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PS4 sell through at 91.6 million as of Dec 31st 2018. Spider-Man sell through over 9 million. (Sony PR)
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What? Spider- Man sold 9 M in 2 months and 3 weeks. To put things in perspective Horizon Zero Dawn sold 3.4 M in 2 months and 7.8 M in 12 months.
Spidey will sell more than 15 M without any problems.
i am glad i bought the ps4. to be honest thought, i had the original ps4. the ps4 pro and i changed my ps4 pro for the new ps4 pro with a quiter fan. i just finished god of war and i am buying spiderman once that goes under 30 euro. i had some of the best experiences and also own the vr since a month. this generation has been amazing, i think i will stop buying games this year and save up for the ps5.
Not really that much more expensive, SSDs are shockingly cheap these days, especially the small ones that're comparible to the flash drives you're bringing up. The main reason why retail flash drives tend to be cheaper is because they're much lower quality but it's not like Sony's going to buy those off retail shelves or even buy dirt cheap flash memory from manufacturers, so it's a bit of a pointless debate.
Personally, I think shipping a PS3 with only 12GB was a mistake in the first place, so saying "they should do that again" isn't really a convincing argument to me. From what I recall, even though it helped lower the PS3's price it didn't actually help sales all that much and it wasn't exactly a good look in the media. So I think if they're going to do it they need to include enough storage so that players can comfortably use their console without an asterisk at the end saying they need to buy an internal or external HDD as well.
Impossible to say. Sony can (and probably will) re-release it in another bundle, as a GOTY/remastered edition for PSPro, or blow it out on PSN sales with regularity when its getting long in the tooth.
Who knows where the ceiling is on it.
i saw this coming a while back :) i am not sure if god of war or spiderman sold more thought.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/ca...-war-commercially.59158/page-10#post-11102162
If we're talking cost cutting then it doesn't matter how much cheaper flash is than an SSD. if Sony saves 10 dollars a unit thats still worth it because you're on a scale where you're manufacturing millions of the things. You make even 2 million with flash instead of an SSD you've just saved Sony 20 million in cash and that's not trivial.
If you have sales data on the ps3 super slim I'd love to see it. Other wise this is just conjecture on how you personally feel about such a system.
By and large, systems like the super slim arent FOR enthusiasts who post on boards like this, they're for people looking for the cheapest possible option. You don't think its a good look? Wonderful. Sony wasn't making those for you.
All we can say with any certainty without sales data is that Sony felt that 12GB system was profitable enough to start manufacturing them. So it could be done, has been done.
And once again your objection ignores that PSNOW exists. Someone going that route needs barely any storage space at all. Its not a likely route for anyone posting in this thread, but it might make sense to someone looking for a cheap Netflix box that can stream the occasional game.
Edit: and before the "PSNOW SUCKS" crew chimes in, latest data shows that between july and september of 2008, PSNOW controlled 52% of gaming subscription services, ahead of gamepass at 15% and EA Access at 16%.
https://www.thesixthaxis.com/2018/1...ounts-for-52-of-gaming-subscription-services/
People are signing up for that at a fair clip, even if the value proposition isn't there for the hardcore.
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I knew it would sell well, but 9 million in less than three months is insane. Especially when you consider that December has to be counted too.
I honestly expect Sony to push their big 3 games as Ps5 games like Nintendo with botw.
So I honestly think they won't release the games in 2019, but also Ps5 is 2020.
At this point, it's in Sony's best interest to push Ps5. Releasing tlou2 as ps4 only most likely won't move the hardware needle very much, and probably doesn't have to with 100+ million ps4 sold.
But pushing those games as Ps5 games like botw on the switch?
Could give them a huge momentum push right out the gate.
So I honestly think they won't release the games in 2019, but also Ps5 is 2020.
At this point, it's in Sony's best interest to push Ps5. Releasing tlou2 as ps4 only most likely won't move the hardware needle very much, and probably doesn't have to with 100+ million ps4 sold.
But pushing those games as Ps5 games like botw on the switch?
Could give them a huge momentum push right out the gate.
There was a different model released (looks identical) that apparently ran quieter then the first Pro model.The PS4 Pro and you changed your PS4 Pro for the new PS4 Pro?
which is why i said 128-200 GB and not 12GB, try to keep up.
edit: the base PS4 doesn't even do 4K in the first place? It's 1080p, exactly as the PS3 is.
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Yeah thanks for clarifying that, I know. But read his sentence.
Yeah it was quite difficult to read, which was why i thought maybe you didnt understand :P
Im not talking about the size. I'm talking about he speed and the amount it can read/write. 128gb flash drive that reliable and fast? might as well get a 256gb SSD
PS3 didnt install most of it's games first and didnt rely on the HD as much as the PS4.
I have a Pro but I'd totally buy a 7nm super slim if it's $200 and at least 40% smaller than current slim. I'm a sucker for slim models
91M is crazy. It should do another 15M easy in 2019 if not more. I could see it at 105M this time next year and depending on price, maybe 110M.
