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ProJared Allegedly Creeped On, Fished for & Sent Nudes to Fans, including Underaged Fans [UP: ProJared responds, see threadmarks]

Apr 14, 2019
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Remember how Nick Robinson was exposed as a serial creep because the Switch port of Overcooked was bad?
The only good thing about that is that i only liked the stuff that he did with Griffin, and it was Griffin i liked the best and still like particularly after he stopped doing anything with Nick.

As far as i know, Griffin is still a really good boy who just happens to make monsters when he creates characters.
 
Nov 3, 2017
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Jared wrecked that home pretty thoroughly himself.

I'm a little uncomfortable with people going after Holly like they smelled blood in the water to be honest. There is a mountain of evidence about how particularly emotionally manipulative that dude is. Also that he was unfortunately kind of effective at it.

Dunno, maybe y'all are totally on the money, but I think it might be better to focus on the actual proven perpetrator here.
In what possible version of events is Holly not a perpetrator?

How do you innocently fuck your friends husband?

Sure it pales in comparison to the shit Jared was doing, but what’s the worth in downplaying that Holly’s actions were incredibly shitty?

It is pure speculation that actively goes against what Heidi has stated to assume that she was manipulated or coerced into cheating or something. Are you actually getting that from anywhere?

The woman shouldn’t be actively harassed of course, but I just don’t get why anyone is trying to downplay her actions based on what we know. Especially considering the evidence that she passed the information on Jared’s victims on to him against their will, which would actually make her complicit in the worst things that Jared has done.
 
Nov 1, 2017
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Long story short: Overcooked on Switch came out all fucked up, Nick Robinson got weirdly aggressive towards the devs on it, someone tweeted something like “Maybe he could help the devs if he wasn’t sliding into DMs all the time” and it snowballed from there.
 
Remember how Nick Robinson was exposed as a serial creep because the Switch port of Overcooked was bad?
It was a real bummer to see him turn out to be a creep. I used to watch him when he was part of Rev3 and appreciated that he would cover and talk about Bemani when virtually no one else in US games journalism would.

Creeps suck. Nick's behavior is something he should have had a harsh lesson on before he got out of High School...I know I did, and I still carry a significant amount of self-loathing into adulthood because of that.
 
Dec 4, 2018
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People, we live in a modern society, stoning for cheating ain't a thing anymore. Yeah, it's bad, we know, but it's not a crime. Let people atone those things away from attention. This is in general. Now about the fact that she told Jared about a victim...
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I am kinda flabbergasted that people focus more on cheating than the sexual stuff with minors.
If there is proof, he should be prosecuted.
 
Jan 6, 2018
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Who gives a shit about cheating, or who slept with who. Those are just personal relationship problems or people being shitty. Nothing of our concern.

The discussion should sit firmly on his acts towards minors, followed by his grooming and abuse of power.
 
Oct 28, 2017
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Except Holly & Heidi were both very good friends. Would you sleep with the partner of your very good friend? Do you think it takes a shitty person to do that? the same kind of shitty person who runs away to hide once the truth emerges and they release they cannot manipulate the situation.
Yeah. Sure. I also feel that it's not really any of my business to condemn a woman on the other side of the world for that.

Jared on the other hand preyed on and manipulated vulnerable people. He made a community that I am (very broadly) a part of less safe. I feel like it is a lot more important to focus on that aspect of it.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Who gives a shit about cheating, or who slept with who. Those are just personal relationship problems or people being shitty. Nothing of our concern.

The discussion should sit firmly on his acts towards minors, followed by his grooming and abuse of power.
Pretty much this, Some posters even focused more on his skin colour than the actual fact his a paedophile and that should be the focus here.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Here’s the thing with the Holly situation. I can totally buy that Jared manipulated that situation to his advantage. BUT at the end of the day Holly knew he was still married to her friend. Yet she did it multiple times. And even now she offers “support” for Jared.

She shouldn’t be thrown in jail but any flak she’s getting is of her and Jared’s own doing.

Now Jared needs to go to jail if he sent and received pics from underage fans.
 
Nov 2, 2017
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Holy shit this is fucked up. Wow
Dude is DONE!

