PSA: Don't Play the SF6 beta on 4K, ~2f extra input lag vs 1080p.

[neoak]

Kimagre released a input lag test of SF6 beta 2 on PS5, and results are encouraging for 1080p 60hz and 1080p 120hz.

4K? Avoid like the plague.

These results are way better than the first beta, at least for 1080p.

Note that all measurements are given out of 60 Fps, even the 120hz mode so numbers are directly applicable. See the video for the 1080p120.


View: https://twitter.com/kimagreGaming/status/1603754108204486656


View: https://twitter.com/kimagreGaming/status/1603754111278911488

 

[Xtortion]

What about 4K120? Or is the game running at 1080p in 120hz mode?

 

[J_ToSaveTheDay]

Ohhh cool that it supports 120Hz. That's the option I'd go for.

I find that even when a game is locked at 60fps, the display refreshing twice the rate results in a much smoother response and image, so glad to see that option here (and wish more fighting games would support it).

 

[Devil]

I played all day in 4k with input delay reduction on (that's the 120hz mode, right?) and can't say I have noticed any perceptable delay.

Why is that mode not in the table? Wasn't it tested?

 

[Xtortion]

I played all day in 4k with input delay reduction on (that's the kind of 120hz mode, right?) and can't say I have noticed any perceptable delay.

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I assume 120hz mode would be the same resolution as 60hz since apparently the game is running at 60 in both modes - you just have the option to kick your TV/monitor into 120hz mode to reduce input lag.

 

[neoak]

I played all day in 4k with input delay reduction on (that's the 120hz mode, right?) and can't say I have noticed any perceptable delay.

Why is that mode not in the table? Wasn't it tested?

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I assume their capture device can't handle 4K 120hz. They seem to be HDMI 2.0.

Digital Foundry had to get quite an upgrade to handle 4K120.

 

[vixolus]

How are you supposed to tell a 0.03s diff

 

[neoak]

How are you supposed to tell a 0.03s diff

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Blink

 

[Dest]

They've still got months and months to clean things up.

 

[Joule]

Initial figures were higher, right? 3.5ms is really really good. Glad Capcom addressed it

 

[Yoshimitsu126]

I'm probably just gonna play the single player content only and vs bots anyway

 

[buttzilla]

I'm surprised more fighting games don't pull a Killer Instinct (2013): have the game always running at 90fps and doing it's own rollback to 60FPS to decrease input lag and having smooth online rollback play

 

[neoak]

Initial figures were higher, right? 3.5ms is really really good. Glad Capcom addressed it

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It's 3.5f, so ~58ms

First beta was around 90ms for 1080p 60, and 101ms for 4k 120. Noodalls tested that.

4K still has the same input lag, but 1080p was reduced.

 

[Joule]

It's 3.5f, so ~58ms

First beta was around 90ms for 1080p 60, and 101ms for 4k 120. Noodalls tested that.

4K still has the same input lag, but 1080p was reduced.

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Gotcha. Hopefully they can improve upon it further in both resolutions to reach those Multiversus and JoJo figures.

 

[Pargon]

Initial figures were higher, right? 3.5ms is really really good. Glad Capcom addressed it

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It's frames, not milliseconds.
They really should be using milliseconds though, because it makes the chart a bit confusing.

• 3.40 frames at 120 FPS would be 28ms.
• 3.65 frames at 60 FPS is 60.83ms.
• 5.24 frames at 60 FPS is 87.3ms.

I doubt the difference is that large, and the first result is probably 56.67ms.

 

[neoak]

It's frames, not milliseconds.
I doubt the difference is that large, and the first result is probably 56.67ms.

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That's correct. In the video, it's being measured out of 60F for the 120hz mode to give a comparison to 60hz.

Only fighting game so far that really goes down in input lag for 120hz to ~27ms is Samurai Shodown.

Noodalls gives his in ms, but he only has tested the first beta so far.

 

[Link_enfant]

Does that mean we might need to choose 1080p output in the PS5 settings to play SF6 in the best conditions (if things are the same for the full game)?
Or can it be toggled directly in-game like most Performance modes?

 

[NaM]

is this a console problem only?

 

[MegaSackman]

How they can fix it for release. I'll keep playing at 4K since I'm terrible anyway, at least I have a good excuse.

 

[DanielG123]

How are you supposed to tell a 0.03s diff

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I don't know personally, but I'm certain high level players and pros can.

 

[MZZ]

I am on performance + HFR on PS5. Does this lower it to 1080p?

I noticed the responsiveness as I press a button during a match with great connection or in training is noticeable when enabling the HFR mode. (Or maybe my last match before I enabled that had a bad connection)

 

[pswii60]

Why can't every game output at 120hz on PS5 like XSS/XSX? It's frustrating that Sony doesn't give us this option tbh. It's clear here it can make a difference even at the same framerate.

is this a console problem only?

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There are so many variables on PC that I guess it's more difficult to measure and put in a tidy table. Even just in the Nvidia CP options you have three latency modes, then there's the different Vsync options, framerates, VRR, and different hardware configurations. And different input methods and interfaces.

 

[hey it's that dog]

So is 1080p achieved through in-game settings or do we have to set it at the console level?

 

[Yudoken]

is this a console problem only?

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Yeah, seem like on PS5 120hz mode is exclusive for 1080p for whatever reason.