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PS5 SSD cartridges aren't real, carts are for Sony Toio kids toys
- Thread starter Deeke
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I didn't read up on this much but was the scare that they were gonna be exorbitantly expensive proprietary memory cards for the Ps5 like the Vita had?
The idea isn't ridiculous though but damn the overreaction it caused is true.
That's a shame because I don't think usb3 will cut it for external ssd speeds.
A proprietary solution like this is probably the only way to get the same speeds as the internal ssd.
A proprietary solution like this is probably the only way to get the same speeds as the internal ssd.
Interestingly, Sony does not sell or have patent related to Toio in Brazil. But those cartridges for some reason were registered/patented in the Brazilian patent organ.
We know PS5 has proprietary storage regardless.
At least, you won't be running games directly off a non-Sony drive based on what Cerny has said so far about the PS5's SSD being unique and custom built - and games being built around that.
Of course you could still store games on a standard drive and copy them over, but that was never in question.
The question now is if not cartridges, how might we be able to expand the SSD storage of PS5.
I wish all these amateur patent hunters would use that energy to find me a store that sells Vita's for under 300 bucks.
Well well well..
So, that blindsided the lot of us..
I jist would like a 2TB SSD please, would pay alot more for premium.
So, that blindsided the lot of us..
I jist would like a 2TB SSD please, would pay alot more for premium.
that or Cerny was being braggadocious and it's just a SSD over PCIE 4.0 with the PCIE4.0 board having custom hardware/firmware to handle starting games as soon as a certain portion of the data is installed. Think fast decompression on the PCIE4.0 bus itself(which would align with uncompressed assets being slower. Taking the time to compress would take advantage of hardware decompresssion while uncompressed would soak up bandwidth).
I mean this guy called the PS4 a supercharged PC even though PC was beating PS4 easily with a 750ti.
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Everysite who published bullshit should catch a ban lol.
If I knew it was bullshit (and I told everyone it was for toio) they have no excuse.
Pure click farming cunts.
If I knew it was bullshit (and I told everyone it was for toio) they have no excuse.
Pure click farming cunts.
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Im wondering if the actual hardware is unique, or if the solution itself (hardware+software) is unique. Dying to know what's inside, especially after moving to an SSD on my PC recently.
The flash chips on the storage itself almost certainly WON'T be, but the controller attached might be a little more custom than just a rebadged PCI-E 4.0 NVME SSD. Either way, I'm not expecting the storage to be directly user-serviceable this time around. I think the best we can hope for is having an attached SATA 3.0 HDD/SSD where backups of games will live, and then the console will pull files over intelligently to let us start playing ASAP while it copies the rest of the files over in the background (much like how game downloads are supposed to work now). For games not installed directly to the SSD of course.
They could easily just include an M.2 slot. Based on how they handled PS3 and PS4 storage, there's no reason why they won't continue with some kind of standardized expandable storage solution.
As expected
Not really, the first page of that thread had a bunch of people saying it could be for Toio.
Not really, the first page of that thread had a bunch of people saying it could be for Toio.
But consumer ssd's are probably not as fast as sony's nand chips soldered directly on the motherboard and all the other tweaks and optimisations Sony has dony.
Cerny said PS5 ssd is better then anything on the PC market.
He said better than what was available at the time of his making that statement. Critically, that was months prior to the release of PCI gen 4 SSDs. Only time will tell if commercial SSDs available in 2020 will match the PS5's spec.
I could see the PS5 rejecting slow storage if you tried to install it.
I hope when the console rejects slow ssd's it will spit them back out and make a puking noise.
Like most gaming rumors I unfortunately was late to the party on that thread, read the article and then the subsequent pages. lol
Finally. The whole idea that manyc ame up with really irrelevant. There was a patent for a controller like a wheel and even some sites speculated it was for PS5 PSVR2 yet it was for Toio too.
LOL, but everyone said they were going to be proprietary SSD carts that Sony was going to charge an arm and a leg for and that it was another sign that Jim Ryan had lost the plot with the company!?
This memory card patent was filed in Brazil. The Taio product is not and will not launch in Brazil.
The OP's conclusion is incorrect, as it's merely based on the coincidental fact that Taio cartridges also have a 12 pin connection interface. That doesn't really prove anything, as so do some SD memory cards.
The OP's conclusion is incorrect, as it's merely based on the coincidental fact that Taio cartridges also have a 12 pin connection interface. That doesn't really prove anything, as so do some SD memory cards.
The stars just simply aligned for people to believe into this.
Sony touting how SSDs will change next-gen games.
Sony saying that their SSDs are some proprietary tech that is better than anything else on the market.
Sonys history with proprietary storage tech.
Hype around the Spiderman SSD demo making people think that next-gen games will require SSDs.
PS5 being only a year away from release.
So yeah can you really blame people for thinking that this would be the next Sony storage solution?
RIP UMD, RIP proprietary PS Vita memory card, RIP glorious prohibitively priced cart-based future.
this matches the design of the patent, it was for Toio.
If I recall correctly sometimes companies register patents outside of their country of origins to prevent leaks (lol) of company secrets.