Fair game to come into a PSNow thread and point out the lower streaming resolution, then.
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Project xCloud - DualShock 4 support, Coming To PC in 2020, 50+ Games Already Supported, Game Pass Support Coming
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Fair game to come into a PSNow thread and point out the lower streaming resolution, then.
I think the whole Game Pass Library will be able to run on XCloud. The library is smaller and Microsoft can easily talk with all the developers on the service to allow their games on Game Pass to also run on XCloud. Whereas if it's via the Xbox Store it's more complicated.
It's clearly a new battleground. I expect game totals, resolutions, and prices to shift wildly over the next 12-18 months. We're going to be getting detailed performance analysis on all 3. I expect both next gen controllers to be WiFi equipped. We're just in the opening volley right now. This is going to be TV streaming all over again. With Starlink supposedly going live next year, game streaming might become a reality that suddenly becomes possible for literally billions of people currently on slow or no internet. I expect more players to get involved including Apple and maybe Nintendo, with Netflix and Amazon possible too.
GeForce Now is currently really poor, technically speaking and from a usability point of view, but I assume it'll improve on both counts.
I don't get your comment about cost, though. If you want to stream Cyberpunk 2077 in 4K when it comes out, on a range of devices, then a month of Shadow will cost you about ÂŁ35, rather than the ÂŁ150 it'll cost you to buy a Stadia Founder's Edition. And you'll also own a license for the game that isn't tied to a particular ecosystem. In fact, if you buy it from GOG, you'll get it DRM free.
But power is important. I'm sure Google won't have issues with catalog growing over time either. Not that those 50 games are exactly stellar either, RDR2 alone running at 4k is probably much more appealing for example.
The problem, imo, for Google, is the approach, needing to buy games, not being able to download them, instead of a subscription model
That's only one game, shadow will cost me 35 every time I want to use it, the cost will catch up fast, and I don't have to buy the founders edition if I didn't want to I could wait and use stadia without buying hardware next year
As someone that has spent thousands of dollars in the Xbox ecosystem, I'm upset that I still don't have an xcloud invite.
Based on this is seems like Microsoft expects nearly all 3500+ current Xbox games to be available on the service at launch.From Xbox Wire:
Yes stadia didn't answer a lot of questions at the initial reveal and everyone in here went crazy negative
Microsoft shows xcloud today and doesn't answer a lot of questions and everyone is positive
So far I've tried out two games on the preview program. Shadow of the tomb raider and Darksiders 3.
The games looks great. There is noticeable input lag but seems plausible for single player games.
Playing on Wi-Fi on a Samsung Galaxy tablet.
I really like how my saves from the game transfer seamlessly.
The games looks great. There is noticeable input lag but seems plausible for single player games.
Playing on Wi-Fi on a Samsung Galaxy tablet.
I really like how my saves from the game transfer seamlessly.
Why shouldn't they when the backend hardware are 4 Xbox Ones in 1U racks ...
Wait, you honestly think you are impartial and objective?
(Also, it's because context and past behaviour.)
Yes I want xcloud and PSnow to be like stadia and none of those questions were answered, I want all 3 services to be similar and sell new games
I want stadia to replace my pc
I want xcloud to replace my Xbox
I want PSnow to replace ps5
I'm sorry, this post from you specifically is the funniest fucking thing I've seen all day. No really.
What I get from all of this is that xCloud is just another Xbox that you rent instead of buying. If you want to play Xbox Game Pass on console ? Buy an Xbox. If you want to play Xbox Game Pass games on PC ? Buy a PC ? If you want to play them in the cloud, sign up for the XCloud Subscription.From Xbox Wire:
I don't think we should assume that xCloud will be included in the regular Xbox Game Pass Tier for free, but more than "Xbox Game Pass" will be available on xCloud, the platform.
There are many, many games on Xboz game pass that aren't on PC Game pass, so this makes no sense.
OK. I mean, you're still paying a Stadia subscription if you want to play in 4K year, which is ÂŁ9 p/m. That's definitely a cheaper option. It's still a cost, though.
For me, the bigger issue would be this: I can pay ÂŁ120 now (I had the founder's edition price wrong earlier, sorry) to get into Stadia and play twelve games in 4K, or for the same price I can play literally any PC game I want, on high (and in some cases ultra) settings and stream it at 4K for a three or four-month period. And I'll own all those games afterwards, for use outside the Shadow ecosystem.
That value equation is obviously going to change in the long run, but based on what's on offer today, the only reason to go with Stadia, as far as I'm concerned, is for the simpler user experience.
There is probably gonna be a cost barrier to xCloud. They've said that xCloud from your own xbox, aka remote play, would be free. Hinting that xCloud from their severs will have a cost. I doubt base game pass subs will come with that cost. GPU is up in the air.
