President Shitbag(trump)suspends tariffs on Mexico after deal on immigration reached

Midnight Jon

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No you said the GOP Senate. That is not his base
you're gonna need a lawyer to defend yourself from bungie with all this reach. yes, this guy who throws a shit fit every time anyone doesn't give him complete and total deference in all things is totally not gonna care the most about whether his party's only legislative majority (about 2/3 of which was elected largely by the same dipshit voters now deepthroating his every move) publicly rebukes him on a signature policy

extremely high quality post!
 

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you're gonna need a lawyer to defend yourself from bungie with all this reach


extremely high quality post!
Is this your response? That is an extremely high quality post of you. I don't know what reach I did. You said the GOP Senate, did you not? It seems you like attacking me. But seems like you can't provide answers yourself. And then you accuse me of trolling. Smh
 

xolsec

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Yeah, it’s sad to see Mexico depend so much on the US. I wish Mexico would had developed better since it’s independence. But the constant attacks from other countries (specially the US) to Mexico and the corruption never let Mexico fully develop to a world super power.
It’s been an ugly 100 years for us, corruption is only one of our many problems. We are a resource rich country that was always kept on its knees by foreign influence.

There’s still hope though.
 

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It’s been an ugly 100 years for us, corruption is only one of our many problems. We are a resource rich country that was always kept on its knees by foreign influence.

There’s still hope though.
And because it’s such a rich country in resource is why foreign influence was keen to drain Mexico. Porfirio Diaz was right. “Pobre de Mexico, tan lejos de dios y tan cerca de Estados Unidos.”
 

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We have no choice, is it that hard to understand? Do you think that for us it’s better to make him look bad than the well being of millions?
Because you folded to this, he will threaten it again to get something else he wants. Over and over and over. May as well just let him write your legislation.

This would have hurt America too. It was so clear the GOP were set to prevent him doing it.

It was a bluff.
 

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Fools.

He's just going to keep bluffing with shit like this if you keep folding.
Mexico cannot meet this bluff. People really are refusing to see reality for what it is even after all this time. Trump used the leverage he has to expand a policy that was supported and defended by other presidents (Obama included). Thats a diplomatic success. No way around that.

Because you folded to this, he will threaten it again to get something else he wants. Over and over and over. May as well just let him write your legislation.

This would have hurt America too. It was so clear the GOP were set to prevent him doing it.

It was a bluff.

I hope youre not American, because if your are: Holy shit at the tone and condescending language.
 

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Mexico cannot meet this bluff. People really are refusing to see reality for what it is even after all this time. Trump used the leverage he has to expand a policy that was supported and defended by other presidents (Obama included). Thats a diplomatic success. No way around that.
It wouldn't have happened. The GOP in the senate were lining up to stop him. That's why it was a bluff.
 

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Because you folded to this, he will threaten it again to get something else he wants. Over and over and over. May as well just let him write your legislation.

This would have hurt America too. It was so clear the GOP were set to prevent him doing it.

It was a bluff.
I think you guys fail to understand how much the Mexican economy depends on the US. The US can tank the loss, Mexico can’t. Every time this guy talks bad about Mexico, the Mexican peso loses value.
 

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Guys México isnt China that can call bluffs, our exports to the US are more than half our total exports, we depend too much on the US to do so
 

xolsec

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Because you folded to this, he will threaten it again to get something else he wants. Over and over and over. May as well just let him write your legislation.
You still don’t understand. You think we are playing US politics here? Do you think we don’t know that? We are not China, there are no other options for us.
 

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You are all failing to understand that this threat was a bluff that wouldn't have been carried out.
But does Mexico know that for sure? Can they afford to wait out his bluff while it’s market is already tanking in the fears of tariffs? I mean he did it to China.
Every time this guy talks bad about Mexico, the peso devalues.
Are you 100% the GOP was going to stop him? Because it seems he’s been able to do whatever he wants.
 

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Mexico cannot take the risk. Period. No matter how much resistance he was expected to get from the party.
Guys México isnt China that can call bluffs, our exports to the US are more than half our total exports, we depend too much on the US to do so
All you had to do was wait to see if he could put the tariffs in place. That's it. If he did, you make this same deal and you take a one day hit.

You didn't have to submit to the full tariffs for a year to call this bluff. You just had to wait until Monday before folding. That was all.
 

