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Whenever I try to purchase a game it says 'an error has occurred', I am from India BTW
Restart the store. I've run into this trying to redeem a bugged DLC.
Spent the last 30 minutes just putting in all my PS3 discs into my Super Slim and prompting patches to download.
I just bought a BC launch PS3 along with a bunch of upgrades for it (power supply, thermal paste, SSD, etc), so I'll be backing up my Super Slim to an external SSD tonight, then restoring all that data to my "new" BC PS3 in a few weeks.
I just bought a BC launch PS3 along with a bunch of upgrades for it (power supply, thermal paste, SSD, etc), so I'll be backing up my Super Slim to an external SSD tonight, then restoring all that data to my "new" BC PS3 in a few weeks.
On your BC system did you get them to repaste under the IHS. That's what cause fat PS3s to overheat.
Weird! I must be misremembering and thinking of another game, but I could have sworn it was Drakengard 3.
I'm going to be doing that myself; I got everything from a new power supply to new thermal pads.
Is there a way I can force download an update without having to use the disc? I'm still waiting on my copy of Persona 4 Arena Ultimax to come in
Did it last week, just hit up iFixit, they have guides for most of the major PS3 revisions. Took me about 15 minutes, to swap out, PS3 boots up and asks you to sign in again and then its done.
I have a pre-slim fatty, not full backcompat, but with the die-shrunk cell. Its a an NTSC-J model I got primarily for 480p and Japanese PS1 Game support.
I just want to note one thing I have hated perpetually since the original PS1 is Sony abysmal track record with 480p and 60hz support. On PS2 a lot of PAL titles need forcing with GSM Launcher to run in 60hz and the bloody PS3 which has a HDMI port at the dawn of the HD era along with analog out and was launched pretty much when 60HZ support had been available since the Mid-90s on most European TVs will still lock Games to 50hz and 576i/576p when played on a PAL system with a pal game. Theres also a mismatch if you download and try and run PAL PS One Classics on an NTSC console because they don't support 576P/576i and likewise vice-versa a NTSC PS3 disc will not play at 576p on a PAL PS3
I know its a small thing but god is it infuriating, and thankfully the PS4 runs all titles at least at 60hz 480p at lowest rez.
No, the only way to get updates is by having the game on your system, outside of custom firmware.
And I can't get custom firmware (yet) because the whole point of me getting a PS3 was Street Fighter III 3rd Strike Online and Darkstalkers Resurrection
"July 12th" they said, I swear
Good Luck.
I've got a BC system I picked up recently that I need to do it to.
There is no custom firmware for the PS4 as the SAMU (Secure Asset Management Unit) hasn't been defeated yet, at least in public.
They sent me an empty envelope for the PS VR camera adapter for PS5 back in November. Every once in a while I will call them and bitch and get a new case number and be told that it will be escalated to the "Adapter Team" like that is even a real thing. I continue to call them every few weeks for entertainment at this point and just to be a general pain in the ass to them. I have 8(!) different case numbers for the same issue. Each time I say, why do I need a new case number, and they say the last one wasn't entered correctly, and I say really X number of times it was wrong? Needless to say here is is 6 months later and I had to rehook up my PS4 to play Iron Man VR I bought over black Friday. Sony's support is absolute fucking garbage, and this is from a guy who has owned every PlayStation since the PS1. If I could find a Series X to buy I am ready to cut the cord. Between my own shit trying to get an adapter I can't get anywhere else, and this shit with the PS3 store and the PS4 CMOS battery issue Sony doesn't deserve my money.
I tried 8 times before my purchase went through. Keep trying and it will hopefully work eventually.
your error is probably related to this if you have not turned on your PS3 in a while. You need to generate a device setup password to log in. Go to http://idp.sn/device-password and login. Click generate new password and use that as your login password on the PS3.
It's related to two factor authentication somehow.
edit: no idea if this works where you are in India. I had to do this a couple of years ago when setting up a PS3 to download that I hadn't used in a long time.
Call them, don't mention any of your previous cases, tell them you need an adapter to be able to use the Move controllers in Dreams, ask them to manually send one since you can't use the request form due to the need for a VR serial on that form. Maybe give up an address of a nearby relative, willing neighbor if you think that can give you trouble.
I cannot agree about ZOE. Something regularly dipping to teens is not what a lot of people would consider acceptable. So that matters in our decision making. It feels bad faith to discount it since it has a PS2 port. That's not the HD game now is it? Saying there's another copy of the game doesn't mean the PS3 game is not broken. At it is unacceptably bad to a lot of people.
I agree with your general point, but saying NONE so definitively does not help your argument.
Literally all of us in this thread know about any number of games we could pop in and see if they work. If you claim that there are games that do NOT work, it is on you, the person attempting to argue against the default assumption, that something works, to prove so.
It is pretty hilarious that you think that the vast swathes of games that absolutely work just fine without patches (I have played a bunch myself and any number of people in this thread can say so), is somehow invalid as an argument.
A reasonable person would assume a commercial product works as intended unless otherwise demonstrated because, ya know, typically if something doesn't work, those interested are preeeetty likely to hear about it. A game being unplayable on disk is often big news.
