Project Phoenix scammed us? Creative Intelegent Art Fraud?

Oct 25, 2017
2,048
#8
Getting those quoted images to work on mobile is a crapshoot
Yeah, what’s up with that? I can’t expand any quoted image on mobile.

I’m not even sure why the OP would quote images that haven’t been used in the thread before. The forum software will automatically shrink them if they’re too big.
 
Oct 29, 2017
1,138
#9
Wouldn't be surprised, and an absolute disgrace if so, but this is giving me flashbacks to the No Man's Sky twitter/email hack so I'd give it a day or so to see how things shake out.
 
Oct 25, 2017
273
Japan
#15
The decision between Tiny Metal and Wargroove just got a hell of a lot easier. I was already planning on waiting for Wargroove, as it looked much more polished and like it had a lot of real love for the project in the development team, while this one always looked somewhat quick and dirty by comparison. But yeah, this kills any chance of me picking up both.
 
Oct 25, 2017
3,071
Sao Paulo, Brazil
#16
As a backer I pretty much resigned myself, a long time ago, to have burned $100 on nothing. I just wish I would stop getting updates on this fucking nonsense, just come out and say the game isn't ever coming out or admit to scamming people, at this point no one is going to care either way.
 
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Oct 25, 2017
591
Philly
#17
If someone can contact Kotaku and other game journalists that would be great. We need to get this word out there. We spend money on this. Supported this way back in 2012 and those same developers made another game after that. Highly disappointed with Hiroaki Yura.
 
Oct 25, 2017
1,744
#18
I'm not too surprised that the CIA is still fucking people over in 2017. Sad for those whose put money into this.
 
Oct 25, 2017
3,071
Sao Paulo, Brazil
#21
If someone can contact Kotaku and other game journalists that would be great. We need to get this word out there. We spend money on this. Supported this way back in 2012 and those same developers made another game after that. Highly disappointed with Hiroaki Yura.
I'm pretty sure this, and unsung story, are consistently listed in "kickstarted that ran with your money/scammed you" videos/lists
 
Oct 29, 2017
2,577
#23
Dang I was looking forward to Tiny Metal.

Did not back this project or ever know what it was but sounds like it's run by a right up scumbag.
 
Oct 27, 2017
86
Melbourne
#33
hah this was the only game i ever backed. They got me right in the nostalgia weak spot.

This post is believable to me. Understood this project was never going to happen long ago, just wish they would stop dragging the facade on...
 

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Oct 27, 2017
1,160
#34
well, damn. Aint that some shit.

Wasn't the composer from the FF series involved with this at some point? their con must have been pretty far reaching to fool even veterans.
 
Oct 25, 2017
6,809
Singapore
#36
Wow, I'm shocked. This came out of nowhere! If only there were red flags from the very start of the Kickstarter launch!! Who could have seen this coming??!!!!

Lmao.
 
Oct 27, 2017
552
#38
I've backed my last kickstarter. This shit needs to go away.
Here's the rub: that this was by an upstart company and didn't seem to have any real staff of their own was a red flag for me right away. I wish it had been for others; regardless, I've had some losses on KS and some greatly delayed items that I still expect to exist at some point. It is hugely disappointing to me that people feel like this over a whiff when things like Rap Rabbit and The Good Life fail (or how Indivisible needed like 8 Hail Marys) despite being much more reputable situations and projects of realistically manageable scope. Crowdfunding is still a net good for the video game industry and something I want to see other fans support into the future, so it really upsets me when I see posts like this or hear people talk like this. And yet I can't blame you - being out a significant amount of money is a super rough situation.

Also really bummed because I wanted to buy Tiny Metal but I definitely won't now.
 
Oct 25, 2017
2,627
#39
Wouldn't be surprised, and an absolute disgrace if so, but this is giving me flashbacks to the No Man's Sky twitter/email hack so I'd give it a day or so to see how things shake out.
Same. Comes across a bit like something an angry backer would write to throw them under the bus, but we'll see I guess.
 
Oct 27, 2017
74
#40
Tiny Metal looked pretty good, but it's hard to support it if the content of this post is true. Considering that I don't think Project Phoenix has ever shown anything aside from concept art though, it's not all that hard to believe that this allegation may be true.

Extremely sucks that there are people out there like this, and it definitely does damage the entire industry. Jason Schreier already wrote about Project Phoenix damaging the industry once this year and I guess he's going to end up doing it again if this story checks out.
 
Oct 29, 2017
80
Kansas
#43
Damn this fucking sucks for anyone excited for that game. Also if I remember right CIA was also partially behind Under the Dog and once they pulled out the project went to shit
 
Oct 25, 2017
6,809
Singapore
#45
Damn this fucking sucks for anyone excited for that game. Also if I remember right CIA was also partially behind Under the Dog and once they pulled out the project went to shit
No it's the opposite. They were behind it and totally mismanaged shit, only when they pulled out were the Japanese companies involved able to get shit together and release it.
 
Oct 29, 2017
80
Kansas
#46
No it's the opposite. They were behind it and totally mismanaged shit, only when they pulled out were the Japanese companies involved able to get shit together and release it.
Well, they mostly got their shit together. Everything was delayed several months and the figure was cancelled a few month ago. At least they were able to even get it out at all
 
Oct 25, 2017
1,413
#49
I've backed my last kickstarter. This shit needs to go away.
There have been a lot of "big budget", successful big Kickstarters like Pillars of Eternity, both Divinity Original Sin games, the Shadowrun series, Wasteland 2 and others, we just have to be more careful to what we back.