So, is it a given that if the PS5 has the same or similar specs to XSX then it will also be that size? It will have to be to keep it cool?
He got a million other things wrong and got banned for it... on gaf of all places...He's the only leak that 100% completely accurately predicted the XSX specs. CU, TF and clock speed.
GitHub didn't do that. Schrier didn't do that. Klee didn't do that.
I don't think at least entertaining the possibility that he might be legit when it comes to specs is crazy.
If we look at the final XSX specs and who made what predictions then he is actually the most accurate source.
Is it possible he presented himself as an insider and guessed the XSX specs, often against the info we had at the time (RDNA2, 52CUs), and happened to get it absolutely spot on with extremely specific details that weren't rounded numbers (12.1TF/1.82Ghz)? Sure it is possible. But is it likely?
We have lots of people here trying to say it is likely. Yet Tommy was the only person who predicted those numbers. The only one who said 52CU/12.1TF/1.82Ghz/RDNA2.
If I were Tommy and I was guessing those specs I'd be buying some lottery tickets right about now.
yep. i was thinking the same thing. the timing of his other account is suspiciously close to klee saying he needed a break from here.
In truth, MS reveal left the door wide open fr sony to one-up them. That's because not a single next-gen game was shown at all. Sony can come an talk up specs and features as expected then show a couple of next-gen gams and be showing what those specs can really do and that would be enough for them to have a better showing.
I really don't get how MS decided to do this and not show a single next gen game. Hell, they could have had a small playable snippet of Halo or even cyberpunk or something.
Makes this easier for sony.
Klee was still here when TF popped up. They are most def not the same guy. Klee did not think he was legit.
I don't know what to think about the guy, but:He got a million other things wrong and got banned for it... on gaf of all places...
not to mention his "guess" was in the realm of a lot of other educated guesses once we knew 12tf was a hot rumor, as well as GitHub
Or he knew xsx specs and trolled us with ps5 specs? Just like a few other accounts from that other place.He's the only leak that 100% completely accurately predicted the XSX specs. CU, TF and clock speed.
GitHub didn't do that. Schrier didn't do that. Klee didn't do that.
I don't think at least entertaining the possibility that he might be legit when it comes to specs is crazy.
If we look at the final XSX specs and who made what predictions then he is actually the most accurate source.
Is it possible he presented himself as an insider and guessed the XSX specs, often against the info we had at the time (RDNA2, 52CUs), and happened to get it absolutely spot on with extremely specific details that weren't rounded numbers (12.1TF/1.82Ghz)? Sure it is possible. But is it likely?
We have lots of people here trying to say it is likely. Yet Tommy was the only person who predicted those numbers. The only one who said 52CU/12.1TF/1.82Ghz/RDNA2.
If I were Tommy and I was guessing those specs I'd be buying some lottery tickets right about now.
Funny how MS is just giving away information on things sony seems to be safeguarding with their life lol.
Yes? MS is not scared for example.Do you really think its a good idea to announce specs to a gaming console right now?
ive been sick for four days. worrying about my kids who are also sick. worrying about the economy and stocking up on food. effectively quarantined in my house because i just dont know if i have the regular flu or coronavirus, and yet this spec reveal instantly made me feel better this morning.would be pretty dumb to make any announcements right now. especially when people are getting sick, dying, and are generally scared. Do you really think its a good idea to announce specs to a gaming console right now? I personally would wait until all this blows over and the world gets past this pandemic.
would be pretty dumb to make any announcements right now. especially when people are getting sick, dying, and are generally scared. Do you really think its a good idea to announce specs to a gaming console right now?
Keeping silent is not the end of the world when it almost feels like the end of the world out there.would be pretty dumb to make any announcements right now. especially when people are getting sick, dying, and are generally scared. Do you really think its a good idea to announce specs to a gaming console right now? I personally would wait until all this blows over and the world gets past this pandemic.
So, is it a given that if the PS5 has the same or similar specs to XSX then it will also be that size? It will have to be to keep it cool?
yep. if I am giving out details on a flagship product I want those details to own the tech news cycle, not share said news cycle with a pandemic. Even worse be consciously or subconsciously associated with fear, disease, death, illness etc. In the advertising world brands that care about "brand safety" will often ask that their ad copy be disassociated with negative content for this very reason.Keeping silent is not the end of the world when it almost feels like the end of the world out there.
They're not scared, but I also heard almost nothing about the spec announcement other than here and on some subreddits. People need to stop pretending that today's reveal was an earth shattering blow to Sony.
not to mention his "guess" was in the realm of a lot of other educated guesses once we knew 12tf was a hot rumor, as well as GitHub
Or he knew xsx specs and trolled us with ps5 specs? Just like a few other accounts from that other place.
