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PS1 games on Asian PSN for $5-9, includes CRT Filter, Rewind, Trophies Optional, Scaling, Screenshots
- Thread starter brokenswiftie
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I think I want to see these on a TV before making any kind of definite judgement, but on first glance the CRT filter doesn't appear to be doing much other than darkening the image.Default filter
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There wasn't really last time either, in Europe most PSOne Classics cost €5 but the Final Fantasy games (and a few others) cost €10. There might be a few pricing tiers this time around as well.
Worms Armageddon for double the price of Worms World Party is an odd one. It's not like there's major differences between those games.
Some of the old load times in games were hard-coded, with the games just showing a loading screen for a pre-defined amount of time that was the maximum that the game was likely to take to load, so depending on the game being talked about here that might be what's happening. Sony probably aren't going to touch those so some games are likely to have long "load" times even though actual data loading is happening much faster.
That's actually a really nice suite of improvements, if that's what we can expect. Wasn't expecting increased FPS, so maybe we'll finally see Vagrant Story at 60fps? Make it happen, Sony/SE!
I'll die happy if they somehow get the OG Crash and Spyro games up on there but I don't think Activision would ever let that happen now with the remakes still fresh in the minds of the populace.
That's already available on PS4/PS5!
Would be nice to get the classic ones too though.
I haven't checked, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was literally the same price as on PS3. I mean it's the same license so it'd be weird to charge less depending on which console you were buying from.
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Even if they are not so good ports, FFVI and Chrono Trigger haven't gotten console ports so the PS1 copies I have would be awesome. Maybe the load times even get better.
Totally possible. It'd explain the lack of a price for Ridge Racer 2 as well since that never got a downloadable release outside of Japan. Would also explain the weirdo Worms pricing.
Aren't there only 60 something Xbox BC games. By pure numbers 54 PS2 games isn't some disaster if Xbox is the standard. What matters more is getting the big games that people want. Although many of those have been remastered or remade over years.
HOLY SHIT! Cheaper than I expected by a little bit, sad that Abe's Odyssey doesn't have trophies, doubt I'll play that one
Wow no jaggies? This has to be ps4/5 upscale at work?
This looks so good.
Damn, modern filter looks great! The image looks more organic, like CRT, without the downside of the scanlines.Default filter
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On the other hand, CRT looks better zoomed in...
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They'd be cool, and I certainly wouldn't say no to them, but I still kinda think we'd just get ports by Square if they want them on PS5, like the PC version of Chrono Trigger, or the FF Pixel Remasters. Feels more likely for them, specifically. I'd say they're the only publisher pretty much where actual ports would be more likely than a PS Classics release.
AFAIK, this isn't actually upscaling (such as on PS3). The games are actually being internally rendered at a higher resolution, sort of like Xbox BC games or N64 games on NSO, which is why they look so good.
Yeah the PS2 Classics range isn't that bad, and there's a ton of remasters that have come out over the years. For me the big missing ones are MGS which are supposedly happening, and then some Xenosaga would be nice.
If you open the images in a new tab the CRT filter is much more apparent (at least on a monitor, not sure if that also comes across on a phone) compared to the embedded versions.
That's awesome! I hope ps2 games run in this method or I guess hope they get same emu settings.
No chance every game can be played online like with Nintendo's Switch emulator? Either way, this looks good. I missed out pretty much every Sony generation except for PS4 and PS5, so a whole lot of games I'll finally get to play!
Damn, hopefully something that can be improved later on, I bet the emulator they are using isn't some static thing they can't touch later on
For me, the issue is the poor selection of the games, themselves. Too many of Sony's own games in particular didn't make the cut.
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I tried it on my OLED TV
the CRT filter massively improves the image quality
I wish the PS5 could read PS1/2 discs and bc would work like on Xbox.
I would be all over this.
Still no mention on whether we PAL people get to play NTSC versions I guess?
I would be all over this.
Still no mention on whether we PAL people get to play NTSC versions I guess?
Ah, that does make the difference clear, thanks.zoom in
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Looks like one of the more inoffensive CRT filters, I'll still wait to see it to judge it properly but at least it doesn't look as bad as a lot of them.
Not sure how much this will mean but the load time for FFVI didn't noticeably improve on PS3 when played off a hard drive that should have loaded much faster than a PlayStation's ancient 2x CD drive. Unless Sony do something quite different here I'd still expect original-CD-type load times.
Yeah PSP games often clean up very well when rendered at higher resolutions, and Ridge Racer's art direction helps that along quite a bit. Some of the cars are low poly and also have lots of 2D elements near the back so they're going to look a bit crap in 4K, but the stage themselves will generally look fine. Probably better than a lot of people expected.
Well, that's if we get PS2 games. They aren't confirmed for the service unfortunately, and there aren't any at the launch of this service (that we know of, at least), aside from the older PS2 Classics that were already on PS4. Those games did actually have increased resolution as well (somewhere around 900p on average), but also had various emulation issues, and a number of them don't work properly on PS5 atm. No confirmation from Sony yet on if we'll get any new ones.
Yeah, as someone that doesn't like CRT filters this may be the best thing
I wonder if the distinction actually only matters with PS2 Classics? Maybe the PS2 stuff currently available on PS4 will stay the same while PS5 gets those same games running on a new PS2 emulator? Probably not but just a theory.
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Could be them thinking ahead to when the PS4 is where the PS3 currently is for Sony. When they remove PS4 games from the web store it's easier to remove them if they're separate entries instead of sharing a store page?
Both of the Worms games for the Asia regions have the original PAL disc IDs within their new PS4 content ids:
Worms Armageddon
EP4064-CUSA33245_00-SLES022170000000
Worms World Party
EP4064-CUSA33247_00-SLES038040000000
It needs someone to play them to determine whether they've done anything to them to make them suitable for running on 60hz displays.
Oh that's true. I forgot that they're for some reason considering those PS2 games as PS4 games. Very weird distinction.
I wonder if we'll see some at native 4K on PS5, it should be possible right?
Seems like Sony is putting a lot more effort into these then I was expecting. If these classic titles are made available to purchase outside of the subscription then I'll definitely buy a bunch.
Right? They were fine with it on PS3! Just let me put the disc in and download an emulator if you don't think it'll run as well
Unfortunately the PS5 disc drive isn't compatible with the discs
The Worms games said no online, but has local multiplayer I believe.
Edit- corrected...Worms Party does.
I have a feeling it's gonna be a mix of both and it will be a shit show
It should, but i don't expect them to differentiate between ps4 and ps5 when running these games (hence why these are 1080p screenshots upscaled to 4k).
Worms World Party [PS1 Emulation] (English)
Experience Worms World Party originally released on the PlayStation® console, enhanced with up-rendering, rewind, quick save, and custom video filters. With both single player and up to 6 players leading their worms into manic multiplayer mayhem, this unique, wacky, outrageous, addictive and...
store.playstation.com
The descriptions for Worm's World Party confirms online play.
I'll reserve my judgment on the CRT filters until I can see it in motion. Good CRT filters are too far and few between these days.
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That's kind of bad news.
They could be speeding them up by 20% to run at 60Hz anyway, but that won't work well with all games and also isn't something Sony have done before.
Hopefully they're something else going on, like maybe the product IDs are just used generically and it's the NTSC version they're uploading, or there's a choice of version, or just a few games are PAL versions and the rest are NTSC. I kind of suspect Sony have fucked this up again though, because they've fucked it up every other time they've done any kind of PlayStation compatibility.
At least PSP games are free from this nonsense.