PS5 Teardown: An inside look at our most transformative console yet

anexanhume · Oct 10, 2020

Mitchman1411 said:
Do you have a source for this? USB-C does not automatically imply a DP signal.

https://pci-ids.ucw.cz/v2.2/pci.ids

13ed Ariel USB 3.1 Type C: Gen2 x 1port + DP Alt Mode

Code:

    13e0  Ariel Root Complex
    13e1  Ariel IOMMU
    13e2  Ariel PCIe Dummy Host Bridge
    13e3  Ariel PCIe GPP Bridge
    13e4  Ariel PCIe Dummy Host Bridge
    13e5  Ariel Internal PCIe GPP Bridge 0 to Bus A
    13e6  Ariel Internal PCIe GPP Bridge 0 to Bus B
    13e7  Ariel SMBus Controller
    13e8  Ariel LPC Bridge
    13e9  Ariel Internal GPU
    13ea  Ariel HD Audio Controller
    13eb  Ariel HD Audio Coprocessor
    13ec  Ariel Cryptographic Coprocessor
    13ed  Ariel USB 3.1 Type C: Gen2 x 1port + DP Alt Mode
    13ee  Ariel USB 3.1 Type A: Gen2 x 2 ports
    13ef  Ariel ZCN/MP4
    13f0  Ariel Device 24: Function 0
    13f1  Ariel Device 24: Function 1
    13f2  Ariel Device 24: Function 2
    13f3  Ariel Device 24: Function 3
    13f4  Ariel Device 24: Function 4
    13f5  Ariel Device 24: Function 5
    13f6  Ariel Device 24: Function 6
    13f7  Ariel Device 24: Function 7

Dirtyshubb · Oct 10, 2020

Iwao said:
It's a real problem, and for as fair as Greg can be (and he was good at balancing some of the arguments being made in this podcast), he really doesn't do any favours by leaving some of these things unchecked. I was waiting for him to confront Gary about how PS3 and PS4 also had expandable storage and required a screwdriver and weren't a problem or why it's not a problem that Xbox requires you to charge and swap out the AA batteries of its controllers more often than you'll be changing the stand on the PS5 — but those logical rebuttals never happen live, and they should.

From what I have seen recently, it does seem that Greg has been getting caught up in the concerns that Gary and others have brought up where as he would usually be a bit more level headed.

Even Tim seems to be doing the same, him talking about the 3D audio and being extremely dismissive about them bringing it to TV speakers and saying they were just spouting bullshit was pretty surprising.

2Blackcats · Oct 10, 2020

Crayon said:
That actually sounds like a good move, now that you mention it.

Edge glossy physical + digital subscription, $125. https://www.magazinesdirect.com/mobile/az-magazines/6936449/edge-magazine-subscription.thtml?j=EDG

Let's do it!

Just done. I left the digital out because I'd only have all the good bits read before it arrived.

Was 90 euro for me for 13 issues.

Crayon · Oct 10, 2020

2Blackcats said:
Just done. I left the digital out because I'd only have all the good bits read before it arrived.

Was 90 euro for me for 13 issues.

Just did it, myself.

Arex · Oct 10, 2020

anexanhume said:

https://pci-ids.ucw.cz/v2.2/pci.ids

13ed Ariel USB 3.1 Type C: Gen2 x 1port + DP Alt Mode

Code:

    13e0  Ariel Root Complex
    13e1  Ariel IOMMU
    13e2  Ariel PCIe Dummy Host Bridge
    13e3  Ariel PCIe GPP Bridge
    13e4  Ariel PCIe Dummy Host Bridge
    13e5  Ariel Internal PCIe GPP Bridge 0 to Bus A
    13e6  Ariel Internal PCIe GPP Bridge 0 to Bus B
    13e7  Ariel SMBus Controller
    13e8  Ariel LPC Bridge
    13e9  Ariel Internal GPU
    13ea  Ariel HD Audio Controller
    13eb  Ariel HD Audio Coprocessor
    13ec  Ariel Cryptographic Coprocessor
    13ed  Ariel USB 3.1 Type C: Gen2 x 1port + DP Alt Mode
    13ee  Ariel USB 3.1 Type A: Gen2 x 2 ports
    13ef  Ariel ZCN/MP4
    13f0  Ariel Device 24: Function 0
    13f1  Ariel Device 24: Function 1
    13f2  Ariel Device 24: Function 2
    13f3  Ariel Device 24: Function 3
    13f4  Ariel Device 24: Function 4
    13f5  Ariel Device 24: Function 5
    13f6  Ariel Device 24: Function 6
    13f7  Ariel Device 24: Function 7

Click to shrink...