Say his name 3 times in a steamy bathroom with Cerny in the tubIs there a way we can bring Klee back? Idk, summoning a spirit or something like that
Even if PS5 is more pwoerful, it doesn't matter, the XSX is so powerful that the difference will be not major and not noticeable at all.
We won't have any multiplatform disparity like this gen: all same settings, resolution and FPS.
It all comes to the exclusives now.
I have a feeling this is how its going to be for quite some, that is until consoles are nothing more than a data center pumping games into your home.
Well for now yeah but not in the upcoming years. The general course of time will be the same. But this time, it's the first time we are getting high-end.
Still even if next-gen consoles will be surpassed by PCs, don't expect low settings vs max settings like this gen vs PC like pixelated shadows vs crips shadows. All versions of games will stay high end but PC will offer 5K and more if a console game is 4K and 75 FPs and more if a PC game is 60 FPS. Diminishing returns will happen and the gap now is so narrowed down.
Everyone has a preferred platform. There's no shame in that tbh.Me too tbh... We've lost half the community. Do find it a bit weird that members apparently only care about the specs on one console though.
Wut GH didn't predicted anything but it was definitely the SX chip there.He's the only leak that 100% completely accurately predicted the XSX specs. CU, TF and clock speed.
GitHub didn't do that. Schrier didn't do that. Klee didn't do that.
I don't think at least entertaining the possibility that he might be legit when it comes to specs is crazy.
If we look at the final XSX specs and who made what predictions then he is actually the most accurate source.
Is it possible he presented himself as an insider and guessed the XSX specs, often against the info we had at the time (RDNA2, 52CUs), and happened to get it absolutely spot on with extremely specific details that weren't rounded numbers (12.1TF/1.82Ghz)? Sure it is possible. But is it likely?
We have lots of people here trying to say it is likely. Yet Tommy was the only person who predicted those numbers. The only one who said 52CU/12.1TF/1.82Ghz/RDNA2.
If I were Tommy and I was guessing those specs I'd be buying some lottery tickets right about now.
Wut GH didn't predicted anything but it was definitely the SX chip there.
The test was theorical unlike the ones for Oberon so it made sense it only showed the chip details as in 56CUs. There was speculation before whether the 56 cu was the full chip and there would be some disabled or if it was counting only the active ones. If anything it further confirms the GH leak with the bandwidth
No, that's not what was shown. It showed 56 active CU. Best theory is it may have been accurate for dev kit, but the theoretical perf does not match the XSX.Wut GH didn't predicted anything but it was definitely the SX chip there.
The test was theorical unlike the ones for Oberon so it made sense it only showed the chip details as in 56CUs. There was speculation before whether the 56 cu was the full chip and there would be some disabled or if it was counting only the active ones. If anything it further confirms the GH leak with the bandwidth
You didn't. You said instead of "guessing" the exact clock speed he "guessed" the exact CU count (52) and TFs (12.1) and then worked out the exact clock speed.
Which is six of one half a dozen of the other. Guessing both of those spot on, especially to decimal places with the TF, is also equally unlikely.
There are three variables - CU, clock speed and TF. In order to "guess" he would have had to guess two of them correctly and at least one of them to decimal point accuracy in order to work out the third. He also wasn't throwing out lots of specs like us guessing on here and one of them turned out to be right either.
I can't believe we are having the conversation that when an insider predicts specs of a next gen console to DECIMAL POINT accuracy and gets it 100% spot on that the most likely explanation was he guessed and won the lottery.
Actually it was before their 12TF reveal, and after GitHub.
MS just said "twice as powerful as Xbox One X".
So while everyone was arguing about GCN vs RDNA1 flops as to what Phil meant, and while it was certain XSX was 56 active CUs as per GitHub and definitely NOT RDNA2 (don't be ridiculous!) old Tommy predicted it was a 12.1TF machine with a 1.82Ghz GPU and was RDNA2.
What a lucky guy!
He's the only leak that 100% completely accurately predicted the XSX specs. CU, TF and clock speed.
GitHub didn't do that. Schrier didn't do that. Klee didn't do that.
I don't think at least entertaining the possibility that he might be legit when it comes to specs is crazy.
If we look at the final XSX specs and who made what predictions then he is actually the most accurate source.
Is it possible he presented himself as an insider and guessed the XSX specs, often against the info we had at the time (RDNA2, 52CUs), and happened to get it absolutely spot on with extremely specific details that weren't rounded numbers (12.1TF/1.82Ghz)? Sure it is possible. But is it likely?
