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PS Blog: Spider-Man Miles Morales, Sackboy! A Big Adventure and Horizon: Forbidden West will launch on PS4 too
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When Microsoft started taking backwards compatibility and accessibility seriously and Sony didn't.
So because those who claimed to hate the idea of crossgen (when it seemed it was mostly a MS issue) are still saying crossgen is shit when Sony are also doing it, we actually have some people claiming this just shows how Sony fans have backed themselves into a corner and still have to say it so as not to eat crow? And not that those people might have actually meant that they hate crossgen in the first place and weren't just attacking MS in some sort of console war, but were just stating what they truly thought (that crossgen holds games back)? Stating the same opinion, no matter who the console maker is, shows that you never really believed it?
And in a thread (multiple threads in fact) full of many, many people pissed off about these Sony games being crossgen, there's reply after reply implying (or even directly stating) that those who complained about crossgen on Xbox are suddenly silent or have changed their mind?
The internet never ceases to amaze me.
And in a thread (multiple threads in fact) full of many, many people pissed off about these Sony games being crossgen, there's reply after reply implying (or even directly stating) that those who complained about crossgen on Xbox are suddenly silent or have changed their mind?
The internet never ceases to amaze me.
I don't mind Spidey or Sackboy cz they are at the very start of the gen.
Horizon? No. I'm not OK with that. I wanted GG to go all out and make the most of the PS5 and I don't think we will see that until the third game now. i'm not singing a different tune to xbox and PS. it sucks no matter who it is
Horizon? No. I'm not OK with that. I wanted GG to go all out and make the most of the PS5 and I don't think we will see that until the third game now. i'm not singing a different tune to xbox and PS. it sucks no matter who it is
The thing is the whole time the cross-gen was way overblown anyway. Other then Halo no 1st-party studio game is cross-gen
Somewhat? Try entirely. Two possibilities exist. Either sony knew all along they would be doing this, or they changed their mind.
IN the former case, it means they stirred up console war stuff, dissed pro consumer moves, and attacked the competition for something they were going to do. That's plain shitty. In the latter case, it means all that talk about spider-man and horizon needing the SSD to work was a lie...and sony was dissing pro consumer moves simply because the competition came up with it first.
It's especially bad that the next gen upgrade for spider-man is locked behind a 20 dollar paywall, when such upgrades on the xbox are free. So sony is not only doing the thing they attacked microsoft for doing...but they are doing a worse version of it.
Wherever you stand on the issue, microsoft laid out their gaming philosophy years ago and have stuck to it. Through ridicule to thepoint now where even their staunchest rivals are being froced to adopt it. Sony has not articulated a philosophy for next gen beyond 'SSD! SSD! SSD!'. Today's news means they have either gone back on that philosophy, or never really had it.
Had they simply gone along with microsoft form the get go this would not be an issue, but sony used this as a wedge issue to differentiate their ecosystem form microsoft.
People haven't like cross gen since ever as the benefit from new generations has always been apparent. And judging by the tone of the thread, it still seems like cross gen isn't particularly popular.
What? Persecution complex. People have always disliked cross gen no matter who it was from. We want the NEW new.
Theres 110+ million PS4 users who will appreciate it. Era is not a place to gauge sentiment.
What the hell happened?! Horizon cross-gen?! Miles cross-gen?! Demon´s on PC?!
Where are the value of the "exclusives", as Jim Ryan sayed?!!
Where are the value of the "exclusives", as Jim Ryan sayed?!!
Nope and old gens are not holding new games back it seems :). Glad we got that cleared up, now we can stop arguing and get back to worrying about how Grandma will know the difference between the PS5 and the PS5DE.. and how will grandpa understand that the Series S is not a Speaker for the Series X. Timmie needs to get both and is by now expecting both as ERA keeps telling his spoiled 7 year old ass he'll be getting them from his confused grandparents!
Poor grannies, in debtors prison soon thanks to Era :(. ^^
They do, just they also believe in the previous generation. ^^
Cross gen has been a specific and unavoidable reality in console gaming for the entire history of modern gaming. BC as well until this current generation.
It makes simple business sense: you sell more games when you release them on more consoles.
It's kinda funny though because that's a PS3 game so from a game design perspective "the power of the PS5" isn't really needed.
edit - and to be clear I'm fine with cross gen games. This was just kinda shitty of Sony.
Personally I'm happy about this. I have a PS4 and I'm about to buy a new gaming PC (which grants me access to Xbox games).
I was inevitably going to get a PS5 when the exclusive library built up a bit, but this move delays that by quite a few months which kicks the FOMO into the long grass for me.
I was inevitably going to get a PS5 when the exclusive library built up a bit, but this move delays that by quite a few months which kicks the FOMO into the long grass for me.