I disagree. We're headed into a new generation. Everything is about to be up for grabs again. Now Google's sales pitch is, "Don't buy a next-gen console. You already have one, just download this app. With us, you don't buy the hardware, you just buy the games. More money in your pocket. Oh, and it's 60fps. Oh, and you don't have to pay for online multiplayer." I'm absolutely puzzled by people who think Stadia is for people who want to stream games to their phone. It's a full-blown next-gen platform, and one that I predict a lot of people are going to prefer to dropping $400 on a box, signing up for a multiplayer subscription, and then playing games in 30fps.
controversial'ish... but i genuinely think the PS5 will sell (quite a bit) more that the next Xbox next generation, but it wouldn't surprise me if the Xbox 'brand' generates more revenue than the Playstation 'brand'
the world is heading towards services, and with Microsofts financial might and forward thinking, they're already perfectly positioned to hit the ground running
ps. i'm sure Sony will follow suit, though
the world is heading towards services, and with Microsofts financial might and forward thinking, they're already perfectly positioned to hit the ground running
ps. i'm sure Sony will follow suit, though
10$ is cheaper than 35$ and I can still play the games at times when I'm not subbed, I don't care about playing games outside the cloud the whole point is me not buying hardware so i don't have to buy a new pc
From the press release:
Sounds pretty clear that Cloud Streaming will be added to Game Pass.
Agree. You will still need Gold. Its not free free but Gold free.
I haven't had to so far. They are just free for testing purposes. Gonna suck when I actually have to start paying for them lol
So instead of buying a new PC that can run anything you want, you're going to rent one (NB: I know Stadia isn't technically a PC) that can only run a curated selection of games? Sorry, but I just don't see that as even approaching a like-for-like replacement.
You're also really reaching if you're saying playing at 4K/60fps is essential, but that you'd be happy to play at 1080p when you don't fancy paying the subscription for Stadia Pro.
Genuine question - Do you guys see yourselves using this service?
Here in the UK the Wifi infrastructure outside of your home is still poor and using mobile data to stream would most likely not work and to be honest i don't have time to play when i'm not at home.
I can't wrap my head around why anyone would prefer to play a game on a small screen if they can use a TV/Monitor etc, that's why i fail to see the point of this.
Here in the UK the Wifi infrastructure outside of your home is still poor and using mobile data to stream would most likely not work and to be honest i don't have time to play when i'm not at home.
I can't wrap my head around why anyone would prefer to play a game on a small screen if they can use a TV/Monitor etc, that's why i fail to see the point of this.
Sorry if this has already been asked. Is DualShock 4 support available now? I haven't gotten to try xCloud yet because my only Xbox controller is the Elite Series 1, which doesn't have Bluetooth. I do, however, have a DS4.
I would never choose streaming over running a game locally. However, if the TV isn't currently free or something, I'd definitely use it.
I have an old pc that can play games that existed before cloud streaming, also have GeForce now, but from this point forwards im only planning to buy new game's in the cloud, from 2020 and onwards
I definitely want to see how console streaming turns out. I finally have a 10mbs up connection which is what is recommended.
And Project xCloud runs off Xbox One's anyhow.
We know its coming as part of Game Pass, besides that though we don't know price.
I think you are using the worlds inferior and better in a very specific and narrow way to describe and compare both services. Sure, Xcloud will have a larger library of games and that is definitely one way you can judge a cloud gaming service, but there are others factors that are equally important. Things like image quality, game framerate and latency. Since Microsoft will use Xbox One hardware, this will mean that the majority of the games will run at 30fps and not even with a stable framerate as seen on most DF videos. Every Stadia instance is around 10 times as powerful as an Xbox One, that is practically a next gen console right there and that is without taking into account that developers will be able to stack multiple blades. I definitely understand the appeal of a service like Xcloud and I'm sure it will be very popular, but when you compare both services, one should be aware of the other differences beyond the library of games. There are also several unknowns from Xcloud, like how many data centers will it have? This directly relates to the average latency people will have, what will be the price of the service? How soon will they update to the Scarlet hardware? Will Xcloud have a free to access subscription?
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Phil's always been clear, it's an option.
And 5G will make things alot easier for us which is being rolled out, that's years away if your outside the major cities but MS are mobilising for this eventuality. Also, WiFi in specific zones, which are quite common could provide a decent service.
I mean, I wouldn't mind booting up Outer Wilds for instance (not world's) at work during some downtime to play, or some Rocket League online. What's convenient is that it's like having a portable Xbox experience in your pocket, something that's quite profound when you have it in your hands.
If it doesn't have a free streaming-service then I don't care for it, to be honest. I am not into the monthly-rate model, even more if I have to buy the game I want to play on top.
Don't care about Gamepass right now. I don't play enough to warrant it, I just want a service where I can buy a certain game I want to stream, finish and be done with it, till the next game I want to play comes along.
But it's nice to see that MS seem to get alot of support from developers and they will offer a good amount of games at launch, which is nice.
Don't care about Gamepass right now. I don't play enough to warrant it, I just want a service where I can buy a certain game I want to stream, finish and be done with it, till the next game I want to play comes along.
But it's nice to see that MS seem to get alot of support from developers and they will offer a good amount of games at launch, which is nice.
Not at launch. It looks like xCloud will support almost all 3500+ Xbox games at launch and since there are two Lara Croft top down puzzle games, at least two backcompat Tomb Raider games, and the three Reboot Tomb Raider games that means at launch (in terms of Tomb Raider games) xCloud > Stadia
Yup...this is the game changer I was asking about right here.From Xbox Wire:
Streaming games you already own. Is xCloud a paid subscription service tho...I know not for Game Pass so far.