Sigh. What a fucking trash fire.
This is totally me being a generalizing ass, but why is it that every "professional-grade" cosplayer I've ever met has been just an awful person?
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This is totally me being a generalizing ass, but why is it that every "professional-grade" cosplayer I've ever met has been just an awful person?
Heidi seems pretty alright to me. I have yet to hear anything bad about Jessica Nigri, and some others.
Nerds and teenagers online love drama among "internet personalities/Youtube people"
Its the modern day equivalent of the bullshit like this.
And if you are into it then, well...
There's sadly plenty outside of youtube too but youtubers get more attention when they're found out.
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You're mixing up Heidi and Holly, I think. Heidi literally had no knowledge of the minors getting dick-pics and demanded Jared stop sharing his pics with adult fans after their polyamorous experiment ended. Holly is the one who did know and aided Jared.
Yes, theres a lot out there but i guess this is like religion, they have access to underage kids so they take the advantage.
Holly's a cosplayer too. Dunno how active she is with all of that, anymore, but it's easy to find on Google and she's credited as such on various wikis.
Anyway like I said, I'm generalizing and being an ass, so I know this is untrue. Also probably injecting some personal salt about an ex. I, too, have heard Nigri is a nice person. Mind you, though, that's one (or two, if Heidi is included) in a sea of them.
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Ah, I always sort of considered her a content creator first and a cosplayer second. But fair enough.
Flipside I've only heard of a handful of rotten apples. But that's getting off topic.
"Hiding out in a different state"... He knows he's in trouble then.
What I don't get is....how does Holly not understand that you can still cheat when in an open relationship?
Open relationships rarely mean, "do whatever the hell you want".
Open relationships often have very strict and laid out rules to follow to respect both people in the relationship. It was very clear from the texts that Holly posted that Jared was not respecting the boundaries and was HIDING shit from Heidi about it. Most people I know in open relationships survive and thrive in them with complete transparency and honesty, something that Jared clearly wasn't doing.
Open relationships rarely mean, "do whatever the hell you want".
Open relationships often have very strict and laid out rules to follow to respect both people in the relationship. It was very clear from the texts that Holly posted that Jared was not respecting the boundaries and was HIDING shit from Heidi about it. Most people I know in open relationships survive and thrive in them with complete transparency and honesty, something that Jared clearly wasn't doing.
For all we know it's really Jared using Holly's phone.
It's probably the most charitable reading of the current situation.
Remember when people here acted like both Jared and Heidi were terrible?
If they are separated and she lived elsewhere at the time it’s still morally wrong.
She's not breaking in, though. Her name is on the lease and she has a key. Also, what the fuck would Jared care? He's hiding in another state.
Aside from a few idiots, most of us were and are on Heidi's side
If she has a key and is on the lease she's not breaking into shit.
This is my thinking too. I've been in and out of this thread since it started and everyone is focusing discussing the relationship side, and nothing on the actually really serious side.
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That’s not my point. She went back to their “home” with intent to steal. He’s a peace of shit. And I hope she rots, but she coming off as real vindictive. My Roomate and his girlfriend broke up. She was on the lease but moved before getting off of it. One day while him and I were at work she went to the house and took his ps4 and switch she got him for Christmas and she used the same arguments y’all are.
It's her stuff too by law, if it's stuff that was acquired during their marriage she's entitled to half of it.
You roommate and his girlfriend weren't married so I fail to see how your anecdote applies.
They have a child together and were engaged. Been together 8 years were arguing semantics though I’m off this.
You know that boyfriend and girlfriend vs man and wife are not remotely the same thing right
Yeah still on Heidis side she has keys and her name is on the lease if she went back to grab stuff that belonged to her as well it's her apartment too.
And honestly I would have gladly driven a whole truck while she is loading shit up.
So abuse is not “serious” to you or something?
What is it with this website sometimes? If this was just about abuse everyone would rightfully be on his case, but somehow the fact that he’s done something worse with the pedophilia means that he gets a pass on abuse. It’s insane.
I at least sort of get the “I demand you focus on this part rather than this part” bit as like, people like to tell others that they’re wrong, but the number of people popping in to tell us all about how his abuse doesn’t matter, I’m just shocked.
She's entitled to collecting things that belong to her from a residence that she has legal access to..
Also, what the fuck is wrong with you?
Are... are you implying that it’s not an issue until someone gets beaten?
We are not.
Marriage carry some obligations that concubinage does not.
This is one of the many differences.
There's a reason LGBT+ people wanted to get the right for marriage after all.
I've seen people talking about everything, to be honest. Is there anyone here that isn't aware of him soliciting nudes from underage fans and sending his own nudes to them? What aren't people saying about it that needs to be said?
They been together 8 years and have a child. I got married and divorced in half that time. I don’t understand the desire to overlook shitty choices because the other person made shittier ones. She tried to steal his gold play button. That was unnecessarily petty I’m not gonna gloss over that. The law was on her side. Sure, but why not just kill him with success? Take his play button just to screw him? It’s a bad look. And seeing how I just witnessed a similar and messy situation. Also stop acting like it’s an entirely different thing. His girlfriend was in the lease. He called the cops but they couldn’t do anything. She only took the shit she knew he enjoyed not to mention not letting him see his son(lonnng story) atleast my Roomate’s girlfriend/baby mother paid for the thing she intended to take.
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I'm not saying that. But for me, if you boil it down to its most simple forms you have:
1. Being unfaithful and disgusting towards his wife
2. Sending explicit messages and photopraphs to underage fans, and manipulating said fans into doing the same back to him.
I skim through this thread and mostly just see tweets from his wife or discussions about that side.
It's not like that Gold Play Button means shit these days. Also, nice of you to keep blaming Heidi for shit that Jared caused.
I am gonna echo that posters sentiment about the conversation going on here. Because you know the direction this conversation is headed in just makes me uncomfortable.
At this point it barely feels like it’s about the actual crime of soliciting pictures from minors. Instead it just feels like people are just judging two people’s break up. It distinctly feels like this aint my business.
At this point it barely feels like it’s about the actual crime of soliciting pictures from minors. Instead it just feels like people are just judging two people’s break up. It distinctly feels like this aint my business.
So why exactly do you take issue with people discussing his abuse? Because this reply doesn’t answer that.
Because, again, you yourself claimed that the pedophilia was the serious side, so you’re going to have to explain to me how that isn’t saying the abuse isn’t serious.
I didn't say it wasn't serious, I have no problem discussing that. I think both issues should be.
A simple "no, I don't understand how marriage works" would have sufficed but keep on typing my dude.
So why single out one side as the “serious side”?
I’m not trying to get on your case or anything, but you have to see why doing that just perpetuates the idea that people shouldn’t talk about abuse, which is a big part of why so much abuse goes unpunished. And so many people in this thread are doing that.
If there’s something about the pedophilia that isn’t being discussed then please bring it up and actually discuss it, but all your initial post did was downplay Jared’s abuse.
I don't get why so many people on Twitter are getting so mad at Heidi for yelling and being angry about all of this on her own personal Facebook and through text with the two people who caused her to get so angry in the first place. It's almost like they expect victims of abuse to behave in exactly some certain way when it's obvious people aren't going to get out of an abusive situation without being at least a little upset at the whole thing.
Not necessarily true. If their is an understanding between the two parties that she is no longer living there then it is no longer her residence. Regardless if her name is on the lease or not. Same reason your landlord can't just use his key and enter your apartment whenever they want.
She is legally allowed to collect her things but requires permission from the resident. If its not granted law enforcement can get involved.
However these rules can vary state by state
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