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How hyped are you?

  • A little hyped

    Votes: 98 15.7%
  • A lot of hyped

    Votes: 50 8.0%
  • WALNUUUUUTSSSSS

    Votes: 222 35.5%
  • Hyped enough to eat this whole bag of walnuts

    Votes: 63 10.1%
  • Hyped enough to bite this moose

    Votes: 37 5.9%
  • Hyped enough to scramble a dozen eggs

    Votes: 39 6.2%
  • Hyped enough to be even more hyped, like, cyclical or something

    Votes: 116 18.6%

  • Total voters
    625
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III-V

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Sony's arrogant silence shall be their undoing. They had a good run RIP
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I honestly don't see how anything has changed in terms of what the GitHub leak showed, but the second I saw the Series X specs go up I knew it would dominate discussion in this thread. Can't wait for the thread split at this point, Sony probably won't talk for a while but hopefully they'll put their spec sheet out before the GDC streams since it might leak anyways (reason I think MS did it today). PS5 has a lower BOM but is a full tflop more powerful? I just don't see it, especially since nothing has ever shown it to be Sony's goal. They never go for the power crown, but instead focus on a balance between price and performance first.
 

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Bunzy

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It looks highly modular with simple large blocks; inside a simple case. No real nooks or crannies.

Opening up a PS4 Pro by comparison is a nightmare and I can imagine construction is a lot more complex.


You know that wasn't the real insides? I mean it was in the fact it looks like that but those were magnets that snapped together real easy for a demo purpose
 

Binabik15

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Oct 28, 2017
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I don't give a shit about who is on top in the end, but the feel of reveals versus last gen's spec drops. It's unreal. Oh, PS4 isn't 2.4 Tflops? That's a bummer. Maybe Xbox will...wait, WHAT?!

This time it's fuck yeah, raytracing, SSD, sure, fucking 3.8 GHz CPU, a 12 Tflops GPU at 1.8 Ghz with a shit ton of features, add that to the pile while you're at it. And with the small-ish APU size it might not even be 599 in the end 🤣

If Sony comes around that same ballpark this gen will be so, so good. Great specs for multiplats, please.
 

zombiejames

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Oct 25, 2017
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My brain's starting to hurt from having to explain why you can't plug in the cheapest POS SSD into a next-gen console. Hope DF does an entire video on this so I can just link to it.
 

Son_of_Oden

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There is one thing which I think might become a problem for the XSX along the way: the air exhausts on top of the tower
I can see people forgetting their game cases on top of it which will greatly decrease cooling... :/
 

BitterFig

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Oct 30, 2017
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How can it be 2GB/s, when it takes 10sec for XSX to load state of decay 2? Is loading doing something else than copying data from SSD to RAM?
 

bsigg

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There is one thing which I think might become a problem for the XSX along the way: the air exhausts on top of the tower
I can see people forgetting their game cases on top of it which will greatly decrease cooling... :/

What's a "game case"?

I haven't bought physical since the launch of the PS4 and Xbox One
 

Pheonix

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I honestly don't see how anything has changed in terms of what the GitHub leak showed, but the second I saw the Series X specs go up I knew it would dominate discussion in this thread. Can't wait for the thread split at this point, Sony probably won't talk for a while but hopefully they'll put their spec sheet out before the GDC streams since it might leak anyways (reason I think MS did it today). PS5 has a lower BOM but is a full tflop more powerful? I just don't see it, especially since nothing has ever shown it to be Sony's goal. They never go for the power crown, but instead focus on a balance between price and performance first.
Simply put... the GitHub leak only mentioned 56CU for the XSX and 36CU for the PS5.

Now, this reveal shos that while the XSX has 56CU, 4CU are disabled leaving only 52CU active. If we continue to take the GitHub stuff as gospel, then we should apply that same oversight to the PS5 GPU. Meaning the PS5 GPU is actually a 32CU GPU and not a 36CU one.

At this point, the PS5 could have the exact same APU but just go about clocks differently. Like a CPU with say 3.2Ghz and a 2Ghz GPU.
 

Banamy

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There is one thing which I think might become a problem for the XSX along the way: the air exhausts on top of the tower
I can see people forgetting their game cases on top of it which will greatly decrease cooling... :/
There's actually a little slot on the side that will still push out atleast some heat.
 

PSbigfan

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Sep 30, 2018
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I have crazy theory .
Tommy fisher was right about Xsex specs.
Maybe he is right here too.


And we have this tweet


And after that we have this tweet


Did bluepoint next game is castlevania executive to PS5.

Or I'm just Crazy 😅.
 

Doctor Avatar

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Jan 10, 2019
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All of the consistent rumors/leaks and Sony's complete silence on the subject over the last couple months

the last thing they've said about next gen was the PS5 logo reveal in January

what rumours or leaks have suggested PS5 is weaker?

Outside of GitHub, which is now thoroughly questionable as to how it relates to final hardware, what other "consistent" rumours suggest PS5 is weaker?

