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President Shitface wants to throw homeless people into concentration camps

Oct 27, 2017
2,114
Something needs to be done. Free government housing would be great. These are not the people to do it and they will not do in an unconcentration-camp fashion.
 

Nida

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Aug 31, 2019
196
Lynnwood, Washington
It's OK, the whole point is that homeless people having phones is not weird or somehow invalidating their need.

I'm disabled and just applied for Medicaid. There are all sorts of programs for those that need them. But none that pay for the insanely high prices to rent a place in the Seattle area. They might help slightly, but I think it's only for the first month.

Cell phones are essential communication tools that everyone needs.
 

samoyed

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Oct 26, 2017
9,974
Something needs to be done. Free government housing would be great. These are not the people to do it and they will not do in an unconcentration-camp fashion.
I agree with this actually, it's far past the time the federal stepped in to address the homeless crisis but this is absolutely the worst administration that could attempt it.
 

FeistyBoots

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Oct 27, 2017
2,868
Southern California
Sadly, NIMBY assholes will love this. It's inhumane, of course, but when was "fuck you, got mine" every concerned with compassion?

I hate how the homeless are treated in this fucking country.
 

Lord of Ostia

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Oct 27, 2017
14,156
I'm disabled and just applied for Medicaid. There are all sorts of programs for those that need them. But none that pay for the insanely high prices to rent a place in the Seattle area. They might help slightly, but I think it's only for the first month.

Cell phones are essential communication tools that everyone needs.
Yeah I agree with everything you said here.
 

Krejlooc

Indie Game Dev
Verified
Oct 27, 2017
18,190
It's better in SF and Japan.




Japan's are particularly dystopian on the outside I feel like the architect was just making a joke.

Those don't look too bad, but the SF one might be better with some expectation of privacy. At least those look humane, that previous one looks degrading. Just checking -- that SF one is a candid shot, right? Not like models showing what they think people would look like using it?
 

samoyed

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Oct 26, 2017
9,974
Serious question: whatever happened to housing projects? Are they all blocked from being built by NIMBYs or something?
It's a mix of greed, NIMBYism, racism, classism and market capitalism. The ones that historically have been built were underinvested in or ran poorly, this gave them a bad reputation in the eyes of the public, this causes politicians to pull funding from those projects, which made them worse, which made their reputation worse, etc, etc. America has turned its back on housing projects.
 

girl

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Feb 21, 2018
111
At least Trump's trying. If anything now the nation's aware of California's homeless problem.
 

Helio

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Oct 28, 2017
8,583
We could literally just give homeless homes. There are more vacant homes than homeless people in the US
 

WedgeX

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Oct 27, 2017
4,454
At least Trump's trying. If anything now the nation's aware of California's homeless problem.
Is he, though? Every one of his funding proposals has cut federal rental assistance drastically and proposed eliminating the agency that coordinates the federal response to homelessness.
 

Chikor

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Oct 26, 2017
3,806
Serious question: whatever happened to housing projects? Are they all blocked from being built by NIMBYs or something?
Nickled and dimed for years by congress, then mostly gutted by Bill "the era of big government is over" Clinton with the Quality Housing and Work Responsibility Act of 1998. You can tell by the name how awful it is.

Those programs are not dead, there is still federal money for public housing, but those programs have been intentionally sabotaged and diverted from their original mission for decades, and they're just kinda shit now.
 

smurfx

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Oct 25, 2017
3,575
oh wonder which private prison corporation is floating this idea to him. guess imprisoning migrants isn't bringing in enough money.
 
Dec 31, 2017
1,387
How are you jumping to concentration camps?

The homeless crisis in Cali is staggering. Not that I trust this fed govt to do right by it, but drastic measures need to be taken. At face value I see little wrong with this. In implementation is will be a bad faith shit show.
 

samoyed

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Oct 26, 2017
9,974
There's absolute 0 chance this turns out well. The only silver lining I can think of is if Warren or Bernie inherits this mess they can actually expand it into a functional reintegration program for the homeless.

A lot of "liberal" landowners in Californa are suddenly going to feel a lot more positively about Trump. He's delivering to them the thing they always wanted but never dared to suggest.
 

Macam

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Nov 8, 2018
108
We could literally just give homeless homes. There are more vacant homes than homeless people in the US
Housing First initiatives are proven to be effective and work, but tend to be politically unpalatable because people love to criminalize and demonize poor people. The puritanical approach that tends to force people with addiction problems to get clean first or seek mental help somehow or get jobs first or whatever generally tends to fail and be more expensive because, hey, these people don’t have shelter, which tends to exacerbate the issues, make them hard to track and provide services to, and is generally at odds with proven ways of dealing with the broad set of issues that can lead to homelessness. States and municipalities can try to mitigate the issue, but will inevitably be unable to resolve the issue single-handedly.

Trump has no plan. It’s a political maneuver that has no legal basis and will do absolutely nothing on the issue (see also, every single other problem he tries to “fix”). Ben Carson at HUD and his nutjob policies which are basically all anti-housing will probably create more homeless people than anything he’s trying to solve (Exhibit A of Carson’s incompetence).

The issue requires federal funding & long term commitment and prioritization, along with cooperation with states and local governments, absolutely none of which will happen under this administration. The son of a racist slumlord that’s inherited all his wealth and can’t run a casino isn’t going to solve this problem anymore than he solved North Korea.
 

Lord of Ostia

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Oct 27, 2017
14,156
I didn't say they weren't but the people that we're talking about sure don't think the homeless population is largely white. They think it's addicts and the mentally ill and largely people of color. Y'all kill me with these knee jerk reactions.
It's not a knee jerk reaction, it's just a fact. They don't care if the homeless are white or not, because once someone is homeless they become an 'undesirable' and are thus dehumanized. The Nazis put the homeless in concentration camps regardless of race or sex or orientation or creed. It's definitely a situation exacerbated by racism but it's ultimately a hatred of the poor for being poor.
 

Vagabundo

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Oct 27, 2017
951
Build mixed communities, provide social housing, provide health, education and employment services. That's how you solve 90%+ of homelessness.
 

Emergency & I

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Oct 27, 2017
4,040
Truth is the homeless issue in LA is getting worse.The democratic leadership that focused on it, completely failed. They threw a bunch of money at it, in the wrong way, and things got worse.

Trump has no cache in the field but it’d be foolish to not, at least, listen to whatever likely garbage plan he has. The City deserves it because Gavin Newsome really shit the bed. Democratic leadership in CA needs to get better, quickly.
 

Lord of Ostia

Member
Oct 27, 2017
14,156
Truth is the homeless issue in LA is getting worse.The democratic leadership that focused on it, completely failed. They threw a bunch of money at it, in the wrong way, and things got worse.

Trump has no cache in the field but it’d be foolish to not, at least, listen to whatever likely garbage plan he has. The City deserves it because Gavin Newsome really shit the bed. Democratic leadership in CA needs to get better, quickly.
His plan is to imprison them in federal facilities, likely run by private contractors. No, that's not worth listening to.