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PS5 and Xbox Series speculation launch thread |OT9| - For flops sake!
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The 18tf literally came from resetera. As a joke. Don't give this guy any more attention by posting his tweets.
🤣🤣 we posting that trash in this thread now? I gotta take a break from this thread, next is tidux
Looks like Pachter is sending out his $1k specs around...
1. This is just some random 4chan or Pastebin rumor I've seen linked in here.
2. The devkits being 18 makes no sense anyway
3. Who is this guy?
While it is in fact trash, a break is never a bad idea
They were littering saying they were dming each other yesterday, they are one in the same lol
I'd put money on both Forza's being either next gen only, or the XB1 versions being spun off onto another dev as a reskin of a previous version or down port.
Playground use Turn 10's engine so they'll likely be second out of the gate after Forza 8, and Turn 10 surely will be touting AI, Physics and Ray Tracing only possible on next generation CPU and GPUs.
Not saying there's any credibility to this new "dump," but how are you so sure the email originated from a resetera post?
Yeh..I saw that. I obviously take this all with a large grain of salt. I just want a spec reveal in a month.
Someone joked here about it, in a twitter post earlier about 18tf, it was meant as a joke. This guy's source is basically pastebin/resetera. The more we post about these fake twitter insiders the more it gives them notice and a platform. I just ignore it.
Hopefully these guys just lose all credibility anyway when they are found to be frauds. I don't see an issue with posting their stuff if it comes back on them in a big way when it's proven to be a fake leak that should never have been posted.
Tidux, MisterX, and Marcus Sellers still have a following despite being proven wrong time and time again. Posting them only gives them more reach since people just want to be told what they want to hear.
This is the most stupid thing i ever read here in this forum.
Mods should start ban this type of bullshit here.
Tidux, Foxy, MisterX and such.
Its kinda mind blowing how much shit they throw out and yet people keep eating it up
lmao, there's like 0.02% chance that AMD releases a GPU even approaching 18TF this year, let alone using such a product as a placeholder part in a devkit for a console that will supposedly end up in the 13-14TF range.
I mean, why do people who fake this sort of stuff always go too far with their nonsense?
I mean, why do people who fake this sort of stuff always go too far with their nonsense?
It's premature to make a determination on weather an extended cross gen period will be a good or bad idea. And it's also just a commitment for 1-2yrs, which is not normally the best work from first parties.
I don't think there is only one future. Yes, I think that subscription services will continue to grow. Yes, maybe, streaming services will also grow. But it doesn't mean console will become irrelevant.
I think Sony will continue to sell consoles on which people buy games, play F2P games and subscribe to services (EA Access, Uplay+, Xbox Game Pass). I think Microsoft will stop to sell consoles and will only focus on Xbox Game Pass.
If it happens, both companies would continue to grow. Sony, because they would sell more consoles without their main competitor. Microsoft, because they would focus on what they are better.
Sony's devkits also rarely have extra power and an extra 4-5tflops is absolutely overkill even if they opted to this time. The Xbox One X devkits only have an extra 500gflops.
Yup, if a source proves to be untrustworthy they should be banned, even if it isn't a user on this website.
Good point. Guess I forgot how stubbornly cultish people can be, even outside the political realm.
100TF or bust. If you can shove 2 GPUs in, why not 10?
What I think is kinda funny though is that the same people who say all tweets from certain folks should be banned also can't resist reading them/commenting on those tweets.
I mean really " I can say that the GitHub leak does NOT concern the APU of Playstation 5, but only the next production dedicated to the PC/Mobile sector that AMD has scheduled since 2020 following. In particular, the frequencies in the leak serve as a stress test to determine the maximum frequency point of the chip."
What does the PC/Mobile sector have to do with clocks and CUs matching PS4 and PS4 Pro. Why the heck would anyone ever decide to test those CUs and clocks. What Navi chip will ever have a maximum frequency of 911 mhz.
Even if someone doesn't think that the Github leak is the final chip, this is an awful attempt to hand waive it by making something up.
But the essence of the patent can not change from application to grant. They are often amended or the scope of the patent Claims is narrowed after the review process and/or Opposition proceedings, but the scope can never be broader than in the application. At least that's the European patent law.
No not at all, there was a poll(that was locked) indicating that a good percentage did not believe in the github stuff.
And many still believe in klee.
