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PS5 Speculation |OT12| - Aw hell, Transistor's running this again?
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Well, this is exactly what i was expecting from this presentation, so i'm not disappointed nor positively surprised.
Honestly, nothing about this console sounds exciting so far, weaker specs than its competiton and not even full Ps4 BC at launch sound like a bummer.
Waiting for games to be shown.
Honestly, nothing about this console sounds exciting so far, weaker specs than its competiton and not even full Ps4 BC at launch sound like a bummer.
Waiting for games to be shown.
it's brave of you to share anything here man! I appreciate your posts and tweets.
Yep. Colbert knew the whole time it seems. And now he's banned. Hopefully he's let back in sooner than later.
Hell, Colberts twitter poems were spot on. He's the insider we all need.
I don't doubt that Cerny is a genius, but I think they may have made some wrong moves here:
- The SSD sounds amazing, but I think something more standard may have been a better play
- Variable freq for CPU and GPU means that 10.3TF is best case scenario
- Overinvested in 3d audio
I think MS did it better. I'm saddened.
- The SSD sounds amazing, but I think something more standard may have been a better play
- Variable freq for CPU and GPU means that 10.3TF is best case scenario
- Overinvested in 3d audio
I think MS did it better. I'm saddened.
he said they will use it only if the cpu isnt running at max speeds. you cant rely on that.
So any idea why they went narrow and fast, given this is contrary to traditional chip design? Did BC force 36 CUs? Or did the relatively larger cost of fabbing on 7nm lead them to build a smaller chip?
there is a bay to add going by what Cerny said. gimme a bit and I'll try and find the exact wording.
EDIT: n/m multiple others have answered already
Is a question of price. Unless the SSD drive tech is crazy expensive, the PS5 should be considerably cheaper than the XSX.
so dropping by 10 percent puts us at 2000mhz...9.2tf...I'm sure he knows the hardware better than me. So i'll leave it at that. People are free to think what they want, but it's Sony that are covering themselves here not me.
I've never seen a GPU near 2.25GHz.
games that load in 4 seconds on XSX will load in 2 seconds on PS5, assume there's no other overheads.
I am excited for the hardware as it is indeed very good (if it ends up being 399) but boy, this was a stupid way for them to reveal.
the thing is... MS is doing all the 3D audio stuff too. It comes absolutely for free because of their RT accelerator and audio block.
They just weren't jumping up and down going look at this! LOOK AT IT!
Matt is the real winner in all of this.
The most common assumptions made about the GitHub leaks (teraflops and frequency) really didn't tell the whole story of the final performance.
Everybody wins, the GitHub folks and the folks who wanted higher performance.
The most common assumptions made about the GitHub leaks (teraflops and frequency) really didn't tell the whole story of the final performance.
Everybody wins, the GitHub folks and the folks who wanted higher performance.
Dissapointed that they went narrow and fast Im afraid this will be another jet engine.
He went over raytracing fast, I suspect MS is alot stronger there too?
Went from pre-order to w8 or maybe just w8 for Pro version.
There bc problems don't fill me with confidence about the future of there console designs either.
He went over raytracing fast, I suspect MS is alot stronger there too?
Went from pre-order to w8 or maybe just w8 for Pro version.
There bc problems don't fill me with confidence about the future of there console designs either.
Austin Evans also said it ran all day and stayed quiet and cool
Why did they wait this long just to tell us this? If you have an inferior product you want to get it out of the way first, preferably with some tech demos to soften the blow. They let MS go first, wow everyone and two days later they think this is a good strategy? I'm beyond pissed, so much for insiders from now on. We will hear from none, as usual.
Let's be honest, these threads don't look good in retrospective, in many many ways...
If you think it'll be loud you skipped a whole section of the video.
so will 3rd party be able to really take advantage of the ps5 ssd(other then just lo since there games will be on
DF said that the unit that was running the entire time they were at Redmond was really quite
What are your thoughts on how narrow and faster vs broad and slower will translate into performance? Is there situations where a higher clocked 36 CU GPU will outperform a 52 CU lower clocked one, especially when the disparity is in the order of 400+ Mhz? Or will that never be the case.
It just seems in this situation, the 10.3 TF vs 12.1 TF numbers aren't quite as clear cut of an indicator of performance as they have been in the past.
OK, thanks. I suppose another factor could be retaining similarity to whatever RDNA1 predecessor chip they might have been working with - i.e., Ariel.
It crazy how he build the system around higher clocks .
Yeah i PS5 will do certain thing better but still crazy .
A lot of you should probably take accountability for who's word you decide to take and your reaction to things like this instead of having pathetic meltdowns like this.
When it comes to speculation, question everything.
But doesn't that also mean RT is going to be rather gimped, relative to XSX?
RT seems like it will be a big thing next-gen, but that tech is dependent on CUs.
Already posted in the other live thread, but my view. As a Playstation fan, the specs read a little disappointing. Effectively it's weaker than the XSX in all areas except SSD speeds. I would have been happy with the rumoured 11.2 / 11.6 TF from a week back, but it's not just the GPU TF count. RAM speeds are slower, SSD storage is strangely smaller and CPU clocks too, RT was sort of glossed over and we don't know a great deal on BC.
Effectively the XSX will likely have the better gaming experience in terms of framerate and resolution etc. With the difference in power, there is most certainly going to be differences in multiplat titles which makes me feel like i need to look at investing in an XSX then.
Effectively the XSX will likely have the better gaming experience in terms of framerate and resolution etc. With the difference in power, there is most certainly going to be differences in multiplat titles which makes me feel like i need to look at investing in an XSX then.
Now I just need the price, but I'm leaning towards getting this at launch or within a year of launch.
Really hope we get to see some of the games soon too!
Really hope we get to see some of the games soon too!
Jason said in Splitscreen a few months ago that the 10.7TF comment was a guess, not from knowledge, but I was too lazy to dig that up. And hey, he was right, PS5 wipes the floor with Stadia.
This was my guess months ago when people said "2Ghz doesn't make any sense" and it's still what I think right now. Sony had already designed a 36 CU chip, probably because of BC limitations and a 399$ goal, but at some point Sony found out MS is going for 12TF. No one is redesigning their APU in early 2019 when the console is aiming to launch at the end of 2020, so all they could do was stepping in order to raise the clocks. And we even saw the process with Gonzalo (Ariel A0?) @1.8Ghz, Flute + Github (Oberon B0) with 2Ghz and now the final PS5 with 2.23Ghz. That's probably at least one stepping out of the extra 3 stepping Sony had from Oberon B0 to E0.
Don't be foolish, RDNA 2 flop does not equal to GCN flop, Cerny said it himself.
ok see you in 2023 end of year ! Waiting for PS5 Pro, i'll still keeping my PS4 for a moment i think...
I remember Jack literally threatening to ban folks for even talking about github about 5 or 6 OTs ago.
So, Unified pool vs separate. 360 vs PS3 again, with with roles reversed!? :O
This is one of the rare moments on Era, thank you for that. I expect you are one of the only ones that will stand corrected in hindsight.
Well folks, it's been a hell of a ride. Thanks to all of you for participating in this living nightmare, and a big thanks to Mecha Meister for keeping the show running. Let's take the conversation over to the PS5 spec threads. I'll be putting new info and announce the contest winners in those threads.
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