Those codes don't mean anything in regards to the PS5 though? As the other guy said, not all USB-C is DP Alt Mode enabled. And the USB-C on the PS5 also lacks the DP logo.

Afrikan · Oct 10, 2020

Tusken77 said:
This guy takes a 3D printed PS5 around IKEA. lol

I appreciate what he did here. I do wish he didn't include the stand... then when he was placing it horizontally, we could take it into consideration. Because it seems like it can fit in a few spots without the stand. Even tight spots.

Afrikan · Oct 10, 2020

MrFox said:
You don't need a screwdriver for the stand.

First, if you screw it with your thumb... you only need your thumb to unscrew it, isn't this logical?

Second, if you want it tight for some unknown reason, the slot trench is wide and rounded to use a penny or a quarter, or your keys, whatever. It's a common style of toolless consumer accessible bolt.

We need to appreciate the fact that after claiming it will overheat, or be loud, or throttle, etc... the gigantic heatsink and liquid metal is discrediting months and months of FUD. And they're left with talking against the base needing a screw. That's where we're at.

Am I the only one who thinks the box will come with a flat head small screwdriver instrument?

Deleted member 52190 · Oct 10, 2020

Afrikan said:
Am I the only one who thinks the box will come with a flat head small screwdriver instrument?

nop, im think as well.

MrFox · Oct 10, 2020

Afrikan said:
Am I the only one who thinks the box will come with a flat head small screwdriver instrument?

They should put an arcade coin with the PS logo embossed.

Deleted member 13077 · Oct 10, 2020

Dirtyshubb said:
From what I have seen recently, it does seem that Greg has been getting caught up in the concerns that Gary and others have brought up where as he would usually be a bit more level headed.

Even Tim seems to be doing the same, him talking about the 3D audio and being extremely dismissive about them bringing it to TV speakers and saying they were just spouting bullshit was pretty surprising.

Yeah, and the whole exchange around games being cross gen was weird too.

"Xbox says this"

"That's cool, really transparent"

"Sony has said this"

"Yeah, but I don't believe them until I SEE it!"

Fucking bizzare. The whole thing about thinking your PS4 saves might not work on backwards compatible games was just crazy too.

Iwao · Oct 10, 2020

Dirtyshubb said:
From what I have seen recently, it does seem that Greg has been getting caught up in the concerns that Gary and others have brought up where as he would usually be a bit more level headed.

Even Tim seems to be doing the same, him talking about the 3D audio and being extremely dismissive about them bringing it to TV speakers and saying they were just spouting bullshit was pretty surprising.

The ones that's job it is to cover gaming seem to end up knowing less than enthusiast/hobbyist like us and thus spreading FUD. It's embarrassing to see. When the dust has settled it in give or take 6 months it will be interesting to see who has learned from all of this, and who continues to behave the same way.

2Blackcats · Oct 10, 2020

Crayon said:
Just did it, myself.

Nice

McFly · Oct 10, 2020

Arex said:
Those codes don't mean anything in regards to the PS5 though? As the other guy said, not all USB-C is DP Alt Mode enabled. And the USB-C on the PS5 also lacks the DP logo.

Ariel is one of PS5 codenames from earlier leaks.

Dirtyshubb · Oct 10, 2020

Feorax said:
Yeah, and the whole exchange around games being cross gen was weird too.

"Xbox says this"

"That's cool, really transparent"

"Sony has said this"

"Yeah, but I don't believe them until I SEE it!"

Fucking bizzare. The whole thing about thinking your PS4 saves might not work on backwards compatible games was just crazy too.

People have been doing that shit for a while now.

It seems that their train of thought has gone like this:

Xbox announce first
"Super transparent of them"

Waiting for Sony to respond
"Why haven't they announced it too? They must be hiding something or its not as good as Xbox"

Sony announces sale exact thing
"FINALLY! But I will wait until I see evidence to believe them"

Iwao said:
The ones that's job it is to cover gaming seem to end up knowing less and thus spreading FUD. It's embarrassing to see. When the dust has settled it in give or take 6 months it will be interesting to see who has learned from all of this.

Honestly, it's this very reason that I hardly watch games media as much as I used to because I always know more than them and when they start making shitty opinions based on ignorance or misunderstandings it just really puts me off.

