This is why I don't understand why English-speaking folks even try to use it when we already have a term there that's much more organic.
I've had this discussion several times, including people of other Hispanic countries and even binary Hispanics and the universal consensus is that latinx is a fucking stupid term.
Apparently according to this thread you aren't part of the culture.... you're just American or something lol
So do American Spanish speakers not count for shit or something?
Never cared for it myself
Sounds like a term created by white liberals
Spanish isn't monolithic and even among spanish speaking dialects in the Americas, there is enormous variation. The term "Latinx", suggested to be pronounced "latin-ecks" displays a huge slant towards US Spanish compared to, say, castillian spanish. Hence why people are pointing out how US centric the term is. You could pronounced "latinx" like 3 different ways and they'd all be "spanish" depending on where you are from.
Ic icAs in by the US government or the dominant culture group in the US....
The post I was replying too was literally going off on fucking foreign policy, white liberals and the the arrogance of the United States as a country.... Those aren't the groups that crafted this term.
Who said it was monolithic but literally a shit ton of posts are acting like the term wasn't created by people within the community, that it's some white liberal American imperialism....
People aren't simply pointing out it's US centric they're acting like it's Imperialism at work
Latinx is just more (cultural) imperialism by the usual suspect, the USA.
Instead of despoiling the soil of Latin America with blood spilled by right-wing death squads and American-bought arms, now the liberals of America attempt to rewrite someone else's language to conform to their own ivory tower ideals to be "morally correct."
Is the United States the most arrogant country ever?
Not sure if serious...
The literal definition of Latino is someone who is Latin American.
Someone who is not Latin American wouldn't be a Latino.
"It's stupid, only white liberals use it"
*Numerous people attest to using it that are a part of the culture in question*
"So dumb, only white people use it"
Let's not even bother to entertain the "I don't like it, non-binary people should use this word I prefer" takes.
I'm a white guy so there's not really too much I can really add or say but most people I know of Latin American heritage or origin use Hispanic to describe themselves and I've personally only heard Latinx be used on college campuses or very certain events
I don't see what's so hard with the understanding that o and a both can apply to males, females, and gender neutral depending on the context.
YOU replied calling it garbage, and YOU brought up White People to that poster.
Believe it or not, hispanics in the US, still count as the US.
Because it actually manifests in tangible, problematic ways. There is inherent bias in gendered languages when multiple translations are applied. The same sentence becomes radically different when translations are applied multiple times if just the gender of the subject changes, that are very harmful. The classic example, "he is a doctor, she is a nurse" for the same sentence.
Im actually a guy and ive had people who dont even speak spanish try to tell me i cant call myself latino on this very board.
Thanks for responding.
So to be clear, your saying the problem presents itself when a Spanish sentence is translated into another language?
That sounds infuriating.
I'm in the camp that can appreciate that the term has value as a gender neutral pronoun, but please don't tell me that we have to abolish Latino/a in favor of it. Especially if you're not Latin/o/a/x.
Never heard of the folx term.Is this why I sometimes see folx on here instead of folks?
Are we at the point where we tell people to change their languages? Good luck changing all those heavily gendered languages
Seems to be a bit of a recurring theme these days with white people trying to be woke
Seems to be a bit of a recurring theme these days with white people trying to be woke
Always thought it was really presumptuous for English speakers to try to replace the words Latino/a for their own version. Insulting even. So yeah, not surprised, lol.
Progress also has some dead ends. People can say a term sounds stupid but it doesn't mean they hate the progress Finding something everyone can accept is easy if the people that like Latinx aren't stubborn
Right because American liberals isn't a thinly veiled, "someone else's language", cultural imperialism, etc...
Come on. Though fine it's even worse if that post acknowledges who invented the term and still considers it American arrogance and Imperialism. It's one thing if the person thinks white liberals made it up it's another thing entirely if they know they didn't and still consider it an act of fucking American Imperalism