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Bionic

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Oct 27, 2017
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It's not creepy because he's crossdressing, it's creepy because of, uh, literally everything else.
But correct me if I'm wrong, the crossdressing is why people are posting and laughing at it, right? Because people equate crossdressing and non-gender-normative behavior with sexual deviancy, and this picture links those with pedophilia as well? Jared's a piece of shit. Making fun of him for crossdressing isn't putting him down, it's putting down crossdressing.
 

Hailinel

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But correct me if I'm wrong, the crossdressing is why people are posting and laughing at it, right? Because people equate crossdressing and non-gender-normative behavior with sexual deviancy, and this picture links those with pedophilia as well? Jared's a piece of shit. Making fun of him for crossdressing isn't putting him down, it's putting down crossdressing.
If a gross piece of shit dressed up as a character you liked, would you refrain from dunking on said piece of shit just because he happened to be crossdressing for that costume?

It's not even that good of a crossplay, for Christ's sake. He's just slouched and sprawled in a lazy, provocative way in a dimestore Mercury costume and isn't even wearing a wig or anything.

ProJared is shit. His attempt at crossdressing is shit. His dragging Mercury through the mud is shit.
 

Bionic

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Oct 27, 2017
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If a gross piece of shit dressed up as a character you liked, would you refrain from dunking on said piece of shit just because he happened to be crossdressing for that costume?
You hear comedians talk about this exact issue, because it comes up a lot for them. They have a joke that they feel is punching up at people with racist/transphobic/misogynistic/ableist beliefs, but they try out the joke and realize people are actually laughing at the marginalized group, so the joke ends up punching down when they intend for it to punch up. So they stop performing the joke, or change it so it doesn't punch down anymore. Anthony Jeselnik's NY Times interview last month talked about exactly this.

When I make a joke, I don't just think "what if this joke lands perfectly?" I think "could this joke backfire and do more damage than I intend?" So to answer your question, yeah, I'd refrain. There's plenty to shit on this asshole over. I don't need to provide transphobic people with easy shit to post and laugh at, that supports their view that non-gender-conforming behavior is associated with sexual deviancy or pedophilia.
 

Plastic Shark

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Nov 17, 2017
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Boy I sure do remember when the Jontron stuff was happening and that barely anybody gave a shit. And still don't.
At least people now are giving a bit of a shit with regards to Projared.

A feel bad for NormalBoots.
 

Giga Man

One Winged Slayer
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Oct 27, 2017
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I know that I'm going to regret this but, did that Sailor Mercury pic surface before or after this whole mess?
I don't know when that particular photo came about, but he dressed up as Sailor Mercury by the end of his video about Sailor Moon video games, so it doesn't surprise me after all this crap that he'd pose like that in the costume.
 

Flavius

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Oct 28, 2017
2,313
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That's because gamers are largely trash people. Speaking as a gamer myself. It's been an illuminating time, since GamerGate.

I sincerely hope that's isn't a consensus. Like any other virtual environment that affords some level of anonymity, you are likely going to have a disproportionate number of jerks who feel enabled by said anonymity. You're likely also going to have a larger number of folks with some form of mental illness as opposed to f2f. But that said, it's just people...there are good, bad, and anything along the spectrum between.
 

Absolute

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Nov 6, 2017
2,090
The issue is that JonTron is a founder. He and PBG founded NormalBoots, and that requires more legal hoops to jump through to kick a founder. He did as much as he could do and JonTron's name and content are nowhere to be found on the website. When the Destiny debate happened PBG was dragging JonTron on Twitter.

Tbh when the s**t hit the fan with Jontron they should've just disbanded the group and started something new. The stuff he said was bats**t. It leaves a dark cloud over everyone. I readily admit that I am not well versed on all the details re normalboots but seeing that for the first time it really doesn't sit well with me.
 

Nanashrew

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Oct 25, 2017
6,328
Tbh when the s**t hit the fan with Jontron they should've just disbanded the group and started something new. The stuff he said was bats**t. It leaves a dark cloud over everyone. I readily admit that I am not well versed on all the details re normalboots but seeing that for the first time it really doesn't sit well with me.
I don't disagree. I do wonder with all the events that have happened, if NormalBoots may disband. I dunno how much strain they can withstand.
 

Ms.Galaxy

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Oct 25, 2017
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But correct me if I'm wrong, the crossdressing is why people are posting and laughing at it, right? Because people equate crossdressing and non-gender-normative behavior with sexual deviancy, and this picture links those with pedophilia as well? Jared's a piece of shit. Making fun of him for crossdressing isn't putting him down, it's putting down crossdressing.

For me, I'm more uncomfortable of said image and making jokes to lighten the mood because of the context surrounding it all. Without any context, had you shown me this image, I wouldn't say much about it since I'm enby. I mean, I crossdress myself and I have encourage people to do so too. However, add the context and I find it a bit... yeah.