If PS5 is holiday 2020, then the PS4 should do another 10M in 2020 minimum, probably more.
Could be 115-120M by the time PS5 ships if it's holiday 2020.
91M is crazy. It should do another 15M easy in 2019 if not more. I could see it at 105M this time next year and depending on price, maybe 110M.
If PS5 is holiday 2020, then the PS4 should do another 10M in 2020 minimum, probably more.
Could be 115-120M by the time PS5 ships if it's holiday 2020.
PS3 games almost all required some form of install by the time the super slim launched in 2013- 7 full years after the OG ps3 launched in 2006. Every single game on that system was at least 720p with most flagship games supporting 1080p.
Sony's message with that was that if you needed something high performance, that wasn't for you, or you could install your own drive.
That message is still valid if not moreso, since the PS4 supports external drives (the ps3 did not), and there is a streaming option that does not require a ton of hard drive space.
I'm not sure why we're still debating this, since the original premise of "this can't be done" was already disproven. The only issue is whether Sony thinks it's a good idea (and the 12GB stayed in production for 3 years) and none of us can answer that.
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It needs to stop. It's become predictable and boring. What makes it worse is that one person said it. Since then ERA has taken one fucking persons opinion and turned it into the opinion of the masses
Well, Kinect sold half of that, and it was a shitty gimmick. Mostly because tracking latency is an order of magnitude too high.
PSVR is actually not a shitty gimmick. Its tracking latency is fantastic and VR is the future and whatnot.
In a just world, PSVR should have sold twice as much as Kinect. It's only in hindsight that we can see what a pipe dream that was :)
PSVR costs far more, I don't think 50M is realistic in PS4's lifetime.
I think I can answer that! Sony thinks it's a bad idea.
They're going to probably run with hybrid drives in order to maximize their profit margins early on. SSD, flash memory, etc...simply isn't happening (this generation or next).
It's one of the most funny and at the same time ridiculous and absurd quotes ever made on this site about the most famous and beloved superhero in the world. It has become a meme and a running gag. It certainly does not have to stop. It's funny as fuck now that Spider-Man is destroying multiplatform games in sales.
After PS5 launch they should roll out that 299.- PS4VR bundle I predicted (aka dreamed about) back on the old forum ;) but maybe by the time it'll be obsolete because of cheap standalone headsets, I don't know.
Yeah that's a REALLY high number. If we anticipate 120m people buy a ps4, that means about 42%....damn near half...of the ps4 userbase bought a $200+ accessory.
That's absurd and cant possibly have been a target Sony intended for the ps4 lifespan
It's not only unrealistic, it's straight up impossible.
You're correct that Kinect cost 199 and PSVR cost 299 + optional PS move wands. I forgot about that. Yes, that definitely had a huge negative impact for sure. I
Wiki has Kinect at 35 million in 7 years.
Also, your preference blinds you.
Agreed. We are coming to that point where unit sales will no longer matter. It's about services and support. Hardware is cheap and almost worthless. I wouldn't be surprised if we never knew how many consoles any of them sold at some point today just what the MAU, engagement, revenue per user, whatever.
Are you arguing about Kinect's performance? I don't feel like it performed very well and that's one of the reasons it was dropped from the Xbox One (along with price reduction).
35 million only bolsters my argument further so thanks for the correction.
I vastly prefer VR to Kinect. I don't think that's a controversial opinion in the least so i'm puzzled by your comment.
Not to mention the product itself has been discontinued for well over a year now.
Even if we look at the Kinect and PSVR two year track record, the Kinect is still higher by a vast number. It was only Kinect V2 that had a bad time and that's probably sold more than the PSVR.
You don't reach 35 million by being "shitty" that's just pure delusion.
I owned 2 Kinects. Kinect 1 and Kinect 2. They. Were. Garbage. Because. Of. Too. High. Latency.
If you wish to argue that Kinect is great, the floor is yours. Please tell us about your wonderful experiences with Kinect, and tell me the last time you played a Kinect game.
Kinect also cost 1/3rd of PSVR when it launched.
Anyway Sony's expectations actually underestimated initial market-demand, and that in turn was obviously nowhere near Kinect (let alone 2xKinect) so any wishful thinking came from fans, not manufacturers (this goes for PCVR sales as well).
This can't be understated. My friend worked on marketing for the Move and I remember thinking sales must've been disappointing, but Sony told them sales met their expectations and they were happy with their work. Made me realize how out of whack expectations can be between a gaming forum and the actual companies making the products.
Just like the PS4 sales talk. Sony is probably fine with sales. There is no reason to drop the price or push heavy promotions if they're meeting their internal expectations.
I didn't tout the Kinect as a great product because frankly it isn't, what I did say was you don't get to 35 million by being "shitty" which is true for most parts. Being emotional over a product is sad.
Then why are you trying to pick some weird argument if you agree?
And did you just call me emotional and pathetic? Srsly? kbye.
PSVR launched with a $399 price. Without anything bundled (standard SKU). It will reach 4 million units sold soon-ish. So imo these are very good numbers so far :)
