1. DanteLinkX

    DanteLinkX
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    I am amazed at this, I though it wouldnt be possible but according to this spanish site, you can now fully load/dump ps4 files into .pkg and load them too on firmware 4.01. Supposedly a hack for firmware 5.01 is on the way too.

    What I find most interesting is the unlock of ps2 emulation.

    EDIT: I got the version wrong, its actually 4.05. And also I dont know if this violates any rules of the site. If it does, please lock/delete thread.
     
  2. LewieP

    LewieP
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    Holy shit. I wasn't sure if PS2 emulation would be possible. Great to see it.

    I'm just disappointed my PS4 is on 4.50.
     
  3. Jacob LeBeau

    Jacob LeBeau
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    It had to happen sometime
     
  4. mrtl

    mrtl
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    Yeah, some combination of hacks including PS4Hen allow for packages to be installed.

    Can't wait for the ban whining.
     
  5. Vashetti

    Vashetti
    Member

    Have they tried PS1 ISOs?

    Eurogamer reported several years ago that Sony was working on PS1 and PS2 emulation. I'm curious if the PS1 emulator is there too.
     
  6. DanteLinkX

    DanteLinkX
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    I would bet it is possible, I see no reason why not, also everything sony has natively played ps1 games (except ps4 for now, but ps2, ps3, psp and vita do).
     
  7. JetSetRadio

    JetSetRadio
    Member

    That's cool, I kept my old PS4 as back up when I got a pro at launch. Would love to use it to play PS2 games, awesome!
     
  8. Oceko

    Oceko
    Member

    The PS4 HAS a ps2 emulator?
     
  9. 2Blackcats

    2Blackcats
    Member

    So can it play discs or is piracy only?
     
  10. DanteLinkX

    DanteLinkX
    Member OP

    Yes, there are even some ps2 games on the store IIRC
     
  11. Hope

    Hope
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    Is this good news?
     
  12. Lysistrata

    Lysistrata
    Self-Requested Ban Member

    Correct. I have Primal on my PS4 Pro and besides upping the resolution and a texture clean it's basically still a PS2 game.
     
  13. Not if you like to play games online. Cheaters are coming.
     
  14. Aprikurt

    Aprikurt
    Member

    No thanks, I’m going to keep my PS4 clean and play the 12 obscure PS2 games God intended me to play.
     
  15. darkwing

    darkwing
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    unfortunate consequence
     
  16. Hacked consoles get banned pretty fast on PSN. Insanely fast actually.
     
  17. Anth0ny

    Anth0ny
    Member

    Oh shit.

    I'll keep my pro for online play and hack the shit out of my OG ps4 for this
     
  18. DanteLinkX

    DanteLinkX
    Member OP

    It depends, for sony it can be both, since ps4 hardware sales might see a raise in some third world/emergent countries where people cant buy games because they are usually 2x the price so they dont buy the hardware (this in no way justifies loading backups/doing piracy tho), it could also mean bad news because now people can pirate software and that would definitely make a dent on software sales and third party developers.
     
  19. Vashetti

    Vashetti
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    How are people still not realising this?

    Those PS2 Classics (with Trophies) on the PS Store are literally PS2 .ISO files in an emulation wrapper to allow for Trophies, screenshots, SharePlay, etc.
     
  20. chandoog

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  21. BernardoOne

    BernardoOne
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    Considering this is on 4.05, no, they aren't.
     
  22. valentine71

    valentine71
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    Not surprised at all, PS3 (all models including Slims and Super Slims) had a complete and working emulator which worked flawlessly with all PS2 games. It was unlocked and released by some dev on jailbroken consoles. I don't know why Sony never released it to public though. Don't know anything about licencing, could that be the reason?
     
  23. Vashetti

    Vashetti
    Member

    Possibly. Cynically you could say they want you to purchase from their store.
     
  24. liquidtmd

    liquidtmd
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    You have to update to connect to PSN most times when prompted

    5.50 did
     
  25. Mikey Jr.

    Mikey Jr.
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    So wait....Sony is purposely not releasing the PS2 emulator that every PS4 has? And probably the PS1 emulator that more then likely exists?
     
  26. ethomaz

    ethomaz
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    How do you think all the 50+ PS2 to PS4 games runs???

    Sony is using the PS2 emulator on PS4... there are more than 50 games running with it.
     
  27. But, fucking Sony won't even give us PS1 games. So stupid.
     
  28. When you open the door for custom firmware, it will be possible to update the firmware with another CFW which is based on a newer version. The only requirement is that your console is on 4.05 when you hack it. That's how PS3 online games continued to have cheaters even after the exploit was patched.
     
  29. BernardoOne

    BernardoOne
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    Has jackshit to do with licensing, it's just pure greed. They could allow you to play any PS2 discs. They could allow you to play your PS2 classics on your PS4. The only reason they don't is money.
     