He's dressing as an underage girl doing these poses, which are similar to the poses that he does on his nudes, it's a sexually provocative pose after all, and has sent these kinds of images to fans, some of which were underage and he solicited them for nudes. Taken together and I feel uncomfortable and a bit sick, so I welcome something to lighten the mood.
 

Cokomon

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Nov 11, 2017
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I don't know when that particular photo came about, but he dressed up as Sailor Mercury by the end of his video about Sailor Moon video games, so it doesn't surprise me after all this crap that he'd pose like that in the costume.
Yeah, I think that's the main reason people are dunking on it. He wore that costume as a cute/funny way to end a video. Then, it turned out, he had used that costume off camera for sexual purposes, as part of the soliciting of fans. Queue dunking.
 

Hailinel

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For me, I'm more uncomfortable of said image and making jokes to lighten the mood because of the context surrounding it all. Without any context, had you shown me this image, I wouldn't say much about it since I'm enby. I mean, I crossdress myself and I have encourage people to do so too. However, add the context and I find it a bit... yeah.

He's dressing as an underage girl doing these poses, which are similar to the poses that he does on his nudes, it's a sexually provocative pose after all, and has sent these kinds of images to fans, some of which were underage and he solicited them for nudes. Taken together and I feel uncomfortable and a bit sick, so I welcome something to lighten the mood.
This is a better argument than any I was considering myself. Thank you.
 

BlueKoopa

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Just read a Twitter thread from PushingUpRoses where she mentioned that ProJared had made a very explicit pass on her that was super unwelcome. Seems fans weren't the only people he was doing this stuff to. I feel really bad for her knowing she went through that and just so, so disgusted that ProJared did this to so many people.
 

RainRainRain

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Jan 15, 2018
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Mark my words, in the future, more "beloved" YouTube personalities will come out with allegations against them, just like this.

Including people who have been defended on this thread: "oh YouTuber xxx would never do this"

Lol, even after this people still believe that they 100% understand and know their favorite YouTuber just because they get greeted on camera whenever said content creator makes a new video.

Hilarious how people don't even bother to try and think that these people might just be different behind the camera.
 
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For me, I'm more uncomfortable of said image and making jokes to lighten the mood because of the context surrounding it all. Without any context, had you shown me this image, I wouldn't say much about it since I'm enby. I mean, I crossdress myself and I have encourage people to do so too. However, add the context and I find it a bit... yeah.

He's dressing as an underage girl doing these poses, which are similar to the poses that he does on his nudes, it's a sexually provocative pose after all, and has sent these kinds of images to fans, some of which were underage and he solicited them for nudes. Taken together and I feel uncomfortable and a bit sick, so I welcome something to lighten the mood.
While I get what you are saying (I'm trans), when the image keeps getting posted in replies over and over and the comments don't make that distinction, it bothers me. Plus I don't think this thread needs thing to lighten the mood, their are plenty of other threads for that and I don't know, it feels like it undermines the seriousness and just how messed up and horrible what ProJared did as being.
 
Feb 24, 2018
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Just read a Twitter thread from PushingUpRoses where she mentioned that ProJared had made a very explicit pass on her that was super unwelcome. Seems fans weren't the only people he was doing this stuff to. I feel really bad for her knowing she went through that and just so, so disgusted that ProJared did this to so many people.
Crap that's horrible :(

Really hope Heidi can get the divorce settlement done as soon as possible so she never has to be in contact with him again.
 

SilentStorm

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Apr 14, 2019
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Wow, PushingUpRoses!?

Poor her, and damn, Jared, more and more we see that you weren't the polite awesome guy you said you were to everyone, just a creep...no, a monster considering you are a pedophile that actually did things to underage girls.

But yeah, PushingUpRoses, that just reminds me she is yet another Youtuber i like, i think i found out about her because of LGR when they made a video about playing a DOS game following the life of Mickey and then i started watching her stuff, and i appreciated that she talked about adventure games more than many Youtubers which is great to me.

As for Jontron, yep, nothing he said ended up hurting him, i think something similar happened to RWhiteGoose, a Youtuber focusing on speedrunning, the guy seemed decent, then people found out he was a neo-nazi after finding lots and lots of pages where he used alt-right terminology, insulted various minorities, focused a lot on jewish people and had crazy conspiracy theories regarding jewish people controlling the porn industry or some crap like that, and last i heard, while he lost a few viewers and was banned from GDQ, he still has many viewers and it seems some people started following him once he was revealed to be a neo-nazi that was banned from a charity event.
 

Gaming_Groove

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Apr 4, 2018
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Not sure if Heidi's tweets from today have been posted, but it's good to see her continuing to offer support to others



The thread continues with discussion about whether or not Holly was being manipulated by him or not as well.
 

Tokyo_Funk

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Dec 10, 2018
10,053
ProJareds penis permutates phone pedophilia progressing point-blank into Pat's parents peepers.

