Yeah while I'm curious about the GPUs in next gen consoles I think it's safe to say that it's probably the most predictable and least important part of what next gen will be. Very excited for the CPU bump. It'll almost feel like a two gen leap for devs on that front.
One of the demos Nvidia showed (the one that was twice as fast with RTX) was already using an advanced checkerboard-like neural network technique to get above 30fps. It's just not happening this gen.
I'm not knowledgeable enough in old console CPUs to say.
If I had to hazard a guess I would say it's probably not quite that huge but it is substantial, especially considering what devs have been able to do on the jaguars
One benefit is the lack of ISA change. Devs don't have to completely change their tools to target a different ISA with differing strengths and weaknesses. Compared to Jaguar, Zen is only strengths.
you cant do raytracing without it though, normal gpu tech are decades away from being good enough to do it. the special hardware is the only way .
Nvidia did both, the common shader cores have lower latency per operation and a much better cache system which also has lower latencies and higher capacities.
If Zen or Zen2 will go into the PS5 might be easier to judge when we know how Zen2 looks like.
You might want to lower your expectations a little bit.
Hmm..I dunno..I mean,Ryzen 2700x is on a 12nm (really 16nm) process and the jump to 7nm should be really substantial regarding die space and with AMD rumored to be doubling the amount of cores per CCX to 8 from 4 it might be possible, and like I said,I'm talking about an underclocked Ryzen 2700X,it's not out of the realm of possibility it will be almost 3 years old by the time next gen releases.
Why would they use a 3 years old CPU for their console? Even Jaguar was not one year old in 2013. They'll use a new design: Zen 3.
I'm not saying they will USE a Ryzen 2700X I was talking about the ballpark in terms of computational power their CPU part of choice will be comparable to. And Zen 3 is really unlikeley because it's a 2020 design on a 7nm+ node and I don't think either will be ready in time to meet Sony's production schedule.
As I keep reminding people, the main source of battery drain is the touchpad. To argue for the removal of light bar is misguded if batterylife is what you are after.
Infinity Fabric would allow custom blocks without impacting BC. According to a whitepaper, a matrix math block supporting coarse Ray Tracing is tiny. That paper mentions GCN GPUs and it's publish date is also 2014 which allows enough time to be in Navi or a PS4 iteration (still GCN so still possibly called PS4).
An example of a feature only in the PS4 that game developers do not support so why is it in the PS4? 2020 ATSC 3.0 ramps and all PS4s are designed to support it, including the touchpad. Due to financial reasons (need multiple channels) 1080P will be the highest resolution on OTA ATSC 3.0 and all PS4s support UHD 1080P + HDR and depthmap.
Since the battery complaint is the main argument against the lightbar in every thread that mentions it, I an not sure what is the point otherwise.
So the only major difference between a Ryzen2700E to a 2700X is the clocks? I guess we could expect a theoretical Ryzen 3700E (?) to be substantially more powerful and still be a 45w TDP part?
More or less. It's the same silicon at least. They are binned differently so one may not be capable of the others' performance parameters.
Sony Interactive Entertainment encompasses the Playstation and Network Services branches. It's what SCE became last year.
should have been clear, I meant trouble on the gpu side. their cpu side is fine.
Yes. UMC has fallen behind as well, and Intel hasn't manufactured any direct competitors' products.
