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PSA: Zoom is not secure, leaking emails, and other issues
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Not if you want to talk to each other for more than 40 minutes.
If your team is mostly centralized you won't do a VTC. your bosses might, but you and your team won't
Similarly, you might have always relied on one person to know how to set it up for the meetings where someone has to call in. And now your problem is that that person is not on every one of your meetings. And is probably continuously exasperated that nobody fucking understands how to call in and half the people have the meeting on their laptop and their speakerphone and you spend the first five minutes of every call explaining to people to mute themselves
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It will.
"It will include a bug bounty program, which pays people who discover and report security flaws, and a review of the platform with third-party experts. "
From what I saw it requires physical access to compromise a machine.
Turns out it was due to security. I was on the school district website and saw:
"We are aware of the concerns surrounding Zoom and want you to know that we are taking a proactive approach to protect our students and staff. There are many benefits of Zoom during the closure of our schools, and we are hopeful this tool will help to support the learning of our students, and to foster ongoing connections between our students and their teachers.
To that end, we've been working on these proactive security measures over the past six days. Here are the steps we are currently implementing:"
And then steps are listed.
I knew something was up with its installation. Installing anything on my work computer requires a password entry, but somehow Zoom installed without asking for it.
I don't understand why my university hospital switched to Zoom after we successfully had a Skype for Business meeting the week before. I think it's just the cool thing to do right now and everybody is jumping on
Video quality of FaceTime sucks compared to Zoom from my experience
thaddeus e. grugq on Twitter
“Zoom - has bugs like all other software. Zoom - fixing bugs and being responsible. Zoom - software I easily taught my dad to use for remote classes over email and WhatsApp. Zoom - not rated for sensitive data: natsec, confidential sources, etc. Zoom - use it, it’s fine.”
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I trust grugq on this matter over explosive headlines.
Skype for Business is coming to end of life July next year. WOuld make sense to get used to using another tool before then.
thaddeus e. grugq on Twitter
“Zoom - has bugs like all other software. Zoom - fixing bugs and being responsible. Zoom - software I easily taught my dad to use for remote classes over email and WhatsApp. Zoom - not rated for sensitive data: natsec, confidential sources, etc. Zoom - use it, it’s fine.”
I trust grugq on this matter over explosive headlines.
In grugq we trust.
My work never implemented work from home until now. Before if someone couldn't attend a meeting, we just held it without the person.
Clients prefer in person meetings, whenever that wasn't possible, we just held a call conference.
We're using Teams now, but I don't think many companies (mostly small or middle sized ones) are all in on these systems, or had the chance to try them before now, so they're scrambling to do so.
My zoom just updated and stated that UNC link issue is now fixed.
Zoom Lets Attackers Steal Windows Credentials, Run Programs via UNC Links
The Zoom Windows client is vulnerable to UNC path injection in the client's chat feature that could allow attackers to steal the Windows credentials of users who click on the link.www.bleepingcomputer.com
Honestly, i'm reading this and all i'm thinking is WHAT THE FUCK, WINDOWS?
Click on any UNC link and you attempt a SMB connection.. ok.
Just attempting any SMB connection exposes windows credentials?! Username AND password?
Daily reminder that windows is, from a security standpoint, a complete and utter shitshow.
Zoom must be delighted having all the security experts discovering all their security flaws for free.
But maybe they should have hired a few in the first place.
I spoke to our organizer. We already have access to Microsoft Teams, so I'm suggesting we move toward that.
Because that's how long a group meeting is allowed to last on the free plan.
This is for group meetings consisting of more than 2 people. If it's 1 on 1, then the call can last indefinitely. The benefit most people have with zoom is that it doesn't require a pre existing account. Just the app.
But yeah, this is another instance of convenience versus security, as well as a strong marketing push.
Compared to most video apps out there it does a far better job than most apps for dealing with low bandwidth and computer resources when dealing with groups (usually more than 2/3). I've used a range of video apps over the years and most apps (that aren't enterprise) will drop video or have a lag in audio where on zoom the quality is solid. My company also tried to use a new app for short video messages called Jamm and when 5 of us are on a call my 2019 i7 macbook pro the app consumes 75% of my CPU. Webex & Bluejeans are generally good but a bit too enterprize for consumers, where zoom is just dead simple (which is leading to 2/3 of the problems it's having right now).
Zoom vulnerabilities keep coming, two more reported today - 9to5Mac
It seems hardly a day can go by without more Zoom vulnerabilities being discovered – with not just one but two more being revealed today ...
9to5mac.com
I'm sorry we did not like Webex teams so much we are deprecating it in favor of MS Teams. I wish you the best of luck. Based on using it 1+ years I would recommend using MS Teams instead.
No worries. I work with competitive offers and I see that from time to time. Usually I sell WebEx meetings to Ms teams users since the plug in is already available as a meeting tab.
I saw a lot of people in this thread wondering why Zoom is being used over its competitors. One anecdotal experience from myself: after having tried Skype, Skype for Business, Google Hangouts, Slack and Zoom for maintaining a permanent call for remote teams it was clear that Zoom was the most stable and with the best picture quality. But this was around 2 years ago and we haven't really tried the other ones out recently. Teams seemed decent.
Ah okay that makes sense. I think the biggest problem was that in the year I used it the app had many crashes/ some really bad regressions. My message to that team would be to really look to improve stability and maybe work with their product owners to slow down feature rollout a bit.
MS Teams was re-written from the ground up with a all new video and audio stack over Skype for business.
I use it every day with multiple calls a day and screen sharing /presentations. It works very well. In March I attended a virtual conference that spanned 800 one hour presentations over 4 days, each session ranged from 100 to 250 attendees.
For anyone currently using or thinking of using Zoom, Wired have a good write-up of how to use it as safely as possible https://www.wired.com/story/keep-zoom-chats-private-secure/
Zoom admits routing some calls through china
Jesus H Christ Zoom.
betanews.com
Zoom admits to routing some US calls through China
As if the various privacy and security concerns that have plagued Zoom recently had not been enough, now it has been revealed that the company has been routing some calls made in North America through China.
betanews.com
Shit, I just watched a stream from a museum.
Without getting too technical, I just uninstalled the program from control panel. Is there anything else I should remove? Am I safe after removing it?
Without getting too technical, I just uninstalled the program from control panel. Is there anything else I should remove? Am I safe after removing it?
So, my work was already using Teams but we had official news today regarding Zoom - we can't use it, even if the clients suggest it to have meetings.
I'm glad, I rather not have to use it ever with all the risks that have been found.
I'm glad, I rather not have to use it ever with all the risks that have been found.
Got this email from Zoom today (I had purchased the $20 subscription so my friends and I can play card games online without getting kicked after 40 minutes. Might as well make the most of it before I cancelled)
It seems they are making some strides to improve their security, but that's not to say the heat should in any way be kept off them until they stop this stupid shady shit.
It seems they are making some strides to improve their security, but that's not to say the heat should in any way be kept off them until they stop this stupid shady shit.