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CRIMSON-XIII

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OMG , everytime i see that FFVI fanmade intro. like YES, Give us that with voice acting and make it better than octopath visuals. Go like 1 extra step, and do that for FF4 5 and 6.

Id love that to finally really sink my teeth into those games on modern hardware.

I cannot stop thinking about Final Fantasy.
 

Freeglader

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I also wonder if any big names from SE are helping lead the project. Nomura stepped down as co-director on VII Remake sequels so he can focus on other projects. Makes you wonder.
On the other hand, there's always the chance that Matsuno or Ito could be involved, but I don't know if they'll ever make a game again.
 

CRIMSON-XIII

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I also wonder if any big names from SE are helping lead the project. Nomura stepped down as co-director on VII Remake sequels so he can focus on other projects. Makes you wonder.
On the other hand, there's always the chance that Matsuno or Ito could be involved, but I don't know if they'll ever make a game again.
There is definitely a Kingdom Hearts game for 2022 or 2023 that is on consoles. Not saying it is KH4, but a KH Next that evolves KH3 tech should definitely be coming for reveal soon. With Nomura directing.
 

Tornak

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What if it's a rated M FF title?
We already seem to be getting one (a mainline title) with XVI, so it wouldn't be too crazy!
Not that anyone here should have reason to doubt Navtra, but yeah, it's somewhat Souls-like.

I'll continue not saying anything unless it's already been said. :P
So if I say random stuff and some of it is accurate by mere chance, will you say so? :3

For real though, so damn curious about this, hopefully it is indeed revealed this E3 and they show the concept of the game and not just a cinematic!
 

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It would be absolutely asinine to do that when we have the First Soldier and Ever Crisis being made already. VII does not need this much saturation.
Yeah, the mobile games seem to be the thing that's meant to tide people over in between parts along with Yuffie's dlc. Also as Tornak said, there's the entire existence of the compilation. VII has more than enough content. If this is going to be a game set in an established world, it would be really nice if it was for a world that's never been seriously revisited for once.
 

Cjdamon042

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Souls inspired sounds awesome! I've been wanting an FF game like that for a long time.

What kind of setting do you all think it might have? Primarily medieval like the classic 2D FFs? Fantasy based on reality like VII, VIII, or XV? Sci-fi ish like XIII?

Souls inspired makes me think medieval. Hopefully they'll sprinkle in steampunk/sci-fi elements in typical FF fashion.

I'm thinking FF1. Your typical "medieval" setting, but with Amano's 'otherworldly' designs for the environments, monsters, airships, etc. Definitely some form of sci-fi in later sections as well.
 

Quinton

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So if I say random stuff and some of it is accurate, will you say so? :3

I tried this on the writers for one of the TV shows I watch (The Expanse). Turns out, tweeting ten different guesses within the span of half an hour resulted in little more than a gif of one of the show's characters winking at me noncommitally.
 

Kalentan

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All I need to know is if it's going to let people go wild with builds.

Build-less Souls-likes always feel like a missed opportunity for me. :/
 

Sanox

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Well the question is would Nioh be considered Souls like or rather souls inspired as to me it has some obvious souls inspiration but is still very much its own thing
 

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All I need to know is if it's going to let people go wild with builds.

Build-less Souls-likes always feel like a missed opportunity for me. :/

Yup. Sekiro was such a disappointment for me since it basically said "PLAY IT THIS WAY OR NOT AT ALL", and the way it wanted me to play (all parries, all the time) is the opposite of how I like to approach Soulsborne combat.

Give me builds or give me a different game.
 

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Not that anyone here should have reason to doubt Navtra, but yeah, it's somewhat Souls-like.

I'll continue not saying anything unless it's already been said. :P

Haha, I think this is the last thing I will add regarding it though. The reveal shouldn't be far away anyway.

Like I said before, it's not high-end (think Nier Automata or a bit higher) so temper your expectations, but it's something that many could get really into, at least conceptually.

Yup. Sekiro was such a disappointment for me since it basically said "PLAY IT THIS WAY OR NOT AT ALL", and the way it wanted me to play (all parries, all the time) is the opposite of how I like to approach Soulsborne combat.

Give me builds or give me a different game.

I agree that build freedom is essential to this kind of game, and was disappointed by Sekiro for its restrictive nature in this regard even though it might have the best combat in the supposed sub-genre.
 

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Haha, I think this is the last thing I will add regarding it though. The reveal shouldn't be far away anyway.

Like I said before, it's not high-end (think Nier Automata or a bit higher) so temper your expectations, but it's something that many could get really into, at least conceptually.

cool, thanks for all the info!
 

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Yup. Sekiro was such a disappointment for me since it basically said "PLAY IT THIS WAY OR NOT AT ALL", and the way it wanted me to play (all parries, all the time) is the opposite of how I like to approach Soulsborne combat.

Give me builds or give me a different game.

Sekiro is not Dark Souls nor Bloodborne, it has a different design philosophy. As you said, it's a different game.


The term 'souls-like' is used so often that it's starting to lose its meaning
 

Quinton

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Haha, I think this is the last thing I will add regarding it though. The reveal shouldn't be far away anyway.

Like I said before, it's not high-end (think Nier Automata or a bit higher) so temper your expectations, but it's something that many could get really into, at least conceptually.

<3 And yeah, same. The reveal is right around the corner, and honestly, there'll almost certainly be stuff in there that I, at least, haven't yet seen either! I'm excited.
 

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Haha, I think this is the last thing I will add regarding it though. The reveal shouldn't be far away anyway.

Like I said before, it's not high-end (think Nier Automata or a bit higher) so temper your expectations, but it's something that many could get really into, at least conceptually.

