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Doesn't at least part of the OS need to run off the same pool of RAM as the games? That's what I've been told here, anyway.
That they belong in trash bins?
That makes things even more interesting, I wonder what Sony were thinking all the way back in 2015..
But isn't stuff that early just brainstorming stuff? I mean where was Navi and zen2 back in 2015?
They probably had early Broad goals, like ps4 BC, 10x more powerful then ps4 etc but I can't imagine actual silicon design started that early.
Lends more credibility to the ps5 originally having jaguar cores.
The SSD would be one. I highly doubt they will have the exact same designed SSD with the exact same level of speed.
Taking that case as a reference, we will soon see what differences they will have in addition to the TF, to know the difference in performance between them.
Their design methodology may be different, but their costs are very likely dominated by the SSD chips themselves, which I suspect they'll likely end up using the same amount (1TB).
Yes maybe in 2015, but the change to zen must of been rather quick, after reading how SoC design works from Albert penello.
I don't want to speculate on that because there is a lot of information we don't know in that regard. I just think Sony's SSD will be more key to the PS5's performance than MS' SSD for SeX.
Sony spoked mainly of the SSD. There is also the Spidey demo and Jason telling they will communicate about instant access.
MS mainly talked about framerate.
How can the ssd be a big differator? I'm interested how this would look.
If we look at the history of this gen, the PS4 cost less at retail than Xbone and was more powerful.
This was due to Cerny and Sony's R&D, I believe. I doubt they get better discounts than MS. So this just tells us it's not outside the realm of possibilty that price does not equate to power.
In fact, the converse is true when comparing it to this gen. I would also just say that, with the console being pricier (PS5) I do believe Sony is using that manufacture cost effectively. I'm not as familiar with the System Architect at MS. But Cerny is brilliant and I have quite a lot of faith in him (this is by no means a factual statement just a personal one)
This was due to Cerny and Sony's R&D, I believe. I doubt they get better discounts than MS. So this just tells us it's not outside the realm of possibilty that price does not equate to power.
In fact, the converse is true when comparing it to this gen. I would also just say that, with the console being pricier (PS5) I do believe Sony is using that manufacture cost effectively. I'm not as familiar with the System Architect at MS. But Cerny is brilliant and I have quite a lot of faith in him (this is by no means a factual statement just a personal one)
I don't see why the OS needs to take up any significant portion of RAM in both pools for a split RAM scenario.
Maybe they are not just thinking of the BoM, but also the fact that increasing the form factor would also likely increase shipping costs and storage costs. Maybe spending a bit more on a more efficient cooling solution could give benefits in this area and make the console more visually appealing.
Panos Panay runs Microsoft devices. I don't know how much of a hand he had in Xbox but he has had a hand in the surface line, new dual screens like the neo and duo.
I don't know how much input he's had into the consoles but his design philosophy has been all over MS devices from about 2015 on.
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It's that time again. A simple night tonight. Only one sacrifice.
495 your time has come. For the crime of sillily selecting a weekend for this PS5 reveal, I give into you an avatar of equally silly proportions.
Here you are, my friend. Once more unto the breach...
And with that, I'ma go drink.
Google, Amazon and Microsoft can certainly by courting OEMs to push their services.
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Let's say the PS5 reveal in like April. Do I still get the embarrassing avatar because I said it in May?
Let's say the PS5 reveal in like April. Do I still get the embarrassing avatar because I said it in May?
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Yes, getting it wrong means you lose, whether you undershoot it or overshoot it.
The volume of the XsX is not that much bigger though, the XsX won't cost more then a PS4 Pro to ship and store.
Unless they stealth-launch Kinect 3.0 and make it mandatory for each console I think they will be fine.
So now there are rumors on Twitter that the PS5 is 8T. What the hell is going on here? Has Sony really fucked up? No news is really making people stir crazy.
lol I am already pushing it for my bet
if Tuesday is a day of silence then I feel the rest of those day to Feb 20th is just a countdown to my funeral
if Tuesday is a day of silence then I feel the rest of those day to Feb 20th is just a countdown to my funeral
It's that time again. A simple night tonight. Only one sacrifice.
495 your time has come. For the crime of sillily selecting a weekend for this PS5 reveal, I give into you an avatar of equally silly proportions.
Here you are, my friend. Once more unto the breach...
And with that, I'ma go drink.
i have brought much shame to my family.
i will accept my punishment.
I've been explicitly told that it does. I think it was DrKeo who was telling me this ages ago but I may be wrong.
Microsoft and Sony have talked about the same things. 4K, 8K, ray tracing, SSD, load times, better framerates.
Ok. I wasn't sure if the e19 was confirmed.
And when bloomberg has been sued and exposed for fabricating stories as recently as the past year.
France's AMF watchdog fines Bloomberg €5 million over Vinci hoax
France's markets watchdog AMF said on Monday it had fined U.S. news agency Bloomberg News 5 million euros ($5.5 million) for publishing a hoax press release relating to construction group Vinci <SGEF.PA> in November 2016.www.reuters.com
iTWire - Bloomberg reporters stand to earn bonuses if chip story holds up
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Then there's the connection between Bloomberg and MS as a potential buyer.
The reason for that is that the extra pool of RAM isn't actually being used as memory - software isn't being run from it - it's more like a considerably faster swap storage for the OS assets and/or other backgrounded applications. APU processors don't address it directly.
While you can have split memory pools with the OS actually being entirely run from this other pool, that increases complexity a lot and will require the APU to have additional memory interfaces, etc. It's not simple and without cost. And if you're doing that, you might as well go for broke and get a lot of extra RAM, so you can do a lot more than running the OS from it.
lol
Clearly the Bloomberg article isn't going along with their confirmation bias. So they decide it's inaccurate.
Don't get it, a journalist is a journalist regardless on their publication method. If online journalists can be doubted, then surely a paper-one can as well.
This speaks to the integrity of their editorial staff. When confronted with contradicting evidence, not only did they not retract the story, they submitted it for a journalism award. Surprisingly, it didn't win.
Well done.
You can probably find errors on every single major news outlet ever...
Bloomberg are pretty reliable so I'm gonna take their word over random internet speculators for now.
Journalists do make mistakes. But if you think there's no rejecting of that article because it doesn't fit some of the posters confirmation bias then I don't know what to tell you 🤷♀️
Yes, you can. They do the integrity thing and post apologies and retractions, though. To gloss over one of the biggest journalism fuckups of the past decades is something, though.
"Random internet speculators". You're calling online journalists random internet speculators? 🤣
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