Some posts in here are also weirding me out. You dont know these people, stop being so personally involved. Reads like a harlequin book discussion thread.
 

Francesco

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Nov 22, 2017
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Jared wrecked that home pretty thoroughly himself.

I'm a little uncomfortable with people going after Holly like they smelled blood in the water to be honest. There is a mountain of evidence about how particularly emotionally manipulative that dude is. Also that he was unfortunately kind of effective at it.

Dunno, maybe y'all are totally on the money, but I think it might be better to focus on the actual proven perpetrator here.
Poor girl, she was emotionally induced into fucking her friend’s husband for months!
The number of people defending this woman like this guy drugged her is astonishing.
 
Oct 28, 2017
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Yeah. Sure. I also feel that it's not really any of my business to condemn a woman on the other side of the world for that.

Jared on the other hand preyed on and manipulated vulnerable people. He made a community that I am (very broadly) a part of less safe. I feel like it is a lot more important to focus on that aspect of it.
youre absolutely right, and too many people (myself included, tbf) focused a little overmuch in the infidelity at first. the fact is, he shoule be castigated and held accountable for his abuse and sexual/emotional manipulation of minors, first, foremost, and only, full stop.

having said that, anyone with eyes in their head can see Holly's part - however small - in that and hold her accountable. the fact that some of the minor victims came forward to Holly and a few other trusted people with information and receipts about Jared's solicitation, only for Holly to turn around and feed that information to Jared without consent, is intrinsically linked to that aspect of this situation.

and as an aside, on the concept of emotional manipulation, something that seems lost in the torrent of all this is that Heidi has named Holly as the aggressor in the affair. its clear to me - however "Conspiracy Theorist" it seems - that if the above (Holly being an emotional lead/aggressor in the affair) is True, then it stands to reason that both she and Jared were actively working privately to perpetuate a narrative painting Heidi in a poor light - the idea that she was emotionally and mentally abusive to Jared, for one - (based on revelations of the way he discussed his marriage with confidants over the months) creating a foundation for what would be the endgame of their future relationship. that is just as emotionally manipulative as anything Jared did on his own to his other victims.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Jared wrecked that home pretty thoroughly himself.

I'm a little uncomfortable with people going after Holly like they smelled blood in the water to be honest. There is a mountain of evidence about how particularly emotionally manipulative that dude is. Also that he was unfortunately kind of effective at it.

Dunno, maybe y'all are totally on the money, but I think it might be better to focus on the actual proven perpetrator here.
Brah she wasn't tricked into thinking he wasn't married she knew, they were *friends* for as long time, the cheating was over several months over half a year supposedly. Silly to derail the thread yourself about Holly then say we should all focus on Jared.
 
Feb 24, 2018
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Feel like this thread might need to close, at least untl new information is brought up, it feels like we've moved from any meaningful conversation and we're now going into shitposting, honestly some borderline pro-Transphobia and anti-crossdressing territory and petty name calling.
 
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Thanatos

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Oct 25, 2017
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Here’s the thing with the Holly situation. I can totally buy that Jared manipulated that situation to his advantage. BUT at the end of the day Holly knew he was still married to her friend. Yet she did it multiple times. And even now she offers “support” for Jared.

She shouldn’t be thrown in jail but any flak she’s getting is of her and Jared’s own doing.

Now Jared needs to go to jail if he sent and received pics from underage fans.
If the accusations of her trying to silence victims is true, and any of those people were the underage victims he was preying on, she belongs under the jail right next to him.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Yeah. Sure. I also feel that it's not really any of my business to condemn a woman on the other side of the world for that.

Jared on the other hand preyed on and manipulated vulnerable people. He made a community that I am (very broadly) a part of less safe. I feel like it is a lot more important to focus on that aspect of it.
Really? It's not about whose business it might be, because it's real easy to put a homewrecker on blast even if they're the lesser of two evils here.

Cheating sucks. Being a homewrecker sucks. Child porn is orders of magnitude worse than the two of those combined - but that doesn't make the cheating part just unimpeachable and uncondemnable (and this is before even getting into the silencing stuff she was apparently doing). There are multiple bad things going on here.
 
