I mean, this is why die size is talked about, in regard to any chip.
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PS5 and Xbox Series speculation launch thread |OT9| - For flops sake!
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He would have used a dead drop box to get you the specs and let you tease info over a year.
In exchange, you must delete all articles mentioning the Zune.
For sure, I'm not the type of reporter to just pick up people's forum posts and run with them :) Prefer to have these types of discussions.
I think the only one that has not made it to PC is Spider-Man.
The StayOnline chart is an odd outlier. Every other IEC reference I've seen cites the limit as 2.5A in North America as well for the C7/C8 style connector. Not that the most recent port depiction is clear enough to know what type of connector is actually being used for power.
Well you would be wrong even if you counting PSNow and they get take off after a while and come out years later .
For eg HZD , UC , GT , GOW , TLOU , DG , spidey just to name a few not on PC.
uncharted, horizon, killzone, ratchet, infamous, tlou, god of war... What is on pc??
Are you trolling us or just don't know what you talking about .
Albert,
Thanks for dropping in.
I can't quite remember if you've covered this before but in the early stages what comes first:
1. Target Pricing
2. Expected Tech Available Upon Launch
Also, how does this change over time? When a target price is set is the goal to maximize performance and BOM versus that price? Or can the pricing change as available technology visibility improves?
My sense is you start with a target price and BOM and work backwards from launch to figure out what is possible and go from there.
I played most of those on PC.
Now that you mention it I did forget about GT. So that's 2 games.
Your talking about PS now right ?
Like i said not everyone wants to play games years later and with crap setting compare to there hardware .
Plus you don't even know when Sony going to put them up and that only start happening recently .
I was telling my self that but there is huge difference from buying a game day one that uses your hardware .
To waiting years later not know when sony going to put there games on Now to play at streaming settings.
Maybe I mis worded.
I meant as in, it reads like you're questioning the validity of what he's saying.
Thanks for the interesting insights on our gaming hobby :) One observation that I would make is that you could argue that Sony has also taken a somewhat different approach this time by doing the two Wired articles out of nowhere much earlier than expected, and maybe even some of the Xbox moves have been because the playing field was evolving on the fly or something too :)
Sure. There's some sacrifices that "not everyone" would want to accept. Never disagreed with that.
But I do know with stadia and xcloud as competition, PSnow will get better going forward.
His comments will be read by others. And no matter how you slice it, purchases on Xbox probably make more money on average for MS than on PC. Also, Microsoft would make much more money if you play 3rd party games - the bulk of the library - on console.
I find it strange that you don't know this.
Microsoft will be happy to capture revenue from you when you buy their games on Steam, but they get ZERO when you buy Assasins Creed on Steam vs when you buy it on Xbox Series X.
Well, based on them being outwardly vague with their responses I would assume there was a certain troll element.
Very interesting stuff. I was reading that this didn't work for Terminator: Dark Fate as it was predicted to do much better in the box office. What's your prediction for PS5? ;)
You're being completely disingenuous about the comparison made earlier. You streamed PS4 games at 720p on PC. Those games did not release PC versions.
When I say "I'll play it on PC" I'm literally talking about the PC version of a title, that I can alter to run at whatever resolution, framerate, etc. that my hardware can run.
The BOM item that's at most a $40 delta from PS4's platter drive?
Both the PS5 and the Series X will have at least one USB C port.
Sony already said there games won't be there on day 1 on PS now .
Maybe it will change later but as for right now PS5 is the only place to play Sony big IPs day 1 .
Very evident that the team at the helm at the time had a massively different vision for the home console. Seemed like they wanted MSN TV 2.0 and pushed that agenda hard, which clearly did not work. I am glad to see MS change course and right the ship, and the renewed focus on XaaS seems like it will pay off in spades. A healthy Xbox and PS are vital for this industry to continue to grow... very glad how things have wound up since that boondoggle of a launch.
With them putting SSD on the board which they going to do IMO .
The cost even less since you also saving on space.
The games are playable on PC. That's all I said.
If your a person that owns a PC you will be able to play the majority of PS5 games on PC. Most will have an official PC release. The ones that don't, will come to PSNow, which as a service will only get better going forward. There's nothing disingenuous about that.
Everyone is trying to do the same thing, but that would have likely come from a different company lol
And it would be incredibly difficult to build a model for a new console sale since the last generation was so long ago and things have changed, whereas movies are constantly coming out.. so you can look at past movie releases and add all of the data to the model and make a better guess. I'm sure MS/Sony are working on such models though lol
My main point was that while advertisers are super focused on bot traffic, companies are still spending big bucks on using this type of data because it is useful and can be used as a predictor. I doubt Sony or MS are using bots; advertising agencies are paying out to thousands and thousands of companies many of them scamming, but while it's not out of the realm of possibility a big player could do it, it's unlikely IMO. The poster who brought up concerns with bots is coming from the perspective of working for an ad agency, so makes total sense they'd lean towards assuming it's unreliable data, but that's more a problem with smaller companies trying to make a splash .
The part you were being disingenuous about was Sony's IPs coming to PC. Streaming PS4 games via PS Now is not a PC version of said titles.
When an MS studio game is released on PC, its a PC version, not the Xbox version being streamed.
I think we should stop talking buisness with Albert Penello and instead discuss the fact that he rocks a fucking M. A. S. K avatar.
Now THAT is respect.
Now THAT is respect.
Exactly; and it's called trolling/baiting.
If you have something to say, say it. "I mean on PS Now" could have avoided about a dozen pointless posts but your goal was to troll, obviously.
You are playing semantics here.
You're the one being disingenuous. Not me
User banned (2 weeks): Trolling over a series of posts. Antagonizing other members. History of similar behavior.
I can only think of SPAM when I see it due to font and color similarity.
When you respond to something about games on specific platforms, the discussion is about those versions. Has nothing to do with console wars. It has to do with actual facts of what a PC version of a title is, versus a PS4 or Xbox version of the same title is. Anyway, I'm done with your trolling / thread derailment. Ignored.
GTX 680 was a 3 TFlop card. Way beyond Xbox One and PS4, but yeah, the new consoles will blow this out of the water.
Even Lockhart will surpass Star Wars 1313 at 1080p/1440p.
Perhaps AMD will unveil their next stuff at Computex at the beginning of June which means both console platforms will have to wait until E3 before they announce what's inside their boxes.
Man some people hopes for next gen have to be low if they asking that lol.
Lol? I trolled and derailed the thread, but posting a tweet of someone saying "I'll just play it on PC" in a "Hardware speculation" thread was not the detail?
Being able to play a game via PSnow on PC is just as viable as any other way of playing a game.
Your problem is wanting to defend that long time "I'll just play it on pc" fanboy argument.
That's not my fault.
We don't have the whole picture. Will they make more money by losing some console sales (and all that come with it), and getting the whole PC market as new potential customers, or to keep going with console exclusives like Sony does ?
Honesly, I'm pretty sure they are (and will) earn more money with their strategy than if they were keeping to the same strategy as Sony. We mustn't forget that this gen, even with a "console only strategy" at the beginning, it didn't went so well. They just are not Sony, and for now at least, I'm pretty sure that most people would go the PS5 route even if Xbox games weren't on PC.
Well I would hope so because it's a demo from 2012 that really doesn't look much better than what we have now
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