Everyone seems a bit sassy today, it's almost the weekend and we are ravenous for anything next gen related.
Imagine believing Mochizuki
( Maybe PS5 and XBX will be 599 or more but again imagine believing this guy )
Idk... I know you can get a 1TB M.2 NVMe SSD at retail for as low as $114.I think people are being overly optimistic about wholesale SSD costs.
I hope they go back to clickable buttons. My ps4 was plagued by disc ejects until I covered it with adhesive.The ultimate irony is that this whole forum has been constantly whining that the PS4 and Pro sound like jet engines, but now that we have word that PS5 is using a more expensive and elaborate cooling solution most likely to address these complaints and everyone goes, "This confirms Github was true and Sony is building a weaker machine!"
It's almost a daily occurrence now. Hope we get useful info soon.
Lot of his reports were far from being right.
I couldn't find a link to the original article, but on page 911 on the other site, it's being discussed/translated (post post-256873578).
What flash supplier do we assume for Sony and MS? Samsung, Micron, Intel?Idk... I know you can get a 1TB M.2 NVMe SSD at retail for as low as $114.
Back in 2013, a 500GB 2.5" HDD cost around $60. sony/ms ended up paying about half that to get that in their consoles.
I also expect that sony/ms aren't going to be using a consumer of the shelf solution for their SSD, and that it would be embedded on the board, which to e means that it should be even cheaper than otherwise just making a bulk order or SSDs.
The 1TB SSDs at those prices are not the >3GB/s models consoles are rumored to be receiving.Idk... I know you can get a 1TB M.2 NVMe SSD at retail for as low as $114.
Back in 2013, a 500GB 2.5" HDD cost around $60. sony/ms ended up paying about half that to get that in their consoles.
I also expect that sony/ms aren't going to be using a consumer of the shelf solution for their SSD, and that it would be embedded on the board, which to e means that it should be even cheaper than otherwise just making a bulk order or SSDs.
That anonymous reddit post from a while back with no source listed? Yeh...I'm not going to give that much attention.I couldn't find a link to the original article, but on page 911 on the other site, it's being discussed/translated (post post-256873578).
where is this gif originally from? I wanna watch that.
We must be twins as I was looking forward to some DS myself for it's calming affect on me.Nah, some of us are just lurking, watching, judging. Can't wait to spend time with Death Stranding this weekend <3
And to think, MS and Sony were both nervous last gen about consoles dying!
Dictator man please please please give us some info, someting to latch onto something you might've gleaned yourself but also holding onto yourself, please share some today.And to think, MS and Sony were both nervous last gen about consoles dying!
I'm I the only one who doesn't care about TF? I just want the PS5 to have mind blowing exclusive games that look better than PS4 games. I'm easy to please
Search your feelings. You know why.I used the word " in my opinion" because its clearly my opinion and not a general statement. Not sure why you're so triggered over me having an opinion on something. The anger over people having opinions on factual evidence is weird.
That's what is happening when you start to listening the "analysts".And to think, MS and Sony were both nervous last gen about consoles dying!
And to think, MS and Sony were both nervous last gen about consoles dying!
He has misattributed and misconstrued quotes from Sony executives before publishing misleading stories from them.
Oh no, I am on the same boat. I already know what I wanted (SSD + Zen2 + Navi + HW RT + PS4 BC), I let details to console wars.I'm I the only one who doesn't care about TF? I just want the PS5 to have mind blowing exclusive games that look better than PS4 games. I'm easy to please
I was quite critical of Kojima and the marketing plan around Death Stranding, it seemed incoherent and vague. Thus, I didn't pay it much attention in terms of reading previews and what not. I never felt as if I truly grasped what the game was "about."We must be twins as I was looking forward to some DS myself for it's calming affect on me.
Agreed. So weird that people always expect the same....Only because it happend once.I mean I know that but people really want it to cost 399 and still want top of the line hardware. Why not 299 for those 399 peeps? It is just frustrating seeing it should be 399 and seeing it since November 2018.
Wasn't he the first person to say that lockhart was canceled? Or am i remembering wrong?The only real credible leaker.
Fist to leaked the new Xbox next generation codenames. Fist to leaked the Xbox Series x ports. First to leak Elite Controller Series 2. First to leak Xbox One S All Digital Edition.
And all turned out to be 100% accurate and correct.
Sorry to hear. Working in the weekend is always crappy! ;)Nah, some of us are just lurking, watching, judging. Can't wait to spend time with Death Stranding this weekend <3
Microsoft would want to hold on $499 because they would be competitive with a $499 PS5.Your entire post seems very reasonable to me.
The only thing I don't get: Wouldn't MS be forced to bump their price as well? The RAM scarcity should hit them even harder than Sony due to more RAM in XSX.
Assuming MS can hold the $499 they once planned would mean either that MS is OK taking huge losses to meet Sony's price, or that their origonal BOM was only slightly higher than that of the PS5.
In both cases it wouldn't have been plausible for MS to originally target a price $100 more expensive than PS5, would it?