We are on massive fucking nerd website of hardcore PS3 fans, and no one can provide an exception to the assumption that these things actually just like, ya know. Work.
These are not equal positions.
A better position for you to try to argue would be perhaps addressing the fact that many DLCs require a game update to work. It makes sense that that would be the case, and all of us here have run into that sort of scenario. For example, iirc a few lego games do not work with the DLC until you patch them. And we've all seen patch notes that say in order to use the DLC please download patch 1.07 or whatever. In this case this is a positive assumption that all of us could make based on how software works, and we have all known examples of it happening. It's less of a proof that physical isn't always better, but still, most people who buy physical will download the odd dlc, and would reasonably expect it to work.
Can you actually download patches on a CFW PS3 or do you just mean applying patches downloaded on your PC beforehand?
Sony really needs to put something in place for all of this.
I'm over here watching Viva Pinata from the Xbox 360 update (just one of MS's random updates for BC probably) while reading this.
It's a bit surreal. I don't even have a way (hardware) to update any PS3 games right now, so I guess I'm out of luck on anything I own there.
I'm over here watching Viva Pinata from the Xbox 360 update (just one of MS's random updates for BC probably) while reading this.
It's a bit surreal. I don't even have a way (hardware) to update any PS3 games right now, so I guess I'm out of luck on anything I own there.
Yikes, that is some next level awfulness! I totally agree with your stance at this point. Aside from the PS1 and PSP, I've had all the Sony consoles. I haven't gotten a PS5 so far and at this point I don't plan to. I've been dragging my feet with getting my own VR adapter. I hope I don't run into this same foolishness from them. I've had 4 prior instances over the years where I had to contact Sony support and only once did they actually solve the problem. That was likely because I was trying to give them money and it wasn't working. In the other cases, they already had my money and it was pretty clear they had no interest in helping me.
On an unrelated note, does anyone know how to determine what version of a game is on your disc? I have the physical copy of Fracture and according to that big spreadsheet linked earlier, it should have a patch. But I've let the game install it's files to the HDD, but the XMB says the game is at the latest version. In game, trying to connect online doesn't find a patch either (I doubt the servers are even up for this game, but I figured it was worth a shot). Man, this whole situation is so frustrating.
Ha, fun. I just started playing the DS game the other day. Enjoying it right now. Almost as good as the xbox game.
The craziest thing, is that if the patch servers go down, it's maybe not the biggest deal for PS3, but look at how many games on PS4 were straight up broken at release, or didn't work at all. If the same thing happens for PS4 7 years from now, it's going to be far more devastating
I haven't used it, so I don't know if the former is possible. I do know the latter is though. You pull the patches from Sony's servers onto your PC and then install them from a USB.
Damn I thought everyone who was downloading and patching all their games was being overly paranoid...
Okay, that's what I figured. I'm actually in the process of grabbing patches on PC now and it's quite the pain, but at least it's going.
First I never made no such comment that certain games do NOT work, so perhaps you can point to where I made that exact statement. Let's address what I DID actually say:
The term coasters, admittedly, was a clumsy choice of words inferring that the discs use all utility without the patches. I'm aware the literal-minded among us would take this as me saying that the games STOP WORKING ENTIRELY, when subsequent posts clearly expressed that what I meant was alot of discs feature 1.0 versions of that game and rely on post-launch patches to get them to their optimal state. I took accountability for this, retracted the sentiment about 'coasters' and clarified my position to something more sensible which I expressed in the immediate follow-up to the comment you quoted, directed at a different poster partaking in that discussion trail:
The only thing 'on me' was to better phrase what I meant and intended and I did exactly that. So with that said, when the person I was initially speaking to drops numbers and percentages based on their own estimations, I'm well in bounds within the context of that discussion to ask what the source is of said numbers ( and I did so, and not in an antagonistic manner).
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At this point I am thinking of just saying screw it and hacking my PS3.
That way I can avoid the whole cmos shit and I can download any update I need.
That way I can avoid the whole cmos shit and I can download any update I need.
No one here being able to establish a real specific percentage doesn't matter. The amount of games where a patch is super important to be able to play reasonably well on PS3 is so small that only a couple examples have been posted here. Given the system has like 2000 games, it's more reasonable for someone to say "hey 99% of PS3 games really don't need a patch" than otherwise.
I don't really agree coasters is awkward wording for saying it is "different." That doesn't feel like rewording, that feels like you backing off your position when you got pushback. I never assumed you meant stop working all together. But even with hyperbole saying coaster gave an indication of needing very important patches. Saying merely "different" is a completely different world. That's not a change in wording your position or backing from hyperbole. That is a fundamentally different position altogether.
I'd say zone of the enders HD is a great example. It's playable and certainly not a coaster, but if you were to call it unplayable in hyperbole like, I'm not so bad faith as to purposely misinterpret that. I get what you mean. It's important to the game.
The problem is given how few games anyone seems to be able to think of that are very important i still don't think you can claim your position is equal to the claim that the problematic games are miniscule.