I have a question and I'm sure people have speculated on it already but please forgive me:
Knowing that Series X will support BC with Xbox One, and many titles will be cross-gen, what is likely to happen if you put a disc copy of the Xbox One version of say, Halo Infinite in the Series X? Will it play just like the Xbox One X version? Will the disc contain both versions/ will the Series X download a patch to upgrade it to the Series X version? I guess if you went the Game Pass route this whole question would be moot but I'm just interested.
Knowing that Series X will support BC with Xbox One, and many titles will be cross-gen, what is likely to happen if you put a disc copy of the Xbox One version of say, Halo Infinite in the Series X? Will it play just like the Xbox One X version? Will the disc contain both versions/ will the Series X download a patch to upgrade it to the Series X version? I guess if you went the Game Pass route this whole question would be moot but I'm just interested.
I would not be surprised at all. I don't have a freaking clue what the PS5 full specs will be, and it's driving me nuts. I don't even want to play games and miss out on any news!
Whilst TF number is a portion of the overall pie (perhaps one of the largest), I am curious to know what is your prediction on that front and that front alone for PS5 (be it a range or singular figure)?
I mean, 18TF could be 2x GPU, say, running 2 5700XTs :D would explain the funky form factor. What if PS5 is going with GPU chiplets?
I asked this question earlier. Someone responded that Gamepass automatically upgrades a game to the full capabilities of the console being used. If that's the case, I can't see MS making OWNERS of these games pay to upgrade them.
Oh yeah I'm right there with you but the person I was responding to was saying how he or she didn't want to spend 500 on a console that had cross gen In the first year which is gonna happen with both imo thus the disappointment
Bigger copper plate, larger fins, 650tdp+ possible.
Might be. I just think that if your prediction turns out to be correct, it would still be better for Sony to focus on PS Now. It's not like having a subscription service that's already in place would really negatively affect Sony and their focus on what they do best, because this kind of platform will most likely be a big part of gaming as a whole.
Adding to that, Sony wouldn't have too much control over Game Pass and its content, and that's too easily fixed just by offering your own service.
Microsoft will also continue to need some kind of easy-to-use device for living rooms with a controller even if it would only have a subscription based nature, and I don't see them relying only on other manufacturers just because there will definitely always be competing subscription services.
It will play the XSX version, just like it is now with X1X.
You are either mixing your services up, or you are being difficult.
For starters, the difference between PSnow and Gamepass/Xcloud, is that currently PSnow is doing with one service that MS is doing with two services. But Xcloud isn't really a thing yet, so chances are high that it gets merged into Gamepas. Xcloud is just an MS version of game streaming. Gamepass is their subscription instant game library service.
Those two things combined = PSnow.
Now a game sold on the PSN, or directly on a sony platform; yes, sony gets 30% (or whatever) on that. A game available in a subscription service is not in any way of the same business model. Sony doesn't get 30% of a subscription fee from Netflix and is sure as hell not getting 30% from any subscription fee paid to MS for "their" service just because it's on a PS platform. That's just not how it works. Why? Cause the app itself is free. What you are paying for is the service. You don't pay a dime to download Netflix, amazon prime, Hulu, PSnow...etc. what you pay for is the service. And that payment is usually done through the app directly or the apps own external portal, not PSN.
And can't you see the fallacy in what you are saying? Sony already has (and is pushing) their own game streaming + IGL subscription service. Already rolled into one (which is something MS is yet to do). What sense does it make for sony to inadvertently kill off their own service, and support MS service in the biggest way possible by letting its massive userbase have access to the MS service on a PlayStation platform?
Do you know what is really crazy? you are more likely sooner to see MS games on the PlayStation store or in PSnow, than you would see Gamepass/Xcloud on a PlayStation platform. Hell, you are sooner to see some sony published games on gamepass (for PC) than an MS service on PlayStation.
I straight up have no idea with all the conflicting information we've gotten and the seemingly impossible features that have been confirmed (RT, NVME SSDs). My prediction was around 10.5 before the Series X spec leak and the Github leak. Now I feel like it could be anywhere between 9 and 13 depending on if Sony targets $399 or $499. I have a feeling that we won't know until Sony wants us to know.
Fun fact, it can take AGES from filing to grant. I worked on a patent that was still not granted 17 years after filing, because of Opposition proceedings, Appeal etc. etc.
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