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PS5 Opinion Pieces: Sony’s next-gen reveal was a stroke of genius [Push Square] and feels like a victory lap [GeekWire]
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It was a smart, nimble move when compared to Microsoft´s usually slow, big-spending, grandiloquent, old-school marketing.
Sony has the consumer goodwill, the media slant and the fundamentalist, vocal userbase to keep the snowball rolling and make a lot of noise with little effort.
Sony has the consumer goodwill, the media slant and the fundamentalist, vocal userbase to keep the snowball rolling and make a lot of noise with little effort.
The fact that you'd think this when it is so hilariously false on every level is a testament to how Microsoft have created such a PR hypestorm around BC as being the defining feature of Xbox One when in reality it's a feature that pretty much no one gave a shit about (MS included initially) to the extent that they, Sony and Nintendo were all perfectly fine with just dropping it altogether for their new platforms.
Besides, Cerny just seems to have mentioned it in passing more or less... so I doubt it's gonna be what they try to sell the PS5 on somehow.
This wasn't for casual fans. This was specifically for people who do care about the significance of the technical aspects.
I can't tell if you're being obtuse or what. But I'm bowing out here, not seeing the point in continuing this.
i honestly think it does this gen, specially if you consider the fact that both of these companies want you locked in their ecosystem. its like your gmail account, are you really going to change it if you have everything already on your current email?
The amount of cu's will be locked down already, Navi is expected to launch in 2019 so it will be pretty solid by now.
The amount of cu's was locked down at the same point before this gen.
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Kinda does tho this ensures they wont get lost in the headlines
Thank you lol
Since not having a Samsung phone anymore I don't have access to the excellent Samsung photo editor, so I was stuck with a crappy Adobe one.
Like I said, the notion that a PS5 reveal would get "lost in the headlines" is ridiculous. It's an E3 winner.
Yes, it's a good decision. An interview that kicks off the next generation discussion that isn't just a about vague rumours. It makes the first set of conversations revolve mostly around the Playstation brand. It doesn't give in depth details which keeps discussion going but also doesn't give competitors knowledge either so between now and next year is a whole lot of time to be flexible to changes accordingly. Playstation is a far more popular brand worldwide and It gives those invested in the brand lot of more talk about and people excited for a news for months similar to how PS4 kicked of the discussions. It gives reasons for users to want to stay having confirmed BC and less reasons for wanting to leave which isn't good for competitor with a much weaker brand.
Cerny and his bathtub living la vida loca.
I have no idea why i just said that.
Yes but so would other things be talked about right now just the next gen playstation but I wouldnt count this as a reveal tho more of a preshow
Let's agree to disagree tho
It seems you guys haven't read the post of the year.
These come off as fan boy puff pieces. It's a bold move, for sure, but to call it a "stroke of genuis" to talk about your next console first and in a nonchalant way is, idk, different to put it lightly.
That is certainly one way to think of it. I found it interesting sony released information now, but not much else. I look forward to finding out more about what they have in store for us in the future. I am also interested in what Nintendo and Microsoft have for us.
Stroke of genius is a bit much but it was very smart - they made sure that all their current fans know what was up. You will be able to play all your favorite games on our next system and it will be a powerful system - so whatever the competition shows off, no need to worry...we got you.
This is some, uh, pretty heavy praise for something that isn't even a new thing. And, more than that, isn't even a new thing for Sony? Hell, imo Sony did this better with the PS4 reveal which was, like, an actual thing, because this guarantees that now we have to have the Specs Reveal Interview, the Formal Console Reveal in the fall, then the Big Blowout Reveal Storm presumably E3 2020, and who knows how many minireveals in between. I guess that they're so specs focused this time around is nice? I just... how can you call talking about an unrevealed system's stats months before the actual sort-of-kind-of-real-reveal "a victory lap" by any standards?
I mean, sure, but tell that to the people here who are saying how it was delivered like this to reach mass audiences (people citing stuff like CNN/BBC). It's one way or the other, and the fact that people are so divided on its intent tells me it was a muddled reveal more than a 'genius' one.
What Cerny did wasn't a reveal though, it was just him giving some details before the reveal :P
I think it's genius for another reason. On this site, I've seen numerous people who've stated that they'd love to jump on PSVR—with all the titles already available and those just recently announced—but were worried their investment would be obsolete with the PS5. Cerny confirmed the PSVR1 will work with the PS5, so now people can feel secure in their purchase and dive into PSVR early and have an entire library ready to play on Day 1 of PS5. Probably with better resolution and performance.
