AMD CES 2020 Stream
Yes this had been covered, but he could easily be lying. We'll find out soon I guess.Seems that Phil is in Redmond so won't be making an appearance at the AMD keynote.
It's funny seeing everyone that said we shouldn't believe the 9 TF Ps5 rumours quickly believe a tweet about the XSX being 9TF. Wow.
I know where it's from, my scaling key reduced the size of the chip quite a bit, while retaining proportions that fit for the transistors and the ID tag.
will we, tho?
Phil has the fast travel tech welcome to ces, Beam him up lisaSeems Phil is in Redmond so will not be making an appearance at the AMD keynote.
The rate at which we create OTs will just exponentially grow.Less than one week has passed from the creation of this thread, and we're already almost at 8k posts.
Its will be Cerny in the tub.Seems Phil is in Redmond so will not be making an appearance at the AMD keynote.
I mean...why not?
Is it really that interesting?It's interesting that we haven't heard much from Sony at all.
And here we have Phil Spencer showing us his big chip.
Less than 12 minutes left till the AMD CES 2020 conference starts.
Lol, nice. I really diggin' the green light under the grill.
Lisa Su HYPE
AMD also just has the worst presentations in general it doesn't matter what it is. They don't have Jensen Huang to get everyone excited.If people are expecting an E3 like presentation (in terms of fun, or even pacing) for today's AMD CES one lol good luck
CES presentations are boring by nature, the only half fun one I've seen was the Tom Hanks' Sony disaster and the "or... a CEO" Qualcomm one.
I'm pretty sure they will have slides in regards to the work they have done with both Sony and Microsoft.
Man you are on a pipe dream...
14 tflops is never gonna happen.
Not even any chance of that.
The whole Apu is around 380-390mm2
The cpu will be bigger than jaguar one.
The gpu will be around 250-280 max so a 5700xt boosted at best 10-11(max)
AMD also just has the worst presentations in general it doesn't matter what it is. They don't have Jensen Huang to get everyone excited.
I don't expect big product launches or even a lot of details of new architectures. I expect a slide of two that will announce Zen 3 and/or RDNA 2.
Editor's Warning: Die size estimations are always to be taken with a grain of salt. The slightest distortion/error in perspective correction can result in exponentially large differences. Use of certain lenses can also throw these calculations widely off. These are provided only for fun and to give our readers a "guesstimate" of the actual die size.
Here is our methodology (A big shout out to WhyCry @Videocardz for helping us with image processing): the original image was enhanced and then perspective corrected (prioritizing the die and not the package). The cleaner parts of the image were then oriented to scale using an older image of the Xbox Scorpio APU, using two different points as an anchor/scale key. The result is a roughly clean image that we can compare on an apples-to-apples basis to get a good idea of the size difference.
Now assuming Phil did not use a lens with too wonky a perspective (eg: some fisheye lenses), our results show us that the Xbox Scorpio and Xbox Scarlett APUs are roughly the same in width but the Xbox Scarlett APU is slightly longer in height. Our calculations put the Xbox Scarlett APU at roughly 401mm², which is an increase of almost 42mm² over the Xbox Scorpio chip at 359mm². The brand new APU features hardware-based raytracing (which seems to be all the rage these days) and a Zen 2-based CPU core.
Scorpio had 2560 SPs with 2 CUs disabled and while the Xbox Scarlett APU is clearly bigger, it is not possible to speculate based just on the die size because of the different process node involved (7nm vs 16nm) but we can safely say that you are looking at at least 50% more power in the same die space. Since the Scorpio APU can output roughly 6 TFLOPs of power, we can guesstimate a range of at least 9 TFLOPs for the Scarlett APU ( up to 12 TFLOPS is within the realm of possibility).
Interestingly, the chip mentions 8K, as opposed to 4K on Scorpio, which might be an indication of the maximum available resolution on next-generation Xbox consoles. Considering 8K gaming is simply not possible even on a 12 TFLOPs chip (unless you are playing with very rudimentary, low poly models), it is likely that 8K decoding will be supported on the upcoming console. In any case, Xbox will be presenting at AMD's CES Keynote that is going to be happening in a couple of hours so we might find the answer to our question very soon. That is all for this rather short post.