Man I envy you in terms of going in blind, I read some reviews which were pretty damning but knowing his oeuvre and Kojima being Kojima I still bought the game and I was blown away even by the core game mechanic many paints as 'walking simulator' I'm on chapter 6 and 210hrs in, I was 100+ in chapter 3 alone.... I really love the vistas, and trying to figure out the best way to deliver maximum amount of cargo, and then the game surprises you with a revolutionary change and then does the same fucking thing again and your whole formula to calculate that changes twice over. I am also still trying to 5 star peppers and I can still discover a thing I haven't seen or a gameplay mechanic I was unaware of, really it blows my mind. After this game, I decided to avoid graded reviews with extreme prejudice. Reading some emails or preppier interviews is so much better than reading those reviews, as I am constantly thinking of how it actually applies to our current day and age and the society we live in and its exactly leaving my feeling dumbfounded as I wasn't expecting anything like this from the game.I was quite critical of Kojima and the marketing plan around Death Stranding, it seemed incoherent and vague. Thus, I didn't pay it much attention in terms of reading previews and what not. I never felt as if I truly grasped what the game was "about."
I went in blind and now I'm hooked. I'm delivering ALL the packages. I'm building and cooperating and really enjoying myself. And the game is highly impressive on a technical level too; wandering around the world, taking in the vistas. I'm currently on chapter 3 just trying to 5 star all the preppers. The change of pace from the usual shootbangs I've played is wonderful.
I've gotten to savor an embarrassment of riches on PlayStation 4 this generation. Whatever the PS5 is on a technical level, I'm in. I want to experience whatever the next God of War, Horizon, Spiderman, etc. have to offer.
Seriously, DS on the surface is something that makes no sense. Even playing it doesn't make much more sense, but when you actually get into the loop, it strangely fun and addictive to deliver packages.I was quite critical of Kojima and the marketing plan around Death Stranding, it seemed incoherent and vague. Thus, I didn't pay it much attention in terms of reading previews and what not. I never felt as if I truly grasped what the game was "about."
I went in blind and now I'm hooked. I'm delivering ALL the packages. I'm building and cooperating and really enjoying myself. And the game is highly impressive on a technical level too; wandering around the world, taking in the vistas. I'm currently on chapter 3 just trying to 5 star all the preppers. The change of pace from the usual shootbangs I've played is wonderful.
I've gotten to savor an embarrassment of riches on PlayStation 4 this generation. Whatever the PS5 is on a technical level, I'm in. I want to experience whatever the next God of War, Horizon, Spiderman, etc. have to offer.
Haha, it's from an American comedy series called "Community." I think that particular scene is from S3E4.
my guess would be Samsung. I could see sony landing a pretty good deal for RAM and storage from them.What flash supplier do we assume for Sony and MS? Samsung, Micron, Intel?
True, but there isn't anything out there that falls in line with what we are supposedly receiving.The 1TB SSDs at those prices are not the >3GB/s models consoles are rumored to be receiving.
This is unnecessarily toxic I think; Brad covers all things MS and is not beholden to this thread to provide info on next-gen gaming. I get your frustration with the lack of information, but taking it out on folks who generally provide good information is a bad path IMO.If its one of those weak info dumps... then people like him and others that do that can go fuck themselves.
Really tired of all this stupid teasing that usually amounts to be nothing.
ThanksHaha, it's from an American comedy series called "Community." I think that particular scene is from S3E4.
Haahahahahs thanksThe show is Community. Its the 3rd season I think?
EDIT Beaten like a Pastebin rumor
Afaik not.Agreed. So weird that people always expect the same....Only because it happend once.
Wasn't he the first person to say that lockhart was canceled? Or am i remembering wrong?
Sorry to hear. Working in the weekend is always crappy! ;)
haven't played it myself yet....I really need to buy it.
Dude.. chill the fuzz out lolIf its one of those weak info dumps... then people like him and others that do that can go fuck themselves.
Really tired of all this stupid teasing that usually amounts to be nothing.
Bloomberg may not be tech focused, but they are one of the gold standards in the world of business reporting. Though they have been wrong about things before they are definitely a more trustworthy source than something like Business Insider or Forbes.Seems everyone is treating this Bloomberg story as "solid leaks", but they aren't a very reliable source AFAIK. Not too long ago, as far as everyone can tell so far, they completely made up a huge story of Chinese espionage and hacking of SuperMicro (a huge server / workstation motherboard OEM), and in turn Apple and Amazon AWS etc. Total nonsense, pedaled as fact. See: https://appleinsider.com/articles/1...-stands-by-its-big-hack-icloud-spy-chip-story or just google "bloomberg supermicro". Of course, it could all be true also and just some exceptional work in track-covering tradecraft!
Super excited times ahead!
All these reports about Sony, lack of communication, Sony top management starting to get involved etc. is honestly worrying me. Im having a feeling this will be a complete mess (I hope Im so wrong)
So it's $10-70 more. thats as wide of an estimate as 8-14 tflops.SaltySnake is back!
The article states a $450 build cost for PS5. Sony is concerned about thermals, hopefully engineered for quiet operation.
ZhugeEX places XSX build cost to be $460-520. He is taking into context the increased prices, same as Sony has seen. He also seems to imply that we should not expect to see less than we shouldn't expect to see consoles at $399 price tag.
He states that the XSX build cost is just a bit higher than the PS5 build cost. It appears all other costs associated with taking the product to market might make up an additional 5-10%.
Finally, it is suggested that the most MS or Sony might eat would place the retail price at or near the build cost.
It would seem, at least provisionally, we might be looking at a $450 PS5 and a $499 XSX, with both taking ~$50 loss.