Horizon crossgen is extremely disappointing to me. I understand is hard to make an AAA game and leave more than 100 million users out, but was hoping the game would be optimized to take full advantage of the PS5 architecture, and as a crossgen title i dont see that hapening.
"When did cross gen become a bad thing" is what I replied to. Question the validity of the assumptions of the question, not my response, then.
I'm referring to the backlash seen in this thread.
Sorry, but those prices are MSRP for all day one sales across all 'next-gen' platforms, I believe.
If the new system has better framerates and quieter fan it would be worth the upgrade.
For me, MS ended up having less cross gen games than I expected and Sony more lol.
I'm more curious about if these crossgen games are simply BC on the PS5 or if they're cross-buy so you get the PS5 version when/if you upgrade?
If I decide to stick with my PS4 for Miles Morales, do I need to buy it again when I eventually get my PS5?
If I decide to stick with my PS4 for Miles Morales, do I need to buy it again when I eventually get my PS5?
What's baffling to me is people trying to spin cross gen disappointment as a new thing and a console warrior thing. You must not have been around gaming forums for the start of the previous two gens if you think the perception of cross gen hasn't always been that it holds next gen games back from fully utilizing their feature sets.
The business sense of it was never really in question.
Nor did anyone really ever dispute that they could sell more units by doing a cross gen approach.
Doesn't matter who does this. Cross gen games means sacrifices in game so what the point of spending money on next gen machines.
PS Blog has you covered: Short answer, you're good!
PlayStation 5 launches in November, starting at $399 for PS5 Digital Edition and $499 for PS5 with Ultra HD Blu-Ray Disc Drive
New games announced at PS5 Showcase, including Final Fantasy XVI, Hogwarts Legacy, and a new God of War title
blog.playstation.com
Additionally, we know that the PS4 community will transition to PS5 at different times, and we're happy to announce PS4 versions of some of our exclusives. Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales, Sackboy A Big Adventure, and Horizon Forbidden West will also launch on PS4. While these three games were designed to take advantage of PS5 and its unique next-gen features like the ultra-high-speed SSD and DualSense controller, PS4 owners will also be able to enjoy these experiences when they launch. The PS4 digital versions of launch games include a free upgrade on both PS5 consoles, while the PS4 disc versions of these games include a free upgrade on the PS5 with Ultra HD Blu-Ray disc drive.
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Not sure about the OG Spider-man PS4 upgrading to the remaster version tho. They haven't clarified that, but I assume they would?
Spider-Man, Horizon, and Sackboy coming to PS4 is great news for me. No need to buy a PS5 until late next year. Is this the first dual console launch without a major exclusive on either console?
I totally agree with this post.
Personally I think the were going to do cross gen. It would take forever to go back and make these games work with the PS4.
I mean whether you are for or against cross-gen is whatever, I feel Sony should get shit, not for cross-gen but misleading people.
This post nails it
Better frame rates, higher resolutions.
Its a big reason PC gamers upgrade their components. Demon Souls will be exclusive at launch, with more PS5 exclusives coming down the line. If the line-up doesn't appeal to you at launch, just wait another year and buy a PS5 then.
You. Are. Awesome!PS Blog has you covered: Short answer, you're good!
PlayStation 5 launches in November, starting at $399 for PS5 Digital Edition and $499 for PS5 with Ultra HD Blu-Ray Disc Drive
New games announced at PS5 Showcase, including Final Fantasy XVI, Hogwarts Legacy, and a new God of War title
Additionally, we know that the PS4 community will transition to PS5 at different times, and we're happy to announce PS4 versions of some of our exclusives. Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales, Sackboy A Big Adventure, and Horizon Forbidden West will also launch on PS4. While these three games were designed to take advantage of PS5 and its unique next-gen features like the ultra-high-speed SSD and DualSense controller, PS4 owners will also be able to enjoy these experiences when they launch. The PS4 digital versions of launch games include a free upgrade on both PS5 consoles, while the PS4 disc versions of these games include a free upgrade on the PS5 with Ultra HD Blu-Ray disc drive.
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Not sure about the OG Spider-man PS4 upgrading to the remaster version tho. They haven't clarified that, but I assume they would?
Thanks, that clears it up nicely.
Timed exclusive. Coming to other systems later.
EDIT "Looks at post above". Never mind. Not that interested in playing it again anyway.
So much for "We believe in generations", eh guys? lol
Seriously though, games are scalable. Given the time and cost to create these monster AAA titles, it makes no sense to leave the previous gen behind if it can be made at an acceptable fidelity on current gen tech. Looks like we won't be seeing True Next Gen (tm) titles for the next year or two after all.
Seriously though, games are scalable. Given the time and cost to create these monster AAA titles, it makes no sense to leave the previous gen behind if it can be made at an acceptable fidelity on current gen tech. Looks like we won't be seeing True Next Gen (tm) titles for the next year or two after all.