None of them will learn though, they never do.

Arex · Oct 10, 2020

McFly said:
Ariel is one of PS5 codenames from earlier leaks.

I see! It is missing the DP logo on the USB-C port though so things might have changed in the final product. We'll find out I guess lol

Deleted member 1003 · Oct 10, 2020

Iwao said:
The ones that's job it is to cover gaming seem to end up knowing less than enthusiast/hobbyist like us and thus spreading FUD. It's embarrassing to see. When the dust has settled it in give or take 6 months it will be interesting to see who has learned from all of this, and who continues to behave the same way.

Maybe expecting folks to know how to use a screwdriver is too much to ask. Especially for tech enthusiasts.

Bold One · Oct 10, 2020

Iwao said:
The ones that's job it is to cover gaming seem to end up knowing less than enthusiast/hobbyist like us and thus spreading FUD. It's embarrassing to see. When the dust has settled it in give or take 6 months it will be interesting to see who has learned from all of this, and who continues to behave the same way.

Guys like Greg and the others like IGN *insert infamous gif here* are only really good at talking about surface-level shit.

There are people in this very thread with better knowledge and understanding of PS5 and XBOXSX.

Listening to people like Andrea Renee and Destin legarie talk utter uneducated shit has me like

Mitchman1411 · Oct 10, 2020

anexanhume said:

https://pci-ids.ucw.cz/v2.2/pci.ids

13ed Ariel USB 3.1 Type C: Gen2 x 1port + DP Alt Mode

Code:

    13e0  Ariel Root Complex
    13e1  Ariel IOMMU
    13e2  Ariel PCIe Dummy Host Bridge
    13e3  Ariel PCIe GPP Bridge
    13e4  Ariel PCIe Dummy Host Bridge
    13e5  Ariel Internal PCIe GPP Bridge 0 to Bus A
    13e6  Ariel Internal PCIe GPP Bridge 0 to Bus B
    13e7  Ariel SMBus Controller
    13e8  Ariel LPC Bridge
    13e9  Ariel Internal GPU
    13ea  Ariel HD Audio Controller
    13eb  Ariel HD Audio Coprocessor
    13ec  Ariel Cryptographic Coprocessor
    13ed  Ariel USB 3.1 Type C: Gen2 x 1port + DP Alt Mode
    13ee  Ariel USB 3.1 Type A: Gen2 x 2 ports
    13ef  Ariel ZCN/MP4
    13f0  Ariel Device 24: Function 0
    13f1  Ariel Device 24: Function 1
    13f2  Ariel Device 24: Function 2
    13f3  Ariel Device 24: Function 3
    13f4  Ariel Device 24: Function 4
    13f5  Ariel Device 24: Function 5
    13f6  Ariel Device 24: Function 6
    13f7  Ariel Device 24: Function 7

Click to shrink...

Where's the 4th USB port?

Fuzzy · Oct 10, 2020

FlikBlueLightning said:
Maybe expecting folks to know how to use a screwdriver is too much to ask. Especially for tech enthusiasts.

"I keep turning it to the left but it won't tighten!"

MrFox · Oct 10, 2020

Mitchman1411 said:
Where's the 4th USB port?

probably going through the south bridge, since the 4th is just usb 2.0.

Deleted member 13077 · Oct 10, 2020

FlikBlueLightning said:
Maybe expecting folks to know how to use a screwdriver is too much to ask. Especially for tech enthusiasts.

"BuT Y WoNt ThEy LeT uS Do ThE TeRrdUwn?!"

Mung · Oct 10, 2020

Dirtyshubb said:
People have been doing that shit for a while now.

It seems that their train of thought has gone like this:

Xbox announce first
"Super transparent of them"

Waiting for Sony to respond
"Why haven't they announced it too? They must be hiding something or its not as good as Xbox"

Sony announces sale exact thing
"FINALLY! But I will wait until I see evidence to believe them"

Honestly, it's this very reason that I hardly watch games media as much as I used to because I always know more than them and when they start making shitty opinions based on ignorance or misunderstandings it just really puts me off.

None of them will learn though, they never do.

The same nonsense happens every new gen. Its become meaningless. They attempt to shoehorn a narrative.

McFly · Oct 10, 2020

Arex said:
I see! It is missing the DP logo on the USB-C port though so things might have changed in the final product. We'll find out I guess lol

It just makes sense for them to use a single cable solution like USB C for future PSVR 2. Even if they also introduce a wireless adaptor that connects via USB C as well.

