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ProJared Allegedly Creeped On, Fished for & Sent Nudes to Fans, including Underaged Fans [UP: ProJared responds, see threadmarks]

Oct 28, 2017
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That's good that it's not effecting her views. Probably easier to stand out, but it is a shame that her hand was forced into it either way.

The aforementioned video where she talks about changing the focus of the channel. Nothing about PJ in the video, obviously. Or at least, none that I remember. Certainly not by name.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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youtube as a whole has become a cess pool as more and more people chase it for gain. the amount of people who try feeding off these peoples actions and the "tea" to get subs/views themselves just add to the growing pile of shit its become. scrolling through my feed/recommended videos anymore feels like im watching daytime tv.

at this rate the theme park vloggers are the last group of "wholesomeness" i enjoy on youtube and drama there over silly bs is making me want to just delete the site from the internet.
 
Oct 30, 2017
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at this rate the theme park vloggers are the last group of "wholesomeness" i enjoy on youtube and drama there over silly bs is making me want to just delete the site from the internet.

But even then did you see that Jenn Tracker was attacked for simply announcing that she was pregnant? like most of the themepark community is great but, there are still some bad eggs. i dont think the whole platform should be shoved down the toilet.
 
Oct 29, 2017
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I know I shouldn't be surprised after Laci Green but it's still so damn astounding when female content creators who seem so wholesome suddenly reveal an unprecedented level of scumbaggery. Like if you'd have told freaking Commander Holly was enabling her lover's pedophilia, I would have thought it was an insane, strange joke. Yet here we are.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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I don't usually scour content creators' social media pages, so I could be wrong here, but I thought her shift to 80s-90s TV shows was just a personal preference. I remember there were a couple videos where she mentioned video games were a minor hobby compared to her other interests, so she wanted to take this turn to reviewing random episodes of Murder She Wrote intentionally.

And to be honest, I now have an interest in Murder She Heckin' Wrote, so she's doing something right there.
I meant this tweet in particular, part of the ProJared discussion but involving a different person:

 
Apr 14, 2019
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Yeah, thats the plan im counting on too. Didnt JonTron pretty much do the exact same thing? disappear from youtube for a few months and then reappear like nothing ever happened?
That's not unusual for Jontron though, i remember when i followed him that he wasn't exactly posting videos every week or month, so i guess things stayed the same then?

I don't know, i unsubscribed to him a long time ago, but he wasn't exactly posting videos left and right
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Pat Contri posted the first part of the latest episode of his podcast to YouTube earlier, and in it, he talks about his personal relationship to Jared (they were friends for several years, and Pat was one of the ones that encouraged Jared to make videos early on). He also talks about the incident where he really first saw signs that Jared was, at the absolute minimum, an egotistical jerk. He lays it all out in the video, but basically, Pat, Jared, and Brentalfloss were all working together on an MST3K-style comedy bit that they could potentially tour around conventions, but Jared apparently got jealous and saw himself as above the other two and dropped out of their arrangement after the first show (they had planned a six-month minimum test run of the idea). Pat never really spoke to Jared after that, but his podcast partner Ian didn't have much to say about Jared other than Jared always treated him like a dick. Pat also apparently had early warning that Heidi was going to bring something about Jared to light, though he obviously didn't know the details as to what until everything happened.

Also, by total coincidence, Jared's implosion happened on Pat's birthday.

 
Oct 27, 2017
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That's not unusual for Jontron though, i remember when i followed him that he wasn't exactly posting videos every week or month, so i guess things stayed the same then?

I don't know, i unsubscribed to him a long time ago, but he wasn't exactly posting videos left and right
John Tron was basically vanished off youtube for a year. I had stopped watching all his old content after he showed his true self but I stayed subbed just incase. Finally unsubbed when he started posing again like nothing happened.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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I’m watching it right now. It mostly seemed like Pat was venting over how Jared treated him and Brent rather than the allegations directly.
Yeah, he doesn't speak much to the allegations, but that seems more or less because they're already well enough known that if you're watching the video, you probably don't need them explained to you, and he wouldn't have much to say about them any other than of course the allegations are awful. So while the video is definitely his personal venting, it is justified in the sense that he's opening up about Jared regarding matters that, while incredibly minor in comparison to the actual crimes Jared may have committed (next to the many, many receipts backing those allegations up), he does bring another perspective of a former friend that Jared betrayed and treated poorly, despite said friend being to a certain extent instrumental in his becoming a YouTube star in the first place.
 
Nov 2, 2017
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I’m watching it right now. It mostly seemed like Pat was venting over how Jared treated him and Brent rather than the allegations directly.
There's not much to the video other than speculation about Jared's ego being a contributing factor in this whole mess. Their comments about not worshipping minor celebrities blindly make sense though.
 