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Nov 22, 2017
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If the accusations of her trying to silence victims is true, and any of those people were the underage victims he was preying on, she belongs under the jail right next to him.
Thank you for saying this, the fact that people are totally ignoring how some evidence is pointing out that Holly tried to silenced the victims and shared their personal information with Jared is pretty jarring.
 
Nov 3, 2017
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Thank you for saying this, the fact that people are totally ignoring how some evidence is pointing out that Holly tried to silenced the victims and shared their personal information with Jared is pretty jarring.
A lot of people are quick to condemn those discussing the cheating but completely omit the abuse of Heidi Jared was committing alongside it or Holly’s potential involvement in Jared’s predatory interactions with fans.

There’s no split of “bad things we should discuss” and “bad things we can’t”, it’s all interlinked. The only reason this thread has started discussing Holly and the affair so much recently is because of the sudden influx of people trying to downplay Jared’s abuse as “none of our business”.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I question the legality of Holly's actions if she had been trying to silence Jared's victims.

I am not a lawyer or a man of the law so I don't know what she'd be charged with? Attempt to cover up a crime?

Another thing I don't get is why on earth did Holly not run to the hills when fans especially underage ones had come forward about the abuse? Did she just assume "fake news"/"Bitches want Jared's clout?"
 
Nov 3, 2017
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I question the legality of Holly's actions if she had been trying to silence Jared's victims.

I am not a lawyer or a man of the law so I don't know what she'd be charged with? Attempt to cover up a crime?

Another thing I don't get is why on earth did Holly not run to the hills when fans especially underage ones had come forward about the abuse? Did she just assume "fake news"/"Bitches want Jared's clout?"
The simplest and most likely answer is just that she didn’t care. And not necessarily in like, a Disney villain evil way, but more in a “well Jared wants to apologise to them so I’ll let him deal with it” way.
 
Apr 14, 2019
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Why did someone think it was a good idea to post that Sailor Mercury photo!?

Anyways, still didn't ruin the best Sailor Scout for me, Sailor Mercury is 2D and looks nothing like Jared, not even her live-action version:

I just don't want to look at Jared at what seems to be a sexy photo, and considering the contexts at which he was sending those kinds of photos i really don't want to see that, i mean, yeah, he's cosplaying, but that pose though...then again, he isn't smiling or anything so was that just some photo he shared to everyone on Twitter?
 
Dec 10, 2018
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Oh! I know what ill be doing with my taxes this year then.
It's a tactic that many people do, especially politicians. They rely on people's attention spans to wander and forget over time, giving them a chance to slowly weasel back into society like nothing happened. I wouldn't be surprised if Holly is trying this age old hand of cards.
 
Apr 14, 2019
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Pfft, Sailor Mercury is still the best, as a young boy that was nerdy and a bit shy, she was my favorite and still is, though, let's be fair, she is not the best anime/manga character with the name of a planet/star, no character in Sailor Moon is, everyone knows that honor goes to Tentai Senshi Sunred.

I mean, when ceiling monsters from evil organizations that want to conquer Earth make songs about you, you know you're awesome!
 
Dec 10, 2018
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This dude ain't dropping under 800k. Subloss is slowing down alot.
YouTube hasn't exactly distanced themselves from him either. When Logan Paul can film corpses and taze rats while retaining a platform. Will YouTube care about removing a pedophile? They really should. Amos Yee was banned for hinting at pedophilia and Jared should follow.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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I just don't want to look at Jared at what seems to be a sexy photo, and considering the contexts at which he was sending those kinds of photos i really don't want to see that, i mean, yeah, he's cosplaying, but that pose though...then again, he isn't smiling or anything so was that just some photo he shared to everyone on Twitter?
Yeah, it was a public photo from his instagram from a while ago.
 
Long story short: Overcooked on Switch came out all fucked up, Nick Robinson got weirdly aggressive towards the devs on it, someone tweeted something like “Maybe he could help the devs if he wasn’t sliding into DMs all the time” and it snowballed from there.
I always assumed people who say Overcooked is the kind of game that can destroy relationships were just exaggerating.