What about HDDs? Have they hit something of a floor? I would've thought that 2-4TB HDDs would continue to get cheaper for a while yet.
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PS5 and next Xbox launch speculation - Post E3 2018
- Thread starter Phoenix Splash
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What about HDDs? Have they hit something of a floor? I would've thought that 2-4TB HDDs would continue to get cheaper for a while yet.
HDDs will continue to improve in top capacity, but I think the price floor is pretty well established. With SSDs, $/GB will continue to fall and we've not yet reached the point where minimum capacity SSDs are anywhere near what consoles would need for it as the sole drive included.
I am completely guessing here, but the mechanical/packaging costs of SSDs probably have a lower base than the enclosure, electromechanicals etc. associated with a traditional platter drive.
How long do you think it might be before HDDs hit a capacity ceiling and SSDs actually overtake them? I've heard before that SSDs are potentially capable of storing more data than can physicality fit on a platter drive.
It would be better for Sony and Microsoft to invest this money on exclusives.
A $100 loss on each console would cost them 100M (the price of an AAA) for each million of console sold. If you're Sony or Microsoft, do you prefer invest 750M$ (Sony shipped 7.5M PlayStation 4 during the first FY) in selling you hardware at a loss or on 7 AAA like God of War, Spider-Man or Uncharted 4?
Losses would only be at the highest at launch and then lower over time...Sony are in a strong position with software and might also use some of their advertising budget for PS5 to get a bit more of a technical edge (let's face it, they won't need to market PS5 as much as PS4). Remember, this time Sony have money in the bank, last time they didn't and were losing money badly.
I'm not suggesting big losses, but I think we could see an increase on PS4...maybe a BoM (whatever that $381 figure is above) up to $50 more than retail.
This is why I only counted the first FY (between November 2013 and March 2014). And if they need to reduce the loss, they won't be able to be aggressive with price cuts/deals/bundles.
Selling a console with a huge loss is a big mistake than nobody will do again, I think. If you have money to spend, invest it in exclusives, you will have a better ROI.
PS4 was making a profit within 6 months with no price drop...and who knows what Sony are thinking about to subsidise anything. Anyway, I'm not suggesting a huge loss, just maybe larger than PS4.
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A NAND Flash Cache (~64GB) + a HBCC Memory Controller will make for a relatively cheap and very effective buffer; think PrimoCache / AMD StoreMI / Intel Optane... but bigger and smarter.
Some rough Xbox "FIVE" logo ideas, clicky thumbs for more..
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I like your fonts. Cool look.
DLSS is basically a reconstruction technique nVidia invented as a post hoc justification for including HPC-focused tensor cores in their consumer line of GPUs. It's extremely limited in a lot of ways compared to most other reconstruction approaches for a number of reasons. First: nVidia has to profile your game using their supercomputer. If you are indie, or just not high profile enough or, god forbid, signed to a marketing deal with AMD you are not going to get DLSS support. DLSS requires specialized hardware. You are required to dedicated die space in your GPU to tenor cores that otherwise offer dubious benefits to gaming. In theory a supercomputer could be used to generate specialized reconstruction techniques that could run on normal shader hardware, but that is contrary to nVidia's business needs. DLSS only works on specified resolutions. nVidia has to create a profile for each resolution case so there is no ability to balance your resolution outside the use case they intend. Are you using an ultrawide screen resolution, or otherwise would like to target something other than official output res nVidia chose, you are SOL. You also can't use dynamic resolution to maintain performance.
Why not just XBOX V?Some rough Xbox "FIVE" logo ideas, clicky thumbs for more..
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Still, I find it silly to skip 4. It just seems
Childish to do so somehow.
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Some rough Xbox "FIVE" logo ideas, clicky thumbs for more..
Launch Lineup:
Mid-Gen Refresh:
I like this! How would a more light version look like? Like the white and green from the 360 era. What if they just call it "Xbox 720" lol
OK, but it's just assumptions. PS5 could be more expensive than you theorise because Sony also wants the most powerful platform for the next-generation. It could be $449 or $499 or whatever Sony deem to be practical. I would have thought 1st party software would also have a relative affect on value rather than just hardware.
Oh yeah I know. I just thought I would ask you the question.