John Tron was basically vanished off youtube for a year. I had stopped watching all his old content after he showed his true self but I stayed subbed just incase. Finally unsubbed when he started posing again like nothing happened.
I remember he put up an apology video and I figured this was him backtracking his comments and trying to make it right...

...But it was just an apology for not putting anything up for a while with absolutely no mention of the incident or his comments. Basically just a typical "Sorry I've been so busy. Now I promise to upload more." video.

All his videos now are just reviews of shitty movies or infomercials. So I have no regrets in unsubscribing. I used to rewatch Stairfax Temperatures and Nuts and Bolts all the time before the incident.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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I remember he put up an apology video and I figured this was him backtracking his comments and trying to make it right...

...But it was just an apology for not putting anything up for a while with absolutely no mention of the incident or his comments. Basically just a typical "Sorry I've been so busy. Now I promise to upload more." video.

All his videos now are just reviews of shitty movies or infomercials. So I have no regrets in unsubscribing. I used to rewatch Stairfax Temperatures and Nuts and Bolts all the time before the incident.
I would regularly rewatch his content as backgound noise at work and while gaming pretty much all the time. It was so strange dropping him but I just couldn't watch him anymore.
 
Nov 18, 2017
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User Banned (1 Month): Posting content with racist rhetoric; Prior severe infraction.
I remember he put up an apology video and I figured this was him backtracking his comments and trying to make it right...

...But it was just an apology for not putting anything up for a while with absolutely no mention of the incident or his comments. Basically just a typical "Sorry I've been so busy. Now I promise to upload more." video.
He did put up an apology though its right here:

Mod Edit: Content removed. We do no provide a platform for JonTron or their content on the forum.
 
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Oct 25, 2017
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I’m watching it right now. It mostly seemed like Pat was venting over how Jared treated him and Brent rather than the allegations directly.
That is Pat. That dude has always been fairly egotistical. If he is going to talk about anything he is going to do his best to talk about himself in the process. It is just who he is.

However, it is still interesting in its own way. It also does give us a little insight into who Jared was off camera.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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That is Pat. That dude has always been fairly egotistical. If he is going to talk about anything he is going to do his best to talk about himself in the process. It is just who he is.

However, it is still interesting in its own way. It also does give us a little insight into who Jared was off camera.
Don’t forget about plugging the Ultimate guide as well.

It was certainly an interesting anecdote to hear though.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Don’t forget about plugging the Ultimate guide as well.

It was certainly an interesting anecdote to hear though.
To be fair, his comments particularly toward the end of the video make it clear that he's self-aware of his own ego and personality, and plugging his own book on his own podcast isn't exactly a weird thing, either. The thing is, a person can have a big ego and also not be a scumbag.

Jared's ego is apparently the size of Jupiter and his scumbaggery is, well, we know what that's like at this point.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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To be fair, his comments particularly toward the end of the video make it clear that he's self-aware of his own ego and personality, and plugging his own book on his own podcast isn't exactly a weird thing, either. The thing is, a person can have a big ego and also not be a scumbag.

Jared's ego is apparently the size of Jupiter and his scumbaggery is, well, we know what that's like at this point.
Slightly off topic. But after watching the video...im curious to know who some of the other asshole content creators he eludes to knowing lol.
 
No opinions on ProJared as I don't follow his work, but I feel gross that I once had sympathy for Holly Conrad. She really seemed to have a lot of psychological problems for some time, battling depression and other similar issues, but now as far as I'm concerned that was all an act to gain said sympathy.
Even if she fucked up, and she did, that isn't cause to assume that her mental illness isn't real. Mentally ill people can fuck up and be shit too.
Hey folks, typing this up the day after I was banned so apologies if something has changed contextually since writing it. I’m editing my original post as well as quoting it and the one user (A.By) that quoted it for context.

I attempted to contact moderators though various avenues after I was banned, but unfortunately after being banned there’s really no reliable way to do so, so I had no choice but to sit it out and wait.

Anywho, I wanted to explain my post, as I don’t want to carry any sort of negative stigma from here on out, and I don’t want anyone having the wrong idea of my opinions and beliefs.

I was not intending to imply that Holly’s psychological illnesses were an act to garner any sort of sympathy from the general public, and I’m not trying to imply any of it was “made up.” As someone with his own set of issues I’m all too familiar with the struggles an individual can have without anyone realizing it.

My implication was that Holly very much as generated a “Manic Pixie Dream Girl” image for herself on the internet, and it feels very much that the person anyone that followed her thought she actually was is very much different than the person that she actually is. This often tends to happen in situations where an individual commits a heinous act and friends and family that only knew them on a surface level (internet followers, in this case) are often confused by their actions, as it doesn’t line up with the person they thought they knew.
In short, I, like many others, thought she was a decent person, but that doesn’t seem to be the case.