Now we're talking. An Automata type game in terms of production value sounds perfect.
 

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Haha, I think this is the last thing I will add regarding it though. The reveal shouldn't be far away anyway.

Like I said before, it's not high-end (think Nier Automata or a bit higher) so temper your expectations, but it's something that many could get really into, at least conceptually.

okay I'm absolutely interested!
 

Kalentan

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I'm not too familiar with Souls games, but give me jobs and it will have my attention.

So a big issue I had with Fallen Order (despite liking it) and to an extent with Sekiro is the lack of any real choice in your gameplay. Sure there is some here and there but overall your not really making a character build that feels "you".

Whereas a big fun of games like Nioh and Dark Souls is being able to try out a bunch of stuff and do multiple playthroughs trying out new stuff you didn't before.

I want that for this game, regardless if it's super hard or not.
 

pappacone

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if we are really talking about a PS5 esclusive you should not think about games that look like Octopath Travelers
 

Synohan

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I hope it's not full action. I really want another mid-end FF game that's a hybrid, ATB, or even something like XIII-2. We already have XV and XVI for full action, so it would be a nice in-between change alongside VIIR.

I see a lot of people thinking it'll be Soulslike, do we have info hinting towards that?
 

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There is definitely a Kingdom Hearts game for 2022 or 2023 that is on consoles. Not saying it is KH4, but a KH Next that evolves KH3 tech should definitely be coming for reveal soon. With Nomura directing.
Hmm that doesn't leave us with many options. Final Fantasy is too important to SE to not have someone from in-house at least help supervise the development of a third-party FF game (if it is a third-party game, that is). We can rule out YoshiP and Takai as they are preoccupied with XIV and XVI. It sounds like Nomura has his hands tied with KH Next as well as overseeing all the VII Remake games, but who knows, he tends to work on lots of things at once. Hamaguchi is directing the VII Remake sequel. The only other names I could possibly think of are Toriyama, Matsuno, or Ito, or perhaps someone new.
 

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Wait, Automata wasn't high-end? Serious question, because I was actually really impressed by the production values of the game. I know there's not a ton of variety but it felt polished

In any case, that sounds awesome.
 

PlanetSmasher

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Wait, Automata wasn't high-end? Serious question, because I was actually really impressed by the production values of the game. I know there's not a ton of variety but it felt polished

In any case, that sounds awesome.

Platinum's games on a general level are pretty much top-of-the-line AA games rather than low-end AAA, in my opinion.
 

Tora

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Platinum's games on a general level are pretty much top-of-the-line AA games rather than low-end AAA, in my opinion.
That's fair. They really know how to make the most of their budget though, in terms of gameplay.

I was just impressed by how gorgeous the game looked on the Series X, save for pop in issues, so I figured they must have had a decent budget.
 

TRUE ORDER

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What Navtra and Quinton is really interesting!
I do wonder if classic characters will show up or not (I do love what Dissidia did and bring a bunch of them together even though the execution or results are not always the best)
 

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Wait, Automata wasn't high-end? Serious question, because I was actually really impressed by the production values of the game. I know there's not a ton of variety but it felt polished

In any case, that sounds awesome.

Compared to the likes of VII Remake and XV for sure. Just compare the size of the casts, the map sizes, the cutscene direction, etc.

It basically does a lot with a little, like most AA projects. Most Souls-likes are the same.
 

CRIMSON-XIII

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Hmm that doesn't leave us with many options. Final Fantasy is too important to SE to not have someone from in-house at least help supervise the development of a third-party FF game (if it is a third-party game, that is). We can rule out YoshiP and Takai as they are preoccupied with XIV and XVI. It sounds like Nomura has his hands tied with KH Next as well as overseeing all the VII Remake games, but who knows, he tends to work on lots of things at once. Hamaguchi is directing the VII Remake sequel. The only other names I could possibly think of are Toriyama, Matsuno, or Ito, or perhaps someone new.
There have been many thoughts on Verum Rex as well, as a literal spin off story with its own brand name.

We will see. There is definitely a variety of content for sure though and not just XVI and Forspoken and VII2.
 

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A Souls-inspired co-op FF where each player is a different class... Hmm. Probably reading way too much into "conceptually, it's something people can get really into."
 

Freeglader

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God it is a good time to be a Final Fantasy fan! There are so many games to be excited about! It feels like we are in the midst of a FF renaissance, the likes of which we have not seen since the so-called golden age of FF during the PS1 days.
 

Shemhazai

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Wait, Automata wasn't high-end? Serious question, because I was actually really impressed by the production values of the game. I know there's not a ton of variety but it felt polished

In any case, that sounds awesome.
Really? Automata was full of muddy textures, low poly meshes and invisible walls that didn't line up with the environment geography. The shmup segments were literally just a 2d plane despite the background moving at dynamic angles giving it this really weird mismatched look.

It was a great game, but it wasn't a looker in any way.
Agreed. Nioh may have its problems in enemy variety (less in 2), level design, and cohesion, but the core combat mechanics in Nioh are better than any Fromsoft Soulsborne game.

Don't kill me Morrigan pls
Morrigan Kill him please. >:[
 

Mathieran

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FF7R actually already kinda lays the groundwork for a souls like combat. You would have to expand the melee attacks, make dodge more effective, and have it focus on one character. Keep the same atb system from remake. An
 

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<3 And yeah, same. The reveal is right around the corner, and honestly, there'll almost certainly be stuff in there that I, at least, haven't yet seen either! I'm excited.
You mean stuff related to this new Final Fantasy game that you haven't seen either or stuff in the same event where this game is supposed to show up?
 
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