We have lots of people here trying to say it is likely. Yet Tommy was the only person who predicted those numbers. The only one who said 52CU/12.1TF/1.82Ghz/RDNA2.
If I were Tommy and I was guessing those specs I'd be buying some lottery tickets right about now.
I have to say, he had like 50% chance of guessing that. If you take 12TF for granted (because of the windows central leak), there aren't many ways of achieving that. You basically have two options:And if it was so easy to "guess" that XSX was 52CU/1.82Ghz/12.1TF/RDNA2 how come he is literally the only person to do it?
We all knew the rough ballpark of the XSX specs. He got them absolutely spot on. Not only that but aspects of his prediction were against the train of thought at the time (52CU, RDNA2).
It's possible he presented himself as an insider and guessed SUPER specific specs that nobody else was guessing and got it right. It's not likely though.
His other stuff? Well Klee also predicted a Feb PS5 meeting. I wouldn't hold that against either of them, because if one was planned it almost certainly would have been cancelled due to coronavirus.
DS5? He may have wanted to get banned and tarnish his rep because he didn't want the specs going too far and people finding out who leaked them, or was simply just trolling with it.
Probably the most depressing possibility!
I have to say, he had like 50% chance of guessing that. If you take 12TF for granted (because of the windows central leak), there aren't many ways of achieving that. You basically have two options:
1) 52CU @1.8Ghz.
2) 56CU @1.675Ghz.
What just happened today?would be pretty dumb to make any announcements right now. especially when people are getting sick, dying, and are generally scared. Do you really think its a good idea to announce specs to a gaming console right now? I personally would wait until all this blows over and the world gets past this pandemic.
well, 1820Mhz isn't 1825Mhz, so not exactly the figure to the decimal point, right? Do we have anything else he brought to cross information and see his data is accurate? Did he say 13.5GB available for developers? Or maybe that the memory speed is split between 560GB/s and 336GB/s?That is the point though. He didn't use 12TF or 1.8Ghz.
He used 12.1TF/1.82Ghz (the exact figures).
Like I said, and others have said, earlier in the thread - there is a world of difference between a guess of 12TF/52CU/1.8Ghz (which I agree is likely just being lucky) and a guess of 12.1TF/52CU/1.82Ghz/RDNA2.
And this is what some people don't seem to understand. This wasn't a vague guess with rounded numbers. This was absolutely spot on to decimal places. And with RDNA2. That is a very different kettle of fish and clearly not a "50% chance of guessing". Forgive me if my mathematics is wrong but if it was that obvious and likely a guess tommy wouldn't be the only person on the internet that guessed that exact constellation of specs.
He absolutely could have guessed it. But people are way overplaying the odds of him guessing the exact constellation of figures to decimal places, and also RDNA2.
Anyway we will see. It is certainly interesting that someone claiming to be an insider got it 100% correct when it came to XSX specs.
Series X devkit looks like a Scorpio devkit. It's a tower for marketing reasons.So, is it a given that if the PS5 has the same or similar specs to XSX then it will also be that size? It will have to be to keep it cool?
That is the point though. He didn't use 12TF or 1.8Ghz.
He used 12.1TF/1.82Ghz (the exact figures).
Like I said, and others have said, earlier in the thread - there is a world of difference between a guess of 12TF/52CU/1.8Ghz (which I agree is likely just being lucky) and a guess of 12.1TF/52CU/1.82Ghz/RDNA2.
And this is what some people don't seem to understand. This wasn't a vague guess with rounded numbers. This was absolutely spot on to decimal places. And with RDNA2. That is a very different kettle of fish and clearly not a "50% chance of guessing". Forgive me if my mathematics is wrong but if it was that obvious and likely a guess tommy wouldn't be the only person on the internet that guessed that exact constellation of specs.
He absolutely could have guessed it. But people are way overplaying the odds of him guessing the exact constellation of figures to decimal places, and also RDNA2.
Anyway we will see. It is certainly interesting that someone claiming to be an insider got it 100% correct when it came to XSX specs.
Well yeah but, no ones mad about this news online, seen nothing but positive posts these last couple of hours, same thing that'll happen when the PS5 gets announced.It is not that it will be replicated in many media except technological ones. I agree with the fact that it's a very bad moment to make an announcement of this type and reach a mass audience rather than enthusiasts.