That’s the only “act” that I meant, not that the mental illness was an act. Unfortunately I realized too late after the fact that my post could have been misinterpreted and I was banned before I had the time to edit my post.

Thanks for your time.
 
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I'm getting the sense at this point that YouTube will do nothing about ProJared?

One thing that still fascinates me is how his fanbase reacted to this compared to other fandoms of YouTube creators. Did PJ out of curiosity attract a smaller amount of Alt-right and gamergate fans compared to others?

And also, if I recall last year, most of Heidi's stuff was destroyed, especially her livelihood and other cosplay gear because of flooding, did this happen before or after? Either way, I can imagine how devastating that is to lose most of what's taken you years to build up then find out/while your husband cheats on you.
 
I don't think there'll be a point to take him down. I can't see him uploading anymore after this anyway if he ends up being put away. Eventually the algorithm will stop recommending him. He'll disappear into the ether in time.

I never saw Jared as someone who would attract the alt-right crowd. Jon only got a huge following of them after he made his stupid views clear enough. Maybe I'm wrong.

I remember the flood. The video he put up where he explains what happened. How it happened like literally right before they moved into a new house. And how his stuff was still safe. I'd assume it happened before this all happened. At least before Heidi knew anything was going on. Who knows.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Is there a source on this? I looked at his subreddit briefly and didn't see anything like that.

the person stating it was a message to him

Etika not denying it, but saying show more of the convo. He mistakens it by stating its a screeshot, when what was shown was a video portion of the actual exchange.

https://www.reddit.com/r/EtikaReddi...st_saw_this_on_insta_and_im_not_sure_if_yall/
The reddit post that brought this to light with the video of some of conversation where he asking for the minor's body (or see their body) is there as well.

if the video was deleted from the reddit post (a mod im assuming was him was blocking and deleting posts from the reddit earlier) here is a tweet that has it there.

i been trying to find more myself, but the fact he isn't denying it speaks volumes already.
 

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the person stating it was a message to him

Etika not denying it, but saying show more of the convo. He mistakens it by stating its a screeshot, when what was shown was a video portion of the actual exchange.

https://www.reddit.com/r/EtikaReddi...st_saw_this_on_insta_and_im_not_sure_if_yall/
The reddit post that brought this to light with the video of some of conversation where he asking for the minor's body (or see their body) is there as well.

if the video was deleted from the reddit post (a mod im assuming was him was blocking and deleting posts from the reddit earlier) here is a tweet that has it there.

i been trying to find more myself, but the fact he isn't denying it speaks volumes already.
Jesus that's really fucked up and incredibly damming evidence so far.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Jesus that's really fucked up and incredibly damming evidence so far.
yep. Some more posts were recently deleted and i noticed a thread or two are gone now from the reddit so not entirely sure what else came out. One thing for sure though is that he did that, not sure if much more will come out or if this will blow up beyond here tbh, i seen the yesmen in his community come out to defend him on twitter and reddit and I got some interactions on social media from his yesmen supporters..

hoping this will eventually catch wind and go out there.
 
Oct 29, 2017
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They barely did anything to that unbelievably racist 14 year old girl channel why would you think Youtube will do anything to Jared's?
I guess YT is just cool with content creators soliciting the minors in their audience. Still remember when they restricted LGBTQ+ content and in the face of this and last month's shit with PDP, it just gets more and more clear where their priorities lie.
 
I guess YT is just cool with content creators soliciting the minors in their audience. Still remember when they restricted LGBTQ+ content and in the face of this and last month's shit with PDP, it just gets more and more clear where their priorities lie.
Sadly, I think this is social media in general now, you have Twitter banning people for calling Terfs Terf while openly allowing white supremacists, racist etc to run around abusing people and Reddit refusing to remove pro gamergate subreddits like Kotaku in Action. They all seems to want them running around the place for short term gains, not caring about the moral thing or destroying their own reputation.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I guess YT is just cool with content creators soliciting the minors in their audience. Still remember when they restricted LGBTQ+ content and in the face of this and last month's shit with PDP, it just gets more and more clear where their priorities lie.
Youtube doesn't give a fuck, unless it's actively hurting their bottom line (like if advertisers start complaining). They are the fucking worst.
 
Dec 1, 2017
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I don't think there'll be a point to take him down. I can't see him uploading anymore after this anyway if he ends up being put away. Eventually the algorithm will stop recommending him. He'll disappear into the ether in time.

I never saw Jared as someone who would attract the alt-right crowd. Jon only got a huge following of them after he made his stupid views clear enough. Maybe I'm wrong.
He was a self-proclaimed feminist, so the alt-right was never on his side. They just want him to fail, and use him as an example of male feminists being hypocrites. He has no chance of coming back, and if he does only ridicule will await him. He ain't no Vic with his mindless hoard of sheeps.