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Publishers you know will slash the price so hold off buying new games
- Thread starter Paradox House
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Marios plus rabbids is so amazong... indont regret paying 60 bucks on digital version. I have almost 50h on it... its a chess game with mario costumes. Really great game
This is a ridiculous line of thinking. Everybody reading this: Don't ever feel like you have to buy a game at full price to ensure you get another game in that franchise. Do yourself a favor and save some money.
I'm so sick of people acting like it's our duty to shell out $60-$100 for every new game. You don't owe anything to any of these companies. Buy at the price you want to, and don't feel guilty or whatever.
Yup. It ensures that the ONLY Nintendo games I ever play are the surefire good ones.
Like, I want to experiment with some of their releases this year, but the knowledge that they will forever be full priced ensures I never play them.
One thing I know for sure I won't buy any new release in October or November. Seriously, near Black Friday you can get so many new releases 50% off. Even AC Origins was very cheap.
BTW, about Bethesda... Maybe it's just part of their plan? Maybe they know they will sell many copies via various sales? I hope so. I guess we have to wait till E3 to really see - if they will announce new single-player game, that would mean they still can sell. Maybe just not during launch window. Because I think we always are talking how some games "bombed" after 1 month or 2 months... but what about 6 months or a year? It would be interesting to get some data but it's hard to get info on digital sales on consoles for example. And as I'm looking around I see more and more people buying digital on PS4, Switch and X1.
BTW, about Bethesda... Maybe it's just part of their plan? Maybe they know they will sell many copies via various sales? I hope so. I guess we have to wait till E3 to really see - if they will announce new single-player game, that would mean they still can sell. Maybe just not during launch window. Because I think we always are talking how some games "bombed" after 1 month or 2 months... but what about 6 months or a year? It would be interesting to get some data but it's hard to get info on digital sales on consoles for example. And as I'm looking around I see more and more people buying digital on PS4, Switch and X1.
You are both right.
He is speaking an unfortunate truth only relevant to the industry enthusiast side of us.
The consumer side obviously should not give a fuck.
The only games on Steam that seem to be forever full priced are the Call of Duty games.
I really want to play Infinite Warfare's campaign, but fuck activision if they think I intend to pay a cent more than $20.
Yeah this year really cemented the idea that any game released in Sept, Oct, and early Nov dropped by 33-50% on black friday. I'm glad I bought South Park and played through it and even traded it in before black friday but regretted buying AC Origins, Forza 7, and a few other games. Next year I will only buy 1 or 2 games that I know I will finish during that same timeframe.
but anyways at this point everyone but Nintendo seems to be dropping their price rapidly.
but anyways at this point everyone but Nintendo seems to be dropping their price rapidly.
Let's not exaggerate here. "Sure fire" games like Mario and Zelda are the ones that retain their full prices longest, but even those get discounts and eventually price drops, even if they're not big ones. All you have to do is check out Wii U or 3DS Select Line.
Smaller games or ones that don't do well can usually be found cheaper much faster.
I was always intending to get The New Colossus but I had a sneaking suspicion that they'd reduce the price of it on Steam to coincide with Black Friday/Winter/Xmas sales. I didn't think they'd go as far as to reduce it by half. Was/is that due to something else then: lower-than expected sales, PC issues...or is it just confidence in the upturn in activity sales periods often bring?
I mean, both things are true.
People don't want to spend 60, and the publishers realise this. Customers wait for sales, pubs look for other revenue stream.
The market goes where the customers go, ultimately.
There's also no need to feel bad. Prices wouldn't be slashed if it didn't help the bottom line.
Yeah people have different circumstances and of course I respect that.
Hey, I'm not trying to blame people. They can do whatever they want. But they shouldn't be surprised if publishers take a message from their actions.
Ubisoft I guess. I didn't pick up Assassins Creed : Origins because from their earlier output I excpect the game to be even more cheaper next year.
Same with the new Shadow of Mordor, know it'll be even cheaper in an additional 6 months.
Same with the new Shadow of Mordor, know it'll be even cheaper in an additional 6 months.
Bethesda really short themselves in the foot with me in regards to Wolfenstein 2 and Evil Within 2. I want both of these, but seeing how quickly they're plummeting in price, I don't want to touch them at $25-$30. They'll be $10-$15 in no time, just like Doom, Fallout 4, and Prey.
Not that keeping prices high adds any sense of value to a game either. Arms will never be worth $60 in my eyes, so it's guaranteed to never get a sale from me.
Not that keeping prices high adds any sense of value to a game either. Arms will never be worth $60 in my eyes, so it's guaranteed to never get a sale from me.
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I get to play all their big releases for free if I wait like 6 months, longer if it sells well.
I get to play all their big releases for free if I wait like 6 months, longer if it sells well.
Then you might perhaps be tempted when Nintendo are feeling fairly generous in their own sales...when the game is being sold for...$58.99, yes?
When my primary gaming platform was the PC I pretty much refused to buy full priced games. Not just because they were discounted so quickly, but because often times you can get discounts on pre-ordered versions of games. I did that with Cupbead this year, got it discounted at day 1.
When I moved to the Switch as my primary gaming platform I gave up on that stance because I didn't want to wait months for games to play. For first party Nintendo games I signed up for GCU to mitigate some of the costs of those titles. For third party Switch titles I tried to hold off on a few that I expected to be discounted and bought a few that I expected to hold their price (or ones I just had to have like Doom and Rabbids). So far the only wrong guesses I have made were on Ultra Street Fighter 2 (really expected a sale on it Black Friday) and Xenoverse 2 (I bought it full price not expecting such a price drop on Black Friday).