Yeah, the biggest news was kinda lost in the shuffle even. PS5 will be PS4 BC from the start is pretty much a killing blow, with how big digital and service games are nowadays.
I think this sums it up pretty well. Judging by some the posts in various topics since yesterday It also seems to have rustled some jimmies.
I posted this a month ago on the topic of Sony not needing to rely on E3 for their news to make a strong impact:
Look who I was responding to.
Shh, this doesn't help.
I'm just laughing my ass off thinking about the old posts saying wtf?? Sony wont be at E3???
Some ppl literally thought Sony were going to be silent the entire year....just because they skipped E3....
And this is just an article.....
And no ones claiming rumors don't matter or count. But to say Sony is matching or copying the competition when all we have is rumors for the competition is ....interesting......
And yes, the Wired article is trickling all over the internet. These 2 articles are just an example. Have to agree with those that say it was a genius move by Sony.
MS can come out and have an absolute monster of a console. But we have to wait till it gets announced, official word, something. As of right now Sony shifted the next gen talks to them. And will guarantee they are in the conversation during and after E3.
All from a lil article....
This too, lmao.
They aren't going to announce those specs this early. Clocks and yields are still be worked on now.
What about the Atari 7800? =p
It was designed with BC in mind, it's literally baked into the hardware. The likely problem is the 180 they had to pull forced them to focus on reversing all their DRM crap and took attention away from other features in the system.
Wtf did I just read?
Why is there concern in the first place? PS5 gonna be dope, why even worry.
I did not say clock, the chip design will be locked down now, adjusting the cu count would require a complete redesign, so cu count is locked.
We'll see, the PS4 had a similar reveal and got upgrades. Cerny is pretty reliable.
I thought it was a pretty good move, there's absolutely no gaming news right now, so it's like the only thing to talk about. Sony have like an entire week to themselves.
They basically got the "mark cerny talking onstage for 10 minutes about hardware" out of the way, It was always the most akward part of the PS4 reveal.
It's good to have that out of the way before the full reveal (less questions and whatnot) and an article is a way better format for it.
They didn't reveal too much either, so that when they do have a big reveal event, it'll still be surprising to see the things general consumers care about.
games, the box itself, the controller, the OS, the price.
They basically got the "mark cerny talking onstage for 10 minutes about hardware" out of the way, It was always the most akward part of the PS4 reveal.
It's good to have that out of the way before the full reveal (less questions and whatnot) and an article is a way better format for it.
They didn't reveal too much either, so that when they do have a big reveal event, it'll still be surprising to see the things general consumers care about.
games, the box itself, the controller, the OS, the price.
PlayStation the top dog. There's no chance it gets forgotten about whether Sony stay silent or not. Only a handful of markets where it even has competition in the traditional console space.
Why the double standard, when Sony release specs it takes "a major spotlight off ms" but when MS release specs, it does not effect Sony?
Please...
It effects them both.
It wasn't anything that special. Sony didn't make any mistakes yet but they were also very vague so there's still a lot of room for error.
Around E3 Sony just has to announce ps4 price cut to 199$ and last of us 2 release date for Q4 2019 and they will have the spotlight again for the rest of the year (with a chance to outsell the switch once more)
I... thought it was pretty underwhealming as a "reveal"
Don't get me wrong, the SSD and BC is fucking amazing but.. where's the 'pizzaz'?
Don't get me wrong, the SSD and BC is fucking amazing but.. where's the 'pizzaz'?
I was just using clocks as an example of a specific detail they aren't going to share now. Also I'm pretty sure they can disable CUs to improve yields. So the design isn't locked down yet.
This wasn't really a real "reveal" in that all we really got was an infodump.
We still havent seen the OS, the box, the games, etc. All that can be shown off in a proper reveal event.
But even then, doing it at E3 isn't really the best idea. Sure, it would dominate the headlines, but imo, it's too important for E3.
They should do what they did with the PS4 and hold a separate "PlayStation Meeting" in a more quiet time of year.
That worked really well last time.
The cu's and how many are going to be disabled would of been figured out in its initial testing phase.
Also your changing clocks example is not related to what I'm saying, as I said CU count which has nothing to do with clocks.