Arkaign Member Nov 25, 2017 1,836 Dec 9, 2019 #1 So, the rumor mills and speculation are heating up, and this will only continue through until all the details are fully known in every respect (teardowns etc of final models). Chief around this are rumors of 9.X to 12.9 TF, 8C/16T Zen2, Raytracing hardware, nVME drives (use more power than typical SATA SSD due to higher clocks/utilization) etc. In the absolutely most optimistic range of 7nm 3.5 Zen2 and 9.75TF Navi, a console of this spec would draw 280-290W easily at load. Compare this to Xbox One X peaking at 171W load, PS4 Pro in the 140W range, and you get an idea that this is going to mean some interesting design choices for 9th gen, and this power chasing may end up with consoles having to choose two of the three : Fast Loud Big Rumors of 12-12.9TF nets you deep into the 300W range, if not closer to 400W (higher clocks lower efficiency, along with 7nm thermal density challenges). At that point, you have a big external brick with a fan, or a genuinely PC sized box. Personally, I'd be ok with something about the size of a typical surround sound receiver if it meant something very quiet, cool running, and powerful. But it would really be a big adjustment for consumers used to relatively small units. What do you think?