I'd say guessing within 5 kHz is pretty damn good. He said 1.82 GHz on Dec 14.well, 1820Mhz isn't 1825Mhz, so not exactly the figure to the decimal point, right? Do we have anything else he brought to cross information and see his data is accurate? Did he say 13.5GB available for developers? Or maybe that the memory speed is split between 560GB/s and 336GB/s?
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Here he says 1.8Ghz and it doesn't even sound like he is saying that from knowledge:
Next-gen PS5 and next Xbox speculation launch thread |OT7| - nm
I'm sure he was briefed thoroughly on the choices. What does this matter in the context of next-gen? In 2025 you don't think that'll be behind?www.resetera.com
#TeamTommy just entered the arena.
Team Tommy coming through.
well, 1820Mhz isn't 1825Mhz, so not exactly the figure to the decimal point, right? Do we have anything else he brought to cross information and see his data is accurate? Did he say 13.5GB available for developers? Or maybe that the memory speed is split between 560GB/s and 336GB/s?
Well yeah but, no ones mad about this news online, seen nothing but positive posts these last couple of hours, same thing that'll happen when the PS5 gets announced.
We can be worried about COVID-19 and get hyped for the PS5 at the same time lol.
RDNA2 was the only other thing he commented on regarding the XSX specs, but this also turned out to be true.
We shall see I guess.
Don't get me wrong I'm not saying he's definitely right, but if we look at every leak and the final XSX GPU config he is the one that predicted it most accurately. But it isn't my job to defend insiders, we can look back and see when the PS5 is revealed.
Ever ask carthemanbrah?I asked before but never got a response. Was there any solid information on Navi 21 lite? How was it linked to Arden?
He certainly wasn't the only oneAnd if it was so easy to "guess" that XSX was 52CU/1.82Ghz/12.1TF/RDNA2 how come he is literally the only person to do it?
We all knew the rough ballpark of the XSX specs. He got them absolutely spot on. Not only that but aspects of his prediction were against the train of thought at the time (52CU, RDNA2).
It's possible he presented himself as an insider and guessed SUPER specific specs that nobody else was guessing and got it right. It's not likely though.
His other stuff? Well Klee also predicted a Feb PS5 meeting. I wouldn't hold that against either of them, because if one was planned it almost certainly would have been cancelled due to coronavirus.
DS5? He may have wanted to get banned and tarnish his rep because he didn't want the specs going too far and people finding out who leaked them, or was simply just trolling with it.
Probably the most depressing possibility!
I'd say guessing within 5 kHz is pretty damn good. He said 1.82 GHz on Dec 14.
When you already know a console will be 12TF, there are very few setups possible. A lot of numbers have been thrown around by a lot of people in Era and Twitter, some of them hit the jackpot because very few options are available, even if you take two figures after the decimal point. I'll need much more than that to call someone an insider over serendipity.RDNA2 was the only other thing he commented on regarding the XSX specs, but this also turned out to be true.
We shall see I guess.
Don't get me wrong I'm not saying he's definitely right, but if we look at every leak and the final XSX GPU config he is the one that predicted it most accurately. But it isn't my job to defend insiders, we can look back and see when the PS5 is revealed.
You know that a 13.3/12.15 difference is much less than a 1.84/1.53 or 6/4.2 differences right? So no need to be so dramatic about it. All are winners here.
Wait what does revealing the console to the public have to do with the manufacturers? they know the plan set out by Sony on all the schedules on when to mass produce the PS5, if there's a delay then the manufacturer would know about it well before us, Sony revealing the PS5 to us is a win for good news, regardless of when the console comes out.Of course not! And I wouldn't be mad in the least if Sony throws us a few crumbs, lol. But that doesn't mean that it is an optimal time to reveal a console from the point of view of a manufacturer.
It's also less than a 12.1TF and 9.2TF difference.
It's only a 10% difference - the difference between an Xbox One and Xbox One S, games would be identical, everyone would win.
It was never stated to be active. It was always a more theorical test than the data it had for Oberon and the argument whether or not it was the full chip have been made before. And it was not a prediction. It was hard data from the chip. Incomplete for example we didn't knew whether it was a full chip or not but now we know. And it was dead accurate the full chip is 56cu and even the memory configuration was spot on from what I recall.Github showed 56 active CUs, that is not accurate. It was also one of the things everyone was basing their calculations on, 52CU is quite a surprise to anyone who bought into GitHub.
Maybe Arden was the dev kit with all 56CUs active. I'm not saying GitHub isn't real. I'm saying it didn't predict the final XSX GPU specs as accurately as Tommy, which it true.
Anyway, enough arguing about the likelihood of Tommy predicting the XSX specs. More leaks please.