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PS5 and Xbox Series speculation |OT11| Cry Havoc and Let Slip the Dogs of War [NEW NEWS, NEW THREAD - CHECK OUT THE STAFF POST]
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DICE is producer / director level bullshit. It's in Vegas for a reason.
aww, c'mon.
we could decide via a series of polls, you should like that.
Well, there is some morbid and fun in being able to take revenge on the authorities without repercussions. Haha
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It gonna come with a remaster of DOA3?
It's the only thing I can mentally associate with that song.
it's in the right ballpark.
PS5: Experience tomorrow sometime in the future.
I'm beginning to think the reveal might not be until late April or even May.
Sony and MS are also maybe waiting on each other so they can go second and react to the others show to one up it.
This could go on for a while lol...
Sony and MS are also maybe waiting on each other so they can go second and react to the others show to one up it.
This could go on for a while lol...
Truth is some Legends say that Mecha is preparing for Animal Crossing: New Horizons.
Microsoft fucked it up hard to announce there will be no possibility to sell, buy and play used games like before. This fact ruined the start of the One. Even at the same price.
Ooooh a shitty car analogy! Not had one of those in a while.
GCN car has a 120 hp engine, but a shitty gearbox and bald tyres.
RDNA car has the same 120 hp engine, a much better gearbox, and racing slicks.
Both cars have the same power in the engine, but differences in the transmission chain to the road mean the RDNA car leaves the GCN car in the dust.
The Series X can accelerate twice as fast as the One X. We know it has an RDNA transmission. The engine doesn't have to put out twice the horsepower to achieve that. But journalists are not good at math, so you can hoodwink them into thinking it does. Phil on the other hand, does not want to be caught in a lie, so he, and his staff NEVER tell you the actual output of the engine. Just that the whole car is twice as fast, which quite frankly, is the only thing that ACTUALLY matters. Unless you're playing top-trumps console war edition.
Thanks. I'll take a look.
Edit..."he's taking a break from the forum"
Well that doesn't say much. Odd. Self bans are always weird to me. Nevertheless... carry on.
Well, yeah, it is shitty.
But i believe, or want to believe, that this easy chart i brought up makes the difference between GCN and RDNA architecture and their relation to the TFLOP metric understandable.
Of course you can mock it, and ask if the one is a used car or if the other car has a turbo injection.
Well, i tried my best.
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This is exactly where we are here. MS said they would ba at E3, but what before ?
And show a box and an "in engine" trailer. If that's enough for you, good.
Gods & Monsters, Watch Dogs Legion, and Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Quarantine are all cross gen titles
+ Godfall
+ BGE2 definitively a NG title
+ The Lord of the Rings: Gollum
So we already at 6 :)
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There's many reasons that people might take a break, and we do them the courtesy of keeping any reasons confidential. That's really all there is to it.
Outriders is also coming out for PS5/Xbox Series X at launch/holidays, so 7.
I suppose the game client will run in PS4/XB1 mode and nothing will change, at least only if the publisher decide to provide next-gen patch for their existing software?
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Probably. Or maybe something like boost mode for better FPS and whatnot.
And talked a bit about specs. We know a decent amount more about Microsoft's plans than Sony's at this point, so Microsoft can afford to wait longer before showing more.
What I'm curious about with RDNA versus GCN, is that with the higher efficiency in pure graphics performance, due to improved cache layout and bandwidth, together with the other feature additions like Wave32, does that mean that asynchronous compute performance is lower for a GPU of a similar TF rating?
Essentially, if the RDNA improvements imply higher shader core utilisation, then surely that means there are less scheduling gaps to fill with asynch-compute tasks, right?
I note that the 5700xt has less ACEs than the PS4.
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Essentially, if the RDNA improvements imply higher shader core utilisation, then surely that means there are less scheduling gaps to fill with asynch-compute tasks, right?
I note that the 5700xt has less ACEs than the PS4.
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They had a system in place to sell / buy used games at participating retailers.
Most folks probably weren't aware/conscious because MS's messaging back then was godawful. It was all over the place.
Thankfully they've come a long way from those dark days.
We don't though we have seen a render of a box, and a vague power estimate otherwise it's the same.
Oh we got an apparently real box with a pube too
So removing choice and affecting smaller business? Still doesn't sound great.
SONY is the leader of this gen, they can afford to wait way longer than its competitor.
And the fact MS didn't talked about Scralett show that they really didn't told us their plan... at all.
It enabled the ability to treat a physical copy like a digital one; would have allowed the "2 copies for 1 price" thing we get with digital.. digital library sharing, etc. (while also being able to sell your copy, albeit not as openly/easily as before)
Overall it had pluses and minuses. For someone who never sells their used games, it was largely pluses.
That's a tough one. I guess it depends on the quality of the pube.
You've got to take the following into consideration.
Length
Curliness
Colour
Thickness /condition
Cleanliness.
Yeah they should have focused on the positives more and honestly talked about the negatives later.
A response to Sony's video for instance.. could have been someone getting an alert that a friend wants to borrow a game on their Xbox, and that person choosing "OK" from across the world.
I do think no matter what the license unlock system would PROBABLY have been fraught with issues, had trouble at retailers.. might even end up buying used games that aren't actually unlocked, etc. They needed to be testing that kind of thing for a long time and I don't think they did.
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<floating point operations per second> = <clockrate> * <number of shaders/SIMD lane> * 2I don't know where the "2" comes from, but apparently that's how it works.
Plus the TF figure never directly appeared in the GitHub leak, it was calculated based on other metrics.
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The formula is for theoretical peak performance, which is what we have been referring to all this time. Teraflops itself is just a unit of measurement.
So given a TF figure under the context of theoretical peak performance, it gives us the representation of the overall size and clock rate of the GPU, irrespective of the architectural efficiency.
However, if the TF figure is from running some benchmark (e.g. Linpack), the figure is indicative of actual performance, not necessarily size and clock rate.
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Yeah I think the whole messaging made it seem like the actual practical implementation had been an afterthought.
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hats all fine if Phil said performance he did not he said 2x the power so the horsepower is the key you're looking at 120hp to 240hp so it is twice the power. No performance efficiencies to account for because they weren't brought up
Thinking that there is a clear and consistent distinction between power and performance in off the cuff PR is a mistake.
The whole point of using a vague multiplier instead of coming out and clearly stating TFs is to be deliberately ambiguous.
Oh come on.
Don't use my car analogy for something like that.
That will not work.
Microsoft haven't "went" ,they announced the name and showed the box. A shit ton of more things we need to know like the below
confirmed specs
Confirmation on new features
Confirmation on UI
Confirmation on lockhart?
Confirmation on new services? How does gamepass tie in
Conformation on games? What are the launch titles they haven't shown one
Including reselling digital games, if I remember correctly.
What a visionary Don was.
Tflops are a measure of GPU power architectural efficiencies should never be taken into account for that as GCN could still outperform RDNA in certain tasks and vice verso so yes the 120 to 240 comment not only holds weight it is far more accurate than looking at tires and transmission.
For multiplat games, when they don't specify, then it's running on PC. Almost always.
Yep. And it was the decision of the publisher if they want a fee or not. Overall, there was no option to sell your games like before which left some really angry gamers.
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