Saying that oh no sometimes they may be "different" doesn't even make sense with your argument. If they are merely different, and not missing something important that a patch fixed, then...what's the problem? Different is such a neutral word. If you are going to push an argument that it's a problem, then you literally need to argue that these games are missing important patches.
Remember, you are taking a playable physical game that may or may not be different than it could be with patches, vs literally not being able to access or play the game at all with a digital copy. Those two are not even comparable. That's not a remotely strong argument. If you want it to be strong, you need to demonstrate that there is a significant number of important PS3 patches that a reasonable person would agree are pretty vital to their respective games. But you can't, because there really isn't that many. I can't prove that, because that's a negative. Burden of proof is on the person who challenges the default assumption, in this case that things work as they're supposed to. We all know that the average disk you buy and put in your console works without a patch, for PS3. So the natural assumption is that that continues until we meet an exception. And so far we don't really know of any. It is clearly the majority. If you want to challenge that, it's on you to prove the positive that there are a significant number of these games that need important patches. If you can't even provide any, then "99%" isn't a weird crazy colloquial conclusion to make.
Your argument just isn't convincing because you can't like...bring one. In order to avoid kickback, you've just neutered your wording to be like, toothless.
I'm not against your entire argument, and I think the other guy was being pretty disingenuous (for example with ZotE as I said), but genuinely as someone who was reading the two of you argue, like, idk, it bugged me you acted like your positions were the same. Just because of you don't have literal number proofs doesn't make your positions equal on the whole, which you tried to kinda push.
"Network crashing?" What are you talking about? The game crashes, full stop, unless you manually delete all of the newer DLC that causes the game to crash. That's NOT playable. And even if you argue that deleting the extra content makes it work again, on what planet is having to delete all of this DLC that you paid for okay?
So running the risk of blowing out your speakers or damaging your hearing is OK, then. Cool.
At some point, there is a need to ease off the hypothetical "well it's technically playable" and concede that it's not practical to use in a real-world scenario.
No problem with SF3 Online. EU/FR
Same for Virtua Fighter Final Showdown (Digital PS+). EU/FR
Same for Dead or Alive 5 (Digital PS+)
Burnout Paradise Ok (1.90)
BioShock Infinite Ok (1.07)
But SoulCalibur V stay at 1.00 (no update ?).. this is Digital Version... maybe this version is fully updated...
Weird case... because even for an old game removed on PSStore like GTI Club+, my PS3 can find an update
I haven't had a single game fail to update when an update is available yet, and I tested over 30 titles. I think the "Patch games now" title is kinda premature.
No problem with SF3 Online. EU/FR
Same for Virtua Fighter Final Showdown (Digital PS+). EU/FR
Same for Dead or Alive 5 (Digital PS+)
Burnout Paradise Ok (1.90)
BioShock Infinite Ok (1.07)
But SoulCalibur V stay at 1.00 (no update ?).. this is Digital Version... maybe this version is fully updated...
Weird case... because even for an old game removed on PSStore like GTI Club+, my PS3 can find an update
Gran Turismo 5 (XL) - NTSC
There are 27 updates for this game. Took while to download and install them but the game has booted up. Currently installing the game onto my SSD to ensure it works.
Gran Turismo 6 - NTSC
I forgot to count how many updates there were but... It took a long time to download them all. Upon booting the game up, it took an even longer time installing them. I lost count of how many hours it took (with an SSD no less). It did eventually boot up just fine though. If you're using a HDD, it might be wise to download and install each update separately.
There are 27 updates for this game. Took while to download and install them but the game has booted up. Currently installing the game onto my SSD to ensure it works.
Gran Turismo 6 - NTSC
I forgot to count how many updates there were but... It took a long time to download them all. Upon booting the game up, it took an even longer time installing them. I lost count of how many hours it took (with an SSD no less). It did eventually boot up just fine though. If you're using a HDD, it might be wise to download and install each update separately.
I can play Online on SoulCalibur V, wich I supposed 1.00 for Digital Version is the latest patch.
Yes... for now... I think it's kinda premature like you said... more like issue on server... (maybe bc too many people DL games & patch Vita/PS3).
Didn't Sony close the online servers to both of these?
Online MP is not working right?
Saying 'many' games need patches to work optimally wasn't challenging the default assumption that most games are fine without them. If I had intended to make that claim then I would have said 'most' games need patches to reach a baseline of playability. That would have been an extremely bold take to make. The only thing that even 'infers' that notion from my end was the coasters comment.
And it was that realization that this particular phrasing neither heightened the discourse nor genuinely reflected what I know is the case that I, as you say, took a fundamentally different position in the interests of a good faith commentary. It was not, as you say, neutering my argument in order to avoid pushback but what I can't control, nor would I attempt to, is what you perceived my 'backing down' to indicate.
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this is non-sense if Sony keep Demo PSP/PS3 Games of 12 years ago (Yakuza 3, GOW PSP, Patapon, LoCoRoco) , but remove patch...
Okay I think I'm good now. Ejected the disk and dusted the PS3's casing and the lip of the disk insert and now it sounds normal again. Maybe it's just Shadows of the Damned (and I'm pretty sure something fucky is going on with the lack of updates, because the textures just failed to load).