Speaking of branding, DP branding reminds me of the discussion in June when some people kept insisting that the USB C port did not have a specific USB trident branding so it won't support super speed 10Gbps and that the USB A port only had the lightning branding so it will only be for charging and won't carry data.

CrispyGamer · Oct 10, 2020

Dirtyshubb said:
People have been doing that shit for a while now.

It seems that their train of thought has gone like this:

Xbox announce first
"Super transparent of them"

Waiting for Sony to respond
"Why haven't they announced it too? They must be hiding something or its not as good as Xbox"

Sony announces sale exact thing
"FINALLY! But I will wait until I see evidence to believe them"

Honestly, it's this very reason that I hardly watch games media as much as I used to because I always know more than them and when they start making shitty opinions based on ignorance or misunderstandings it just really puts me off.

None of them will learn though, they never do.

Lol gamespot's latest video would make your blood boil

Dirtyshubb · Oct 10, 2020

CrispyGamer said:
Lol gamespot's latest video would make your blood boil

I watched the first minute or so earlier and had to switch off 😂

CrispyGamer · Oct 10, 2020

Dirtyshubb said:
I watched the first minute or so earlier and had to switch off 😂

LMAO 😂😂

Eeyore · Oct 10, 2020

CrispyGamer said:
Lol gamespot's latest video would make your blood boil

With what's happened there I wouldn't hold too much against them. A lot of them have lost their jobs :(.

Bold One · Oct 10, 2020

Eeyore said:
With what's happened there I wouldn't hold too much against them. A lot of them have lost their jobs :(.

They have?

CrispyGamer · Oct 10, 2020

Eeyore said:
With what's happened there I wouldn't hold too much against them. A lot of them have lost their jobs :(.

Yeah that sucks good point

Eeyore · Oct 10, 2020

Bold One said:
They have?

Yeah, CBS sold them to a different company and a bunch of them have been laid off.

ViaCom/ CBS Layoffs happening now and in the coming days

It seems ViacomCBS has started layoffs today and continuing over the next few days since the sale to RedVentures. I have seen things popping up on Twitter. Seems to be primarily affecting CNET as of now, but I'd assume any companies under the umbrella can be impacted. (Gamespot, CNET, etc)

www.resetera.com

Dirtyshubb · Oct 10, 2020

CrispyGamer said:
LMAO 😂😂

Edit* just saw the posts about their jobs, sorry to hear that for them.

Just looking at the scepticism in her face as she talks about Sony's pre release strategy is enough to put me off.

As someone who worked in marketing for over 7 years, hearing non marketing people talk about it is infuriating.

So much complaining about how bad it apparently is or how much of a disadvantage it's putting Sony in when every single metric screams the opposite.

Their announcements have broken the internet whenever they drop some info. The reveal of the damm logo made the internet meltdown in hype and excitement.

Pre orders instantly sold out, seemingly a higher amount of stock in quicker time than its competitor.

Market research has seemingly shown that the target audience for consoles is overwhelmingly in favour of ps5.

So many people in this industry, be it games media or enthusiast groups are completely unaware of how ignorant they are of reality outside of their own bubble.

Absolutely baffling and infuriating to follow. As someone who wants to be hyped and embrace it through supposed professionals opinions, I'm increasingly left severely disappointed.

Grimmjow · Oct 10, 2020

CrispyGamer said:
Lol gamespot's latest video would make your blood boil

I saw that it was 26 minutes and the thumbnail had a confused looking woman standing next to a enlarged ps5. I already knew what was up and immediately got that off my YouTube feed

Bold One · Oct 10, 2020

Grimmjow said:
I saw that it was 26 minutes and the thumbnail had a confused looking woman standing next to a enlarged ps5. I already knew what was up and immediately got that off my YouTube feed

I recall it was like this at the start of this gen as well, tons of press calling it already for XBOX ONE.

The infamous 'Dont read too much into it' when PS4 crossed its 1 million milestone.

Eeyore said:
Yeah, CBS sold them to a different company and a bunch of them have been laid off.

ViaCom/ CBS Layoffs happening now and in the coming days

It seems ViacomCBS has started layoffs today and continuing over the next few days since the sale to RedVentures. I have seen things popping up on Twitter. Seems to be primarily affecting CNET as of now, but I'd assume any companies under the umbrella can be impacted. (Gamespot, CNET, etc)

www.resetera.com

Well, that sucks. Hope they land on their feet - this is not the time to be out of a job.

