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Project Phoenix scammed us? Creative Intelegent Art Fraud?
- Thread starter Aurizen
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Yeah, what's up with that? I can't expand any quoted image on mobile.
I'm not even sure why the OP would quote images that haven't been used in the thread before. The forum software will automatically shrink them if they're too big.
For folks on mobile, click these:
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Image #1: https://i.imgur.com/1rQAg04.png
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The decision between Tiny Metal and Wargroove just got a hell of a lot easier. I was already planning on waiting for Wargroove, as it looked much more polished and like it had a lot of real love for the project in the development team, while this one always looked somewhat quick and dirty by comparison. But yeah, this kills any chance of me picking up both.
As a backer I pretty much resigned myself, a long time ago, to have burned $100 on nothing. I just wish I would stop getting updates on this fucking nonsense, just come out and say the game isn't ever coming out or admit to scamming people, at this point no one is going to care either way.
If someone can contact Kotaku and other game journalists that would be great. We need to get this word out there. We spend money on this. Supported this way back in 2012 and those same developers made another game after that. Highly disappointed with Hiroaki Yura.
I'm pretty sure this, and unsung story, are consistently listed in "kickstarted that ran with your money/scammed you" videos/lists
Disappointing and despicable. Hopefully something comes out of this.
I'm glad that I was poor enough back then to only donate 1 dollar to them.
I'm glad that I was poor enough back then to only donate 1 dollar to them.
Dude what the fuck, I wanted to buy Tiny Metal but if this is true then no way I'll support them.
Here's the rub: that this was by an upstart company and didn't seem to have any real staff of their own was a red flag for me right away. I wish it had been for others; regardless, I've had some losses on KS and some greatly delayed items that I still expect to exist at some point. It is hugely disappointing to me that people feel like this over a whiff when things like Rap Rabbit and The Good Life fail (or how Indivisible needed like 8 Hail Marys) despite being much more reputable situations and projects of realistically manageable scope. Crowdfunding is still a net good for the video game industry and something I want to see other fans support into the future, so it really upsets me when I see posts like this or hear people talk like this. And yet I can't blame you - being out a significant amount of money is a super rough situation.
Also really bummed because I wanted to buy Tiny Metal but I definitely won't now.
Same. Comes across a bit like something an angry backer would write to throw them under the bus, but we'll see I guess.
Tiny Metal looked pretty good, but it's hard to support it if the content of this post is true. Considering that I don't think Project Phoenix has ever shown anything aside from concept art though, it's not all that hard to believe that this allegation may be true.
Extremely sucks that there are people out there like this, and it definitely does damage the entire industry. Jason Schreier already wrote about Project Phoenix damaging the industry once this year and I guess he's going to end up doing it again if this story checks out.
Extremely sucks that there are people out there like this, and it definitely does damage the entire industry. Jason Schreier already wrote about Project Phoenix damaging the industry once this year and I guess he's going to end up doing it again if this story checks out.
Sure but who are you going to sue and where? Japan? Good luck. Australia? Uh... The US? Even if you win...
Damn this fucking sucks for anyone excited for that game. Also if I remember right CIA was also partially behind Under the Dog and once they pulled out the project went to shit
No it's the opposite. They were behind it and totally mismanaged shit, only when they pulled out were the Japanese companies involved able to get shit together and release it.
Well, they mostly got their shit together. Everything was delayed several months and the figure was cancelled a few month ago. At least they were able to even get it out at all
You just have to be smart about what you back. I've backed about 20 projects, this is the only project I regret backing (for obvious reasons)
There have been a lot of "big budget", successful big Kickstarters like Pillars of Eternity, both Divinity Original Sin games, the Shadowrun series, Wasteland 2 and others, we just have to be more careful to what we back.
