a snarky asshole about things and just yelling, you actually stayed levelheaded lol Something I'm much more prone to listening to.
Here's the dumb opinion, ladies and gentlemen. Soak it up.
Oh, let's dig into this a bit more. How do you draw a reasonable corollary between Trump supporters who by and large support fascist anti-minority police action, and our side who do not?
The point of "ACAB" is that the system of policing is inherently corrupt and oppressive and you cannot be "good" in it unless you no longer be a cop.
Both sides!
Both sides!
Every single cop who breaks the law is a bad cop.
Every single cop who allows other cops to break the law is a bad cop.
Every single cop who shields other cops from the law is a bad cop.
Every single cop who stays silent before, during, or after the law is being broken by other cops is a bad cop.
Generalization? Exactly what part of this do you disagree with, Bitch?
Not all cops are corrupt, or racist... However, the cops that are not, do not speak up against the ones that are.
Perpetrating and perpetuating means that all cops are bad.
And yet we never here about a single set of good cops ever protesting the bad cops actions. All cops are trash
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Out of curiosity, when Trump or his followers claim "all Mexicans are rapists or drug dealers", you think they actually refer to "all" Mexicans or would you call such an assessment hyperbolic as well?
But seriously, you know damn well that unlike yourself some people here are not capable of seeing the nuances here, for them, every cop is bad, and for others out there every Mexican is a rapists or drug dealer, literally. There's simply no room for admitting there are good ones among them, too. Those are the ones I was referring to. And yes, I think people with such a mindset are plain stupid. Both sides, indeed.
Simple answer? I wouldn't draw my line there at all. Just because I hate Trump and his followers that doesn't mean I'm automatically on your side, wherever that actually is on the political spectrum.
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FFS they do, they are racist, what kind of moronic "gotcha" is this?
How stupid are you?
Galaxy brain take.
Cop defenders in this forum are something else.
Ah yes now we are comparing chosen professions to ethnicity. Cool
Being Mexican is not the same thing as being a cop. A cop is a job. A race/ethnicity isn't. Cops choose to work and be paid for that work by the taxes of citizens. Hispanic and Latinx people are born and live their whole lives as a class of people frequently disenfranchised by actual policy in multiple arenas of society from health, to finances, to policing and their own basic human rights. Also, what was significant about Trump saying all Mexicans are rapists and drug dealers is the intent he has as a powerful figure with a wide-reaching influence to treat that rhetoric as reality and to punish thousands of thousands of people based upon his own prejudice for, again not the career they choose but rather immutable skin color. People saying ACAB on this board do not have that same power. This is dead simple shit.
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So wait are you saying people are born cops the same way people are born in Mexico? You know they choose to do that right? These things are not remotely similar
I'm not a native speaker but I really hope my English is not so bad that this is a proper summary of what I actually said.
Fuck tha police came out 3 decades ago and shit hasn't gotten any better.
I don't think those people are bad cops per se. History has shown that speaking out, especially against the cops, can really fuck up your life. To me its more like a good chunk of cops are bad, and the rest of them are just trying to get home to their families without stirring the pot. The cycle only gets worse, because the cops that want to speak out are pushed out of their jobs through retaliation, leaving only the corrupt and the meek.