Necron · Oct 10, 2020

Crayon said:
That actually sounds like a good move, now that you mention it.

Edge glossy physical + digital subscription, $125. https://www.magazinesdirect.com/mobile/az-magazines/6936449/edge-magazine-subscription.thtml?j=EDG

Let's do it!

Edit: done. Can't wait to get my first issue and read some some non trash. I havent subscribed in like 18 years.

2Blackcats said:
Just done. I left the digital out because I'd only have all the good bits read before it arrived.

Was 90 euro for me for 13 issues.

Very cool. See you in the recent Edge #351 thread!
Also a pretty recent subscriber (since #333).

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Ogni-XR21 · Oct 10, 2020

disco_potato said:
Isn't that an LED? Maybe you can turn it off in the menus.

anexanhume said:
No, it's painted that way.

Funky_Monkey said:
I dont think so. I believe its green plastic underneath the grill.

disco_potato said:
Seriously? Hahahaha.

This should clear up the confusion:

Deleted member 1003 · Oct 10, 2020

Ogni-XR21 said:
This should clear up the confusion:

It's the holes that are painted.

anexanhume · Oct 10, 2020

Arex said:
I see! It is missing the DP logo on the USB-C port though so things might have changed in the final product. We'll find out I guess lol

May not make sense if they have no intention of using it for DP out for general use. (Only HDMI out works for displays).

Decarb · Oct 10, 2020

FlikBlueLightning said:
Maybe expecting folks to know how to use a screwdriver is too much to ask. Especially for tech enthusiasts.

Well the Verge uses Swiss army knife that hopefully has a screwdriver, so I can see why their employees get confused by screws.

ItIsOkBro · Oct 10, 2020

Dirtyshubb said:
Edit* just saw the posts about their jobs, sorry to hear that for them.

Just looking at the scepticism in her face as she talks about Sony's pre release strategy is enough to put me off.

As someone who worked in marketing for over 7 years, hearing non marketing people talk about it is infuriating.

So much complaining about how bad it apparently is or how much of a disadvantage it's putting Sony in when every single metric screams the opposite.

Their announcements have broken the internet whenever they drop some info. The reveal of the damm logo made the internet meltdown in hype and excitement.

Pre orders instantly sold out, seemingly a higher amount of stock in quicker time than its competitor.

Market research has seemingly shown that the target audience for consoles is overwhelmingly in favour of ps5.

So many people in this industry, be it games media or enthusiast groups are completely unaware of how ignorant they are of reality outside of their own bubble.

Absolutely baffling and infuriating to follow. As someone who wants to be hyped and embrace it through supposed professionals opinions, I'm increasingly left severely disappointed.

These guys ain't the impartial professionals you're hoping for. Microsoft gives them what they need to make content and Sony hasn't and that has coloured their perceptions.

Dirtyshubb · Oct 10, 2020

ItIsOkBro said:
These guys ain't the impartial professionals you're hoping for. Microsoft gives them what they need to make content and Sony doesn't and that has coloured their perceptions.

You mean GameSpot or pundits in general?

Never watched GameSpot before so didn't have any prior opinions on them.

But access and media engagement are a huge reason the games media are so easily swayed by or from one company compared to another.

Look at how many have been sent a series X which has resulted in them swooning over the console and yet they have to follow NDAs and are only allowed to focus on backwards compatibility.

They may say it's not having an effect on them but when every single channel I have seen that has one will always make sure to mention how Sony hasn't sent them ps5s yet but Microsoft has, it's obvious how it's influenced their opinion on the situation.

Seems all you need to do is say shit early and send stuff as pr and you can make people lose any form of critical thinking.

AllBizness · Oct 10, 2020

ItIsOkBro said:
These guys ain't the impartial professionals you're hoping for. Microsoft gives them what they need to make content and Sony doesn't and that has coloured their perceptions.

It's called marketing/pr and Sony hasn't spent money on as many influencers and publications to push positive narratives. Funny thing is people think the Bethesda acquisition is the first time Microsoft dug into that warchest. They go into that warchest the start of every gen with their marketing/pr push rather it be influencers, publications, various media to talk highly and not nearly as many negative comments as Sony gets.

E.T. · Oct 10, 2020

ItIsOkBro said:
These guys ain't the impartial professionals you're hoping for. Microsoft gives them what they need to make content and Sony hasn't and that has coloured their perceptions.