Poor Pat's mother.
 

phonicjoy

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Jun 19, 2018
4,305
I think, here on resetera at least, the reason you are seeing so many people "focused on the cheating" instead of the worse stuff with minors is because people keep popping up to defend the cheating. No one is defending the pedophilia, so there's less conversation about that. A shocking amount of people do want to come in and downplay the months of emotional abuse and gaslighting involved in the cheating because "cheating is just personal life", and so you see a lot of conversation where people are having to remind "no, that was a really fucked up thing to do."

I think most of us just disagree with the scarlet letter idea here. Of course its fucked up in this situation.
 

SilentStorm

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Apr 14, 2019
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Like I know JonTron is so far gone that calling him a "dumbass" is being far to kind, and yet. As someone who occasionally sees porn with penises in it, that is a take.
No, Jontron didn't say that, that was RWhiteGoose:
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A guy who i knew about but didn't care much(never cared that much for Goldeneye, much less speedruns of it) but who seemed okay and then people found a lot of conversations he was part of with various alt-right terms and discussions and where he talked about jewish people being behind porn conspirancies.

Jontron for all faults never never said that, at least, i think he didn't.

Anyways, RWhiteGoose still has fans, maybe more than he had before, and the worst thing that happened was Games Done Quick banning him for life because, you know, they don't want a neo nazi in their charity event, oh, Goose apologized and saying he had just been confused, but it was proven he was saying things like that for years and the last few posts of that kind were very recent, making it come across as not a legitimate apology and more like him trying to do something now that he was caught.

And there were, of course, videos supporting him and videos against him, even videos against those that supported him:

Though in that case, it was because one of the supporters, Apollo Legend, made a video supporting Goose and saying GDQ unfairly banned him for some "mildly offensive jokes" without explaining what he said, hoping that the viewers wouldn't look more deeply and see what Goose had actually said, like, you know, the jewish porn conspirancies.
 

JahIthBer

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Jan 27, 2018
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I wonder when there is gonna be an apology video with him playing the victim, you know it's coming & im sure he thinks he is the victim.
 

oni-link

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Oct 25, 2017
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I wonder when there is gonna be an apology video with him playing the victim, you know it's coming & im sure he thinks he is the victim.

I honestly don't think he'll do that, there isn't any excuse

You can't apologise by saying "Sorry, I'm a horny bastard, this is who I am"

I guess he'll lay low and try and release another video like nothing happened in 6 months time

That is assuming he's not in jail
 

Protoman200X

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
8,548
N. Vancouver, BC, Canada
I wonder when there is gonna be an apology video with him playing the victim, you know it's coming & im sure he thinks he is the victim.

If Jared has a legal team, they are most likely suggesting to him that he doesn't post on social media for the next century or two.

Even if he does make an "apology" video of some fashion, you can't bounce back from being publicly labeled as a pedophile, and no one would want to be associated with such company. Jared's editor (for his Let's Play channel) has already distance herself from him/quit, so good luck with finding a replacement.

So, yeah. He would need anything short of a miracle after this, and he would be lucky if he can quit the whole thing and quietly walk away from this.
 

LiK

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Oct 25, 2017
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Down to 830k, wow, kept going after the weekend. Others have survived the drop, not this guy.
 

astro

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Oct 25, 2017
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100% fact that a lot of sharing of the cross dressing images are being done with bigoted undertones.

Shaming for looks, sexual preference, gender identity, etc... should be a huge no.

There is actual ammo here, no need to perpetuate bigotry by joining in even if your intentions are only directed at mocking Jared.

There is real harm done by perpetuating these things, and there is plenty Jared has done to share and highlight without doing this.
 

HylianSeven

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Oct 25, 2017
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I honestly think he'll just disappear at this point. There's hard receipts of pedophilia involved. You don't "come back after 6 months" from that. He'll stay off the grid, if he's not arrested and in prison, which I think is likely to happen.

100% fact that a lot of sharing of the cross dressing images are being done with bigoted undertones.

Shaming for looks, sexual preference, gender identity, etc... should be a huge no.

There is actual ammo here, no need to perpetuate bigotry by joining in even if your intentions are only directed at mocking Jared.

There is real harm done by perpetuating these things, and there is plenty Jared has done to share and highlight without doing this.
I think with the Sailor Mercury picture that keeps getting shared, it was taken as a lewd, which is why people are giving him shit for it. It was something used in his chats with fans (including minors). I think that's a fair reason to give him shit for that specific image. There's easily a billion screenshots from the video he did on Sailor Moon games in that outfit, but no one is using those, just that one that was taken as a lewd.

The original use of that outfit was for a thing in his video on Sailor Moon games. No one really batted an eye at it back then. I think that's the tone most people are sharing it in, but I don't disagree that there's bigoted undertones to a good amount of people sharing it too, and that shit needs to stop.

The stuff about Holly's looks is really shitty though, and I think the people calling her a "downgrade" or whatever are being assholes. Trust me, there's plenty to dunk on Holly for without resorting to insulting her appearnace as she's 100% complicit in all this shit.
 
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