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PS5 Opinion Pieces: Sony’s next-gen reveal was a stroke of genius [Push Square] and feels like a victory lap [GeekWire]
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I just read the "victory lap" part.
You don't even read something that embarrassing on message boards.
Maybe we can wait a year or two after system release to call it a victory lap.
You don't even read something that embarrassing on message boards.
Maybe we can wait a year or two after system release to call it a victory lap.
Oh you mean like these news outlets:
BBC
CNN Business
BGR
Then there's the Sun, the Metro and a whole host of other news publications. I dont need to do your homework for you. Use Google son, enlighten yourself :)
It makes me a little uncomfortable when people revere companies like this.
I mean it was a solid reveal but this just feels weird to me.
I mean it was a solid reveal but this just feels weird to me.
Nothing. People still on the "Sony is bad at communication" train cuz they ditched psx last year and aren't doing e3.
So that's why. I read the last page, saw State of Play popup and thought MS reveal the specs in Inside Xbox so people compare the reveals between them.
Well the link I provided supports and confirms what I speculated. Point is it was planned from the beginning.
State of Play would've been late in the day. The article released early morning, it had an entire day to soak into everyone's minds.
Sony is absolutely to blame for this.
The way the media treat Sony in general in the cloud industry pretty much shows that Sony will have a tough time getting media attention for PSNow. It's very likely that Sony's streaming solution will likely always be more expensive than Stadia, XCloud and whatever Amazon comes up with.
Company announces vague specs well within reasonable tech roadmaps of their suppliers
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Stroke of genius
Victory Lap
The absolute mad lads
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Stroke of genius
Victory Lap
The absolute mad lads
Basically.
Backwards compatibility is the most surprising feature they announced , which to be fair is really improtant.
BC was always a given.
Especially ever since the day they added a 'download-game' feature to PSNow.
It would've been a redundant feature that has a shelf life of only 2-3 years... if PS5 doesn't have BC.
Man, I have seen you miss the point so many times you have almost turned into an Anti Robin Hood. It is not about the quantity of information, but the fact that the hardware checklist items were checked: SSD, Rizen, Navi, Raytracing...Words that will not sound as potent as they would have, had they not been spoken by a competitor s prior...
Did MS say any of these? There's so much different controlled leak stories in the past few months when it comes to MS's next-gen plans. Unless i'm misunderstanding and you're saying that Sony coming out ahead to confirm it is more potent than all the different rumors of Scarlett/Lockhart that MS seeded, but did not outright confirm.
There's definitely been a SSD rumour for their high end system. I think official conformation is a lot more effective than rumours, even if well sourced, though I don't think it's a massive deal either, at most just takes the wind out of MS' sails a little.
Which is what I'm saying, I agree that the things Sony have said will not have the same effect as being the first ones to confirm them, but any new things ms announce will also lessen the impact when sony's says them.
It's a game of one-upmanship.
I'm sorry, but claiming a "victory lap" before we a) know concrete details about the console and b) have learned anything about the competition is the worst form of fanboy drivel.
And I don't have a dog in this fight. I want both consoles to be great, and I will buy both of them regardless of price.
And I don't have a dog in this fight. I want both consoles to be great, and I will buy both of them regardless of price.
I simply meant that Microsoft would have had a better and easier time using those words, officially, on a E3 stage. Sony, sharing the information in a public way and not in a controlled informal way, aka leaks, gets a semantic advantage. It also does preemptively reduce the potential disadvantage that is looming on the horizon with MS possibly uncovering their vision in two months...
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You don't know that, stop talking out of your ass. Sony have done alot to improve costs for running their data centres for their PS3/ps4 clusters, they have shown that they have the technical know-how to reduce running costs.
Psnow is going to improve like it has since it came out, I know it's hard for some people to accept. Media treated Sony like crap last time and they ended up completely dominating this gen.
I'm inclined to sort of agreed
This gen more than any other has a huge amount of people with hundreds if not thousands of dollars invested in an ecosystem.
It essentially locks those near 100 million users/players into that ecosystem
Not necessarily. I would argue that the 'power' of ecosystem lock-in hasn't been demonstrably proven yet.
But it will definitely be proven next gen.
But it will definitely be proven next gen.
It hasn't been proven.
We're in a new territory regards to consoles and their legacy.
It's not so much power of ecosystems, more Power of investment to incentivise lock-in.
I won't say it's genius, only time will tell. We need to wait and see if it's going to pay off. For now they've just given information that are just nice to the ears of gamers : SDD, backward compatibility, Ray Tracing, etc. Nothing controversial. We don't know anything about the price, cross play or their backward compatibility policy. So let's pump the breaks.