Strange how the gaming media in the US is constantly doubting Sony during the console release cycles.
Happens everytime.
It is what it is, very used to it now. Especially from the US gaming media.

Deleted member 17289 · Oct 10, 2020

AllBizness said:
It's called marketing/pr and Sony hasn't spent money on as many influencers and publications to push positive narratives. Funny thing is people think the Bethesda acquisition is the first time Microsoft dug into that warchest. They go into that warchest the start of every gen with their marketing/pr push rather it be influencers, publications, various media to talk highly and not nearly as many negative comments as Sony gets.

And yet they're behind every gen. I think a site has be to impartial when catering to a wide pool of viewers. Sony does not have to send consoles to influencers which is what DF is IMO. They do produce quality content, i however wish the bias that at least dictator shows would be less apparent. Nevertheless i enjoy what they put out.

Leveean · Oct 10, 2020

Dirtyshubb said:
You mean GameSpot or pundits in general?

Never watched GameSpot before so didn't have any prior opinions on them.

But access and media engagement are a huge reason the games media are so easily swayed by or from one company compared to another.

Look at how many have been sent a series X which has resulted in them swooning over the console and yet they have to follow NDAs and are only allowed to focus on backwards compatibility.

They may say it's not having an effect on them but when every single channel I have seen that has one will always make sure to mention how Sony hasn't sent them ps5s yet but Microsoft has, it's obvious how it's influenced their opinion on the situation.

Seems all you need to do is say shit early and send stuff as pr and you can make people lose any form of critical thinking.

Why shouldn't their opinion be influenced? Microsoft's approach is just objectively better for media and consumers. Everyone would be happier and more informed if PS5s were sent to everyone but instead they did a Japanese only supervised event.

E.T. · Oct 10, 2020

Dirtyshubb said:
You mean GameSpot or pundits in general?

Never watched GameSpot before so didn't have any prior opinions on them.

But access and media engagement are a huge reason the games media are so easily swayed by or from one company compared to another.

Look at how many have been sent a series X which has resulted in them swooning over the console and yet they have to follow NDAs and are only allowed to focus on backwards compatibility.

They may say it's not having an effect on them but when every single channel I have seen that has one will always make sure to mention how Sony hasn't sent them ps5s yet but Microsoft has, it's obvious how it's influenced their opinion on the situation.

Seems all you need to do is say shit early and send stuff as pr and you can make people lose any form of critical thinking.

I have never been a fan of gaming journalists receiving free goodies, games, hardware etc. Ripe for coloring their perception of a product or company.
I mean on a side note, gaming journalism itself is pretty terrible overall.

Deleted member 46804 · Oct 10, 2020

E.T. said:
Strange how the gaming media in the US is constantly doubting Sony during the console release cycles.
Happens everytime.
It is what it is, very used to it now. Especially from the US gaming media.

Of course the console will sell fine but I think it's healthy to have some skepticism of something you haven't been hands on with. The narrative will change if Sony delivers with their console next month and assuredly the narrative will just shift based on the sales gap between the PS5 and the XSS/X.

E.T. · Oct 10, 2020

dEvAnGeL said:
And yet they're behind every gen. I think a site has be to impartial when catering to a wide pool of viewers. Sony does not have to send consoles to influencers which is what DF is IMO. They do produce quality content, i however wish the bias that at least dictator shows would be less apparent. Nevertheless i enjoy what they put out.

Dictator is biased toward what? PC gaming?

platocplx · Oct 10, 2020

E.T. said:
Strange how the gaming media in the US is constantly doubting Sony during the console release cycles.
Happens everytime.
It is what it is, very used to it now. Especially from the US gaming media.

better that way. Sony is still undervalued in the stock market I remember when they were trading at 19 bucks a share in 2014. Now at 78. Crazy time for them over the years.

Bold One · Oct 10, 2020

Leveean said:
Why shouldn't their opinion be influenced? Microsoft's approach is just objectively better for media and consumers. Everyone would be happier and more informed if PS5s were sent to everyone but instead they did a Japanese only supervised event.

They are a Japanese company.

Whats this ethnocentrism? Same people had issues that the teardown was done by their Japanese tech-heads instead of the guy from DF.

Lobster Roll · Oct 10, 2020

Tusken77 said:
This guy takes a 3D printed PS5 around IKEA. lol

Dang that console is going to be one trillion degrees hot if people jam it into those compartments like that.

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