  30. 2Blackcats

    2Blackcats
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    I'm pretty sure it wasn't flawless.
     
  31. LewieP

    LewieP
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    This is a really dumb question.

    You can very easily make isos from your PS2 discs.

    As far as I can tell, it does not support discs, because you need to package up the iso as a pkg file, which can then be installed.

    Maybe they will figure out a way to add disc support later.

    It is extremely asinine to suggest that people copying games they have bought from one format to another format are pirates.
     
  32. Vankash

    Vankash
    Member

    Faking a newer firmware will eventually come
    or CFW of newer firmwares.
    Thats how PS3,PSP had hackers
     
  33. ....I just updated yesterday for the Monster Hunter beta.....which I didn't like and played for 30 mins...

    FUCK.
     
  34. Vashetti

    Vashetti
    Member

    Your PS4 was still on ~4.00?!
     
  35. And anyone who knows about going online with any hacked PlayStation system, it is usually banned within the hour or mere hours.

    It will not be an issue like people are trying to make it out to be.
     
  36. Palette Swap

    Palette Swap
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    Re: cheating, this could open up save editing on PS4 though, and ultimately cheating on non-hacked consoles. That’s typically what happened with Diablo on PS3.

    (I don’t know the current state of save hacking on PS4 though, so this might be immaterial if Save editing is already a thing)

    This hasn’t happened with henkaku on Vita. There were bans at one point, but IIRC, they were because NEAR wouldn’t work but consoles kept sending requests, so the hammering was seen as DdoS attempts.
    I guess Sony just doesn’t care about Vita.
     
  37. Vankash

    Vankash
    Member

    Why allowing people to play their old games for free if you could charge them?
     
  38. Fox Mulder

    Fox Mulder
    Member

    What a crime. They made a ps2 emulator and won't give it for free. Theyve also added features to the ps2 games they've added to the store.
     
  39. Mhj

    Mhj
    Member

    Why release the emulator when they can charge you for each game?
     
  40. Gitaroo

    Gitaroo
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    Was it really a completely working emu? last time I read a few years ago certain games work but not every; infact many didn't. There was a compatible listed created by the scene. Ps2 games were tested before they release on psn, they could be just an iso rip but sony still have to make sure it works first before they sell it on psn. I imagine it is also the same case for ps4. Infact, same on xbox one, they don't just recompile every single games they want without properly tested.
     
  41. 2Blackcats

    2Blackcats
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    Sorry, that's not how I meant it.

    Yeah, obviously people who are backing up their own games to use aren't pirates.

    It would just be easier to download then do that. Is torrenting a game you own considered piracy?
     
  42. chandoog

    chandoog
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    If you've been updating your PS4 routinely, you are *way* ahead of 4.00 .. you're on 5.05 or something now.

    For most normal users this won't be useful until a firmware downgrader is also introduced.

    The PS3 emulator could run a huge majority of the library, only some specific games would not work. For example, FFXII International Zodiac runs 100% flawlessly without being officially "supported" ... played it myself.

    Also people were playing Persona 4 on the PS3 more than a year before Atlus officially released the PS2 verison on PSN.

    The only 'enhancements' you could do on the emulator was a smoothing filter which added a slight blur for the jaggies, there were no resolution enhancements in it at all.
     
  43. How did you get all of that from the poster you quoted? He or she asked a simple question. Maybe they're not as knowledgeable on how to do this stuff so they simply tossed out a question. No need to be condescending.
     
  44. DigitalOp

    DigitalOp
    Member

    Wow.. the emulator was sitting there the whole time
     
  45. Blizzard had an oversight and stored everything on the save file instead of server side like most looters do now (i.e. Warfare, Destiny, Fortnite, etc..).
     
  46. Vashetti

    Vashetti
    Member

    Well yeah, there've been PS2 games available on the PS4 Store since late-2015.
     
  47. Oceko

    Oceko
    Member

    Yeah, but I thought that they were somehow ported for PS4, not that they did run directly on an emulator that was already installed on the firmware...

    My point is that if the emulator is working and it's already on my PS4, why I can't play my Devil Summoner 2 physical copy? The hackers were able to get working Klonoa 2 and Shinobi, so I don't see why I have to wait for Sony to upload the games on the store.

    I guess we need to see first how many games are really compatible with the emulator.
     
  48. GhostTrick

    GhostTrick
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    Of course it is lol. Sony developped an emulator. If they actually cared, you could put your PS2 discs and play them. But hey, it's easier to resell them.
     
  49. Vashetti

    Vashetti
    Member

    http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-hands-on-with-ps4-playstation2-emulation
     
  50. Danneee

    Danneee
    Member

    Awesome, can't wait for PS5 so I can use my PS4 as a PS2 emulator:)

    If nothing else.just to be able to play Sega Rally 1 haha.