When I moved to the Switch as my primary gaming platform I gave up on that stance because I didn't want to wait months for games to play. For first party Nintendo games I signed up for GCU to mitigate some of the costs of those titles. For third party Switch titles I tried to hold off on a few that I expected to be discounted and bought a few that I expected to hold their price (or ones I just had to have like Doom and Rabbids). So far the only wrong guesses I have made were on Ultra Street Fighter 2 (really expected a sale on it Black Friday) and Xenoverse 2 (I bought it full price not expecting such a price drop on Black Friday).
Good luck. That's not a viable long term strategy to keep getting the types of games you enjoy. At least not without in game economies.
Anyone who isn't Nintendo or maybe Blizzard.
I'm not a charity, I will always choose 3-4 games that are a few months old and have had a few bug fix patches over buying 1 new release. The "AAA" games industry gives zero incentive to buy on release or pre-order, especially when their "day one" editions are in many cases still clogging up shelves a year after release (hello FFXV!).
I'm not a charity, I will always choose 3-4 games that are a few months old and have had a few bug fix patches over buying 1 new release. The "AAA" games industry gives zero incentive to buy on release or pre-order, especially when their "day one" editions are in many cases still clogging up shelves a year after release (hello FFXV!).
Those games aren't going to make a profit, the sales are to stem the bleeding. Thats 3 dead franchises.
You really don't think there will be a 3rd Wolfenstein? It's quite clearly setup as a trilogy. I'd be a bit stunned if they weren't already working on it.
I would never fault gamers for waiting for a sale, many of us can only afford so much and that's the only way people will buy all the games they'd like.
I don't understand why publishers repeatedly undercut themselves like this. Sure, it's more sales but you would think a month after release you would still have some word of mouth hype going on. Threads like this just re-enforce that they've created a culture where people will just wait for the sale rather then paying full price, especially knowing that said sale is only a month or so away. I would definitely think they should be holding price for probably a good 6 months post-release from my armchair gaming company executive position. (Though selfishly, im glad they don't).
I don't understand why publishers repeatedly undercut themselves like this. Sure, it's more sales but you would think a month after release you would still have some word of mouth hype going on. Threads like this just re-enforce that they've created a culture where people will just wait for the sale rather then paying full price, especially knowing that said sale is only a month or so away. I would definitely think they should be holding price for probably a good 6 months post-release from my armchair gaming company executive position. (Though selfishly, im glad they don't).
You're not being greedy man. You're being reasonable and smart.
I can't fault people waiting for a sale but it pains me when I see people refuse to ever jump in on certain types of games day 1. Bethesda's output is the perfect example. I really care about supporting those types of titles so I go out of my way to pick them up immediately. However, they keep underperforming and get marked down quickly so people are becoming trained to just wait so the next game sells even worse. It's a bad spiral and I really wish I had a solution to it. I want these types of games to survive.
Probably because of the hype cycle of gaming - people would move on to other titles. There's too much competition in gaming and data shows that single player games fall off a cliff in sales in weeks.
It does feel like buying a game day one is making less and less sense. Not only are price cuts coming sooner and stronger than ever in the UK, more and more games are launching needing patches to get them at an acceptable standard. So not only are you paying double to play it a month earlier, you're playing a worse game.
I generally don't buy games at more than €15 (except Nintendo games, they never get discounted so it's better going D1) and I don't mind waiting even 2 years to get games at those prices. There's a lot to play in the low budget market to keep me busy.
Say what you will about Nintendo only ever lowerung the cost of their games by 5 or so dollars (or by 20 or so if you want to wait three years for it to be put in a Selects collection) but it ensures 2 things for me as a consumer
1. That I have no incentive to wait because the game will be the same price in a year as it is now.
2. That the game I purchased never loses value, meaning it'll bring in a decent value if I should decide to sell it or trade it in.
Which also means that Nintendo isn't incentivized to insert bullshit GAaS transactions into the flow of the game proper.
1. That I have no incentive to wait because the game will be the same price in a year as it is now.
2. That the game I purchased never loses value, meaning it'll bring in a decent value if I should decide to sell it or trade it in.
Which also means that Nintendo isn't incentivized to insert bullshit GAaS transactions into the flow of the game proper.
Publishers made their bed and have to lie in it with these high budgets and devalued games from early, steep sales.
I'm a frugal person and always going to shop in smart ways. Especially the older I get and the less interested I am in shelling out on hobbies vs. travel, making memories with friends and family and saving to retire younger.
There's more games out and coming out and sequel-itis is a gigantic problem in this industry that hampers my enjoyment so I couldn't care less if buying cheap, selling after beating etc. lessens chances of a sequel or causes developers to go under etc. They aren't charities, they're corporations. I make my donations to organizations working to improve the world, not corporations selling products for profit.
I'm a frugal person and always going to shop in smart ways. Especially the older I get and the less interested I am in shelling out on hobbies vs. travel, making memories with friends and family and saving to retire younger.
There's more games out and coming out and sequel-itis is a gigantic problem in this industry that hampers my enjoyment so I couldn't care less if buying cheap, selling after beating etc. lessens chances of a sequel or causes developers to go under etc. They aren't charities, they're corporations. I make my donations to organizations working to improve the world, not corporations selling products for profit.
Yep. I've paid full-price for exactly one game this year, BOTW for Switch( I also got Mario Kart 8 DX at $48 with prime discount). Otherwise I haven't bought a single game over $20. I'm about to pull the trigger on both Uncharted LL and Horizon on $19.99 each off PSN, and I'll surely enjoy them just as much as if I had bought them full-priced. I've learned to become VERY patient over the years.
Yeah, I think they drop their prices too fast ( Bethesda, I mean) but on the other hand of a game sells they don't need to do this. And the game doesn't sell because people wait (and 1000 other reasons but it is one of them). So IT'S A CIIIIIRCLE OF LIFE (in schizophrenic Elton Johns voice).