However I think it is smart move because it puts more pressure on Microsoft. The shadow of the PS5 will hang out during the E3 even if Sony is not there. And Microsoft, in a way, needs to pretty much check all those boxes of early PS5 specs. It will be interesting to see what Microsoft will come up with in order to put pressure on Sony.
However I think it is smart move because it puts more pressure on Microsoft. The shadow of the PS5 will hang out during the E3 even if Sony is not there. And Microsoft, in a way, needs to pretty much check all those boxes of early PS5 specs. It will be interesting to see what Microsoft will come up with in order to put pressure on Sony.
I think an un-anticipated effect of this mini reveal from Sony is that they inadvertently put all focus back on MS and Xbox Media and gamers are now speculating even more so than before on what xbox will be revealed to be this e3.
Glad to see the strong praise. BC is huge and absolutely essential, hopefully we're passed the days of "fresh start" consoles and can start building futureproofed collections that isn't tied to old hardware.
The issue is that Sony mentioned the things that will be common between both consoles the Mindshare will be "Sony already said that" to people. Sure ms will have things to say, but they would be things that Sony weren't going turn have in most cases and Sony can come back with their unique things to their system and not clash
No, not those outlets. I listed specific outlets I was talking about. Wall Street Journal, Financial Times, etc. These publications DO report on E3. They do not typically report on video games, but for E3 they make an exception. IT's much more impactful
Lol. Dude please stop trying to downplay the fact this reveal got as much press cover as if it was an E3 reveal.
But, like I said, it didn't. Or hasn't yet. I'm sure you've googled it and confirmed that there has been no article on this reveal on either the Wall Street Journal or Financial Times. But if you google Financial Times E3 or Wall Street Journal E3 both will yield results from articles posted about past E3s. And both publications will report on it again this year. FT and WSJ were just the two examples I thought of initially that don't report on video games typically, but always report on E3s. E3 is just that big. Yes, both will eventually report on the PS5, but not as soon as if this had been announced at E3. This is not a controversial statement.
At the end of the day it's a moot point probably since we are more than a year out from its release. There is still plenty of time for these other publications to pick up on it and when Sony does a full reveal with detailed specs, tech demos, etc. more publications will pick up on that. But not yet.
Steam has been proving it for years. I always prefer it because I know my games will still be there when I move hardware. If Nextbox hits comparable specs and price but I have a way bigger PS4 library, it will be easy to go with PS5 at least first. I have a backlog that would be nice to keep with me if I upgrade. Now if price and/or specs are really far apart then its a whole new ballgame.
ERA has always been full of corporate worship and it is super weird.
You still at it. The wall street journal and the Financial times didnt report on PS5 reveal yet. Sony, pack it up yall failed in your endeavour to spread the message.
Not even close. Most people don't read articles on video games. There was no event, no footage. This ain't no E3 announcement are you serious?
Why are you putting words in my mouth? I never said any of that.
These mind of comments I never understand. Same as you have soccer fans worship soccer teams. There is nothing wrong with being a fan of a corporation or organisation and it's also pretty normal to have banter between opposing fan sets.
Can anyone explain to me what's so wrong with being pro Sony or pro Xbox?
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Pretty much. It's great that the news is out and we're getting information flowing, but stroke of genius is definitely a bit of a stretch.
You feel this way because of the 2 publications that you cherry picked? What about the rest that have reported on it? Again like I said, you don't appear to have the receipts to back up your points. Any of those 2 publications also pick and choose what to report on when it comes to gaming. WSJ reported on Xbox news 2 days ago something that wasn't announced at E3.
I searched for "wsj.com e3" and "ft.com e3" on Google and there was simply not much in terms of consistency that you are claiming when it comes to them reporting big news coming out of E3. I'm asking for receipts, are you going to provide them?
Like I said, the Wall Street Journal and Financial Times were just two of the publications I thought of that don't report on video games - but do report on E3s. It wasn't cherry picking at all. I'm in the financial industry so these are the two publications I thought of. And neither happened to report on this reveal (yet). They may still report on it though. I'm sure you will let me know if either does.
Truth be told there's a lot of casual fans who didn't received the memo... Heck the official Playstation Portugal or even Playstation Spain didn't share the Wire news piece!!! There's almost no one but the enthusiast English speaker here that knows about PS5 semi announcement.
Looking forward to E3 and to see what MS come back with. Very vague details from Sony, but a few important aspects confirmed such as backwards compatibility and the GPU/CPU models we were expecting.