We have Reiner, Moriarty and Klee saying PS5 is stronger.

We have Matt and Schrier saying they are both extremely close.

Tommy Fisher accurately predicted the Xbox specs down to CU count and clock speed. Moreso than the leak I responded to. He also said PS5 had the lead. Though he is questionable because he also spread a fake DS5 shot.

So where are these "consistent" rumours that PS5 is "significantly" weaker? I've certainly missed them...
 

chris 1515

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Sure, but many devs are likely to compress further on the disk, since storage space is at a premium. Remember, next-gen games are still going to have to fit on 100 GB BDs. There's no way many developers won't use heavier compression algorithms. They definitely are now.

Here there is a standard format BCPack(Direct Storage) it will help to compress further the texture on disk and because of the realtime hardware decompression, it will help to stream more data on RAM. And it will probably be a standard on Xbox and PC in the future. I suppose we will have new line of Direct Storage SSD on PC.
 

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Simply put... the GitHub leak only mentioned 56CU for the XSX and 36CU for the PS5.

Now, this reveal shos that while the XSX has 56CU, 4CU are disabled leaving only 52CU active. If we continue to take the GitHub stuff as gospel, then we should apply that same oversight to the PS5 GPU. Meaning the PS5 GPU is actually a 32CU GPU and not a 36CU one.

At this point, the PS5 could have the exact same APU but just go about clocks differently. Like a CPU with say 3.2Ghz and a 2Ghz GPU.
The Series X wasn't tested in Github, just mentioned. Also it's a very incomplete data set. I in no way think it's 100% final hardware, but it shows at the time a part of what was being worked on. Today's reveal doesn't change anything as far as GitHub being the only information about ps5 we have. My add-on is that I never thought Sony would go for a power crown, because they don't do that normally.
 
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Official Staff Communication

Alright, people. Listen up. The Series X specs officially got revealed. You can discuss those here:

www.resetera.com

Xbox Series X: A Closer Look at the Technology Powering the Next Generation

Just posted over on Xbox Wire: First, the Specs. Before diving into what's meant by each feature they discuss in the article, check out the Xbox Series X glossary for details on what each feature is defined as: https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2020/03/16/xbox-series-x-glossary/ Xbox...

As for the PS5, we're going to use this thread for that speculation. Valid discussion topics include:

Performance guesses and speculation
Leaked / rumored info
Excitement / hype

What is not allowed:

Trolling. Antagonizing. Hostility.
Doom and gloom complaining about Sony's silence.

Remember everyone. The world has a lot going on right now. Things may have been delayed as far as announcements and reveals go. Let's try to keep this thread positive, informative, and enjoyable.
 

JahIthBer

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How can it be 2GB/s, when it takes 10sec for XSX to load state of decay 2? Is loading doing something else than copying data from SSD to RAM?
It's going to depend on the game, i expect next gen games designed with the nvme in mind will load faster, while last gen games could load slower, i could be very wrong though.
 

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Official Staff Communication

Alright, people. Listen up. The Series X specs officially got revealed. You can discuss those here:

www.resetera.com

Xbox Series X: A Closer Look at the Technology Powering the Next Generation

Just posted over on Xbox Wire: First, the Specs. Before diving into what's meant by each feature they discuss in the article, check out the Xbox Series X glossary for details on what each feature is defined as: https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2020/03/16/xbox-series-x-glossary/ Xbox...

As for the PS5, we're going to use this thread for that speculation. Valid discussion topics include:

Performance guesses and speculation
Leaked / rumored info
Excitement / hype

What is not allowed:

Trolling. Antagonizing. Hostility.
Doom and gloom complaining about Sony's silence.

Remember everyone. The world has a lot going on right now. Things may have been delayed as far as announcements and reveals go. Let's try to keep this thread positive, informative, and enjoyable.
Good stuff, thanks!
 

gundamkyoukai

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Oct 25, 2017
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Well it was a good run but so long PS5\XSX speculation thread .
Welcome to the PS5 thread only and so long to those that leaving .
 

Kristijan1001

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If anyone can add all the parts and their retail price to see what price we will get. 1TB NVMe that is solid is currently like 240$. The EVO 970.
 

DrDeckard

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I don't give a shit about who is on top in the end, but the feel of reveals versus last gen's spec drops. It's unreal. Oh, PS4 isn't 2.4 Tflops? That's a bummer. Maybe Xbox will...wait, WHAT?!

This time it's fuck yeah, raytracing, SSD, sure, fucking 3.8 GHz CPU, a 12 Tflops GPU at 1.8 Ghz with a shit ton of features, add that to the pile while you're at it. And with the small-ish APU size it might not even be 599 in the end 🤣

If Sony comes around that same ballpark this gen will be so, so good. Great specs for multiplats, please.

Totally agree! This is nothing like last gen...If MS is anything to go by, this gen will be magnificent.
 
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