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Alwayshasbeengif
Sony made a single gloriously timed concession to being pro consumer last gen and then immediately reverted to form. No back compat, nerfing mods on bethsoft games for no reason, holding up cross play when every other party was game for it. Hell, they put online play behind a paywall and hid the announcement in fine print.
They have never been shy about this and they have not been hiding it and no, this is not something you can blame on jim ryan. This is who the company has always been. The secodn they knew they could get away with it they dispensed with all illusions of pro consumer behaviour. Now maybe if people get as mad about this as they did about GT7's microtransaction hellscape it will change.
But the fact that people are saying they are STARTING to burn trhough their goodwill after nearly a decade straight of this (never mind the people I see on message board gloating at people having to pay more for trying to 'take advantage of sony') would indicate that nope, they are gonna get away scott free.
Update, maybe reversed
Like I mentioned in an earlier thread, sony was able to take the feedback of its launch and address the issues. Wish I knew how to tag all the folks who trolled me when I said sony would fix this issue and did not push out a worldwide launch so they can test the service with real users etc.
Multiple reports now in asia that the issue is fixed we can all move on now
Because nothing says corporations care like them trying to push how much they can get away with it to see if they can take more money from you.
They are not your friend, they don't need you going to bat for them.
Except it was not an error. Sony got found out an are reversing course.
As in... Tested if they could have gotten away with this?
Sure, it was a test
Hopefully the reversal is for every country where the service is available, and they refund anyone who overpaid because of this policy.
The least Sony could do.
The least Sony could do.
Silently reversing an anti-consumer policy is not "taking feedback" it is reversing course when caught, the very least they should do. Stop trying to excuse a corporation being anti-consumer.
No, we shouldn't move on at all. The fact they had the fucking gall to try this shit on top of the other bullshit they've done recently means it should be brought up constantly so they don't try again
Just watch Xbox One announcement and Xbox's E3 2013. It was a speedrun in destroying one's reputation.
Unfortunately it is not a issue at all.
Translated by DeepL
Depends on the country and if they value being able to play their old games in say 15 years or not.
In the UK with the hilarious digital prices, I wouldn't.
I have one and I've gone back and forth on if I like it or not.
All your discs just copy to the drive anyway, you're never playing anything off of the disc. I don't like the bulge the disc drive adds to the consoles front - it's ugly af. $100 off the price, and game discs and casss (for me) are just clutter.
On the other hand I've missed out on a huge amount of savings from various sales. Digital sales still do not approach physical sale prices and special deals (like buy2get1). So that to me is the major downside.
Reminds me of MS bumping Live to 120 a year and then within 24 hours backing off. Unfortunately Sony has so many other current blunders that they havent reversed. They can fuck off for the rest of this gen.
I've never bought physical since 2014 so personally I'd say yes
Lol. You're ridiculous. No one thought this was set in stone - if people hadn't reacted strongly, which you were saying was unwarranted, this wouldn't have been addressed. The whole point of speaking up is to get stuff like this fixed.
Weren't you questioning if there was even a problem to be addressed, by the way? You swerved between attaching some metaphysical quality to staggered releases where a product isn't truly live until it's released everywhere and suggesting all the information we had didn't actually amount to knowing anything because we couldn't specify exactly how many users were affected. Hilarious.
Sony reversing course is great. It's also not that surprising. Every ounce of backlash they got was warranted, though.
Hell no. I'd rather have control and options on what I want to pay for ps5 games, rather than be at the mercy of when Sony decides to post a digital sale..Haven't had to shell out $75 for a single one of their exclusives I've wanted to play.
"Sony reversed their horrendously anti-consumer move after it blew up. Clearly they were the good guys all along!!!!"
I have saved 2x the amount of money buying physical games the last 18 months than what saving on buying the digital over physical would have cost me. Its not worth it at all imo
this has got to be a joke
even if they fix this it is not at all worthy of praise. no need to name and shame people for being pissed about this.
Probably missing a dozen or more issues like Sony strong-arming indies and providing terrible back-end services for them, cross-gen upgrade crapola etc. etc.
The notion that this company has "suddenly" become anti-consumer is frankly hilarious to me.
I bought one at launch and then noticed Sony was blocking PS gift cards from being included in many major retailer sales, as well as stupidly raising the price of games, so I sold it for a profit and bought a disc version. Sony can get fucked. If I ever buy their games again, it'll be cheap and used.
PS+ in asia is not a beta release. What you talked about was still nonsense. They seemingly changed it, because people complained instead of finding weird reasons why this is justified.
That doesn't excuse them for trying to do this in the first place.
Digital consoles are fine if you are patient. If you want to play big AAA games on release, it is terrible. But at least right now, they put decent amount of good PS5 games on their new service, so for ~$100 per year (and there probably will be discounts) you can play them, so it is not that bad for some.
[Update: Sony Responds & Refunds]
Alright can someone explain what this means for me. My PS Plus is expired and I was planning to renew to either the Essential or Extra tier (depends on the final games list for NA). Can I still buy a discounted 12-month card online? Or will I be charged the difference between the discounted price and the full price?
not one bit lol, but at least it is officially not happening
Sony will never again introduce a new product or service without me being heavily skeptical. They lost most of the trust I had in them as a customer with this.
Don't believe their lies.jpg
That tag "33% off" was coded and added for this purpose.
They backtracked it wasn't an error.
That tag "33% off" was coded and added for this purpose.
They backtracked it wasn't an error.
That tag was there so that Sony can correctly refund people if necessary...
Have been / will be refunded.
That tag was there to upcharge people
Wouldn't need to refund people if they didn't put the tag there in the first place
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