MANUELF

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All you had to do was wait to see if he could put the tariffs in place. That's it. If he did, you make this same deal and you take a one day hit.
You didn't have to submit to the full tariffs for a year to call this bluff. You just had to wait until Monday before folding. That was all.
Thats still too much to ask the goverment has been pressed for this since his charade, they can't leave this to change of it doesnt happening, especially with the way the senate just approves whatever he wants and the peso kept falling
 

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Guys México isnt China that can call bluffs, our exports to the US are more than half our total exports, we depend too much on the US to do so
It’s a two way street, Texas and many other states that are actually red also depend heavily no matter how much they like to hate on Mexicans. They threatened Trump that they would block the tariffs and even threatened a veto override. This gives both sides releif and Trump gets to pretend he fixed something again.
 

xolsec

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All you had to do was wait to see if he could put the tariffs in place. That's it. If he did, you make this same deal and you take a one day hit.

You didn't have to submit to the full tariffs for a year to call this bluff. You just had to wait until Monday before folding. That was all.
ROFL... yea you are right. I will tell our government to call you next time the US want to impose new tariffs.
 

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All you had to do was wait to see if he could put the tariffs in place. That's it. If he did, you make this same deal and you take a one day hit.

You didn't have to submit to the full tariffs for a year to call this bluff. You just had to wait until Monday before folding. That was all.
Oh ok I get it now. You are using an American filter to analyze the political system of Mexico instead of trying to undetstand Latin American realities
 

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Thats still too much to ask the goverment has been pressed for this since his charade, they can't leave this to change of it doesnt happening, especially with the way the senate just approves whatever he wants and the peso kept falling
Then get used to giving him more of what he wants. Because that's what happens now. Because this didn't end when you backed down to an empty threat.
 

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Here: (Spanish) https://www.elfinanciero.com.mx/nac...-unidos-para-evitar-la-aplicacion-arancelaria

Looking for an English source, since this one is light on details but it states that Mexico will allow asylum seekers to wait in Mexico while the US processes their requests, which historically has not been accepted.
That isn't a safe third country. They can still ask for asylum in the US. Mexico is just allowing them to be in Mexico while they are waiting on a ruling for humanitarian reasons. That doesn't stop migrants from entering the country either. They have also been doing this for like 6 months now so this is nothing new.
 

Regulus Tera

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Can’t wait for Tuesday when Trump threatens tariffs again. This Mexican administration has shown they’re spineless.
 

rjinaz

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Trump gets a win. It's going to happen. Good for him and good for us. He'll have 5 losses next week. You won't see the same posters in here saying "Trump just won 2020" saying "Trump just lost 2020" then though, they will always miss those threads somehow. We're not supposed to notice I guess. I'm here in a positive Trump thread though. Weird that.
 

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Trump gets a win. It's going to happen. Good for him and good for us. He'll have 5 losses next week. You won't see the same posters in here saying "Trump just won 2020" saying "Trump just lost 2020" then though, they will always miss those threads somehow. We're not supposed to notice I guess.
The bigger story is still China and I don't think hes going to get any "wins" on that one.
 

rjinaz

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The bigger story is still China and I don't think hes going to get any "wins" on that one.
Oh he will I'm sure eventually. Throw enough shit on the wall some of it is going to stick. He'll lose there until he gets a win on some aspect of it, and we'll see the same celebrating. He'll fuck it up though, he always does, round and round we go. Think back to North Korea Peace talks. Those were interesting times around here.

Trump has handled Mexico poorly and had losses there since he was president especially in regards to immigrants crossing from there. Tarrifs, caravans, kids in cages, kids dying, molestation stories, separated parents and really we could go on. But sure, we can gloat about this here.
 

BriGuy

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Someone showed him the jobs report and told him next month and beyond would be worse if his stupid tariffs went through. I don't see how this is a victory for Trump as much as it is piece of evidence #2135668 that he's stupid, impulsive and wholly unqualified for the job.
 

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I’m glad we can occasionally get threads like these so the cryptomagas can have a chance show their asses.
 

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Some new posters in this thread. Interesting. I guess they are going back to Fox news soon.
 

NervousXtian

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Mexico allowed Trump to claim victory and he'll use this from his campaign speeches... but it was never going to happen.. and Mexico didn't really give in to anything.

Basic Trump... but his followers eat it up.
 
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And we still don’t have any real details. Sounding more and more like this wasn’t a big win for Trump. He is not the type to remain silent about getting a good deal. Even foxnews main site barely mentions it. I just see an article about a CNN panel’s different take on it. Haha