Ahh, the good ol' Streisand Effect in action I see! I'm sure nothing could possibly go wrong by doing this...
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Quantic Dream is suing two French media outlets over articles on toxic work conditions [Kotaku]
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And in those 74 years it NEVER got anything wrong! I think you keep missing my point. I do tend to believe the story, but I'm baffled by your confidence. It seems like you have a personal vendetta against David Cage or something.
Guess the fake news narrative is here in the gaming side now too. lol Guess all the journalists hate David Cage, who is completely innocent and never made questionable content before. Let's ignore all the evidence too - a guy making a videogame I want can't possibly lie, right.
Of course those 3 media outlets got the same word file from the senders.
If they are lying, or if if QD is lying, remains to see.
Cage is a weirdo. But the game looks great and Cage doesn't own it. I wanna play it asap.
Do video game such widely important topic in France? Would any mistake affect their credibility later on? (seriously asking I have no idea)
This is the difference between law and morality. With all the stories about a bad working environnement in this industry, QD reaction said a lot about how they manage the company.
You said above that you aren't defending him and yet you're trying to use this terrible strawman argument (he didn't say what you're claiming).
When 3 reputable newspapers with various sources, including photographic evidence bolstering the claims, come out with a story about someone who is previously known to produce questionable content... what's the saying? Where there's smoke?
LOL !
This is just a PR move before the release of Detroit in order to give the impression they are the victims. I don't buy it.
Le Monde and Mediapart are reknown for their excellent investigative work. So I'll side with them.
This is just a PR move before the release of Detroit in order to give the impression they are the victims. I don't buy it.
Le Monde and Mediapart are reknown for their excellent investigative work. So I'll side with them.
You are taking my comment out of context. What I said is exactly the reason I TEND TO BELIEVE THIS STORY. That was specific question to that one poster.
The amount of lies from reputable journalists, and all the fake proofs that it would require, make me very doubtful that these article were untrue or even inaccurate. It is most likely a PR move, and in this case is adding insult to injury.
Yo, those media companies have evidence of problems in QD. This is them digging a bigger hole and that hole was already big from the last 2 games they made.
Considering the kind of shit he has written in the past, and the fact that he has already admitted a bunch of the allegations are true but claimed they "weren't a big deal" I'd say people are right on the money.
Mediapart is a relatively new player (about 10 years old), but insofar, yes, they rarely do.
They released a number of hot papers on various scandals and always do so well prepared, as in with everything ready for justice in case they would be sued.
"Everything" meaning records, documents, testimonies, etc. They usually don't release a paper if it's not rock solid.
Doesn't mean they can't get anything wrong, but they're the kind that do their homework (so far at least).
Suing LeMonde.
David Cage is a joke, feel bad for the team and the people working in Quantic Dream.
David Cage is a joke, feel bad for the team and the people working in Quantic Dream.
In his defense, he did say he couldn't be racist or misogynist since he worked on games with Jesse Williams and Ellen Page. Case closed, the press is lying.
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Why people so quick to jump on any topic regarding QD and Cage? Even before this scandal some people unbelievably hate him for some reason?
This is really great actually. No way the court could be impartial. if the allegation is true then QD is as bad as it sounds and if not then life goes on...
The employees claims were ruled against but I think that was only 2 of 3 so one might still be going. However there probably isn't much reported on those since it would be a privacy concern for the employee.
Didn't the story suggest that pretty much everyone working at Quantic Dream is an asshole?
It takes a lot of confidence from Quantic Dream to jump into a lawsuit over this - especially give the pedigree of the outlets they're taking to court. It will be very interesting to see how this pans out.
If you're not fond of David Cage as it seems a lot of people here aren't, this lawsuit could even further legitimize the accusations and possibly bring legal ramifications against the studio, which would be much needed if the accusations are true.
On the other hand, if it's found that the articles aren't accurate and that the proper journalistic steps weren't taken, then it helps clear the air around the studio.
I'm sure everyone will wait for due process before jumping to any conclusions, of course.
If you're not fond of David Cage as it seems a lot of people here aren't, this lawsuit could even further legitimize the accusations and possibly bring legal ramifications against the studio, which would be much needed if the accusations are true.
On the other hand, if it's found that the articles aren't accurate and that the proper journalistic steps weren't taken, then it helps clear the air around the studio.
I'm sure everyone will wait for due process before jumping to any conclusions, of course.
Yeah not smart to sue some of the best newspaper in the country.
Hope they're prepared to face their probable loss in court.
Hope they're prepared to face their probable loss in court.
Please stop this. You can believe the journalists or criticize David Cage without making ridiculous generalizations and personal attacks.
French defamation laws are intense [and commonly used], I'm not surprised they are suing, but most likely nothing will come out of it.
He makes video games that some people don't like, ergo, he must be humiliated at every point. There cannot be thread without open attack on him.... Even here on Era mods are allowing it.
It still baffles me how people here excuse/don't care that QD violated Ellen Page's no nudity clause.
All of the allegations against the company feel pretty in line with their past behavior.
All of the allegations against the company feel pretty in line with their past behavior.
Was wondering what happened with the case when i saw the game went gold, guess QD didnt want me to forget it either by sueing them.
Suing newspapers for slandering/defamation is pretty common in France.
Lots of politicians or public figures involved in affairs revealed by the press bring them to court.
I'm not surprised by this move.
Lots of politicians or public figures involved in affairs revealed by the press bring them to court.
I'm not surprised by this move.
This is funny to me because it assumes there are only two possibilities.
If QD finds one thing that was slightly misrepresented or not entirely accurate, that doesn't negate everything else.
This is a PR move, plain and simple. For the QD Defense Force to rally around.
Slightly off topic, but since many people seem to doubt about the outlets and their coverage, I'll quote myself from an older thread about how the investigation happened:
Also, please Google / Wikipedia "Le Monde" and "Mediapart" before questioning their seriousness.
Also, please Google / Wikipedia "Le Monde" and "Mediapart" before questioning their seriousness.
In France (i'm from Paris) this lawsuit mean nothing. It's happen every day in politics and corporations. It's a PR move for the players or the shareholders.
That's not how you do a cover up. If anything it will bring more attention.
Yeah, I'm referring to the two extremes. You're right and it's probably most likely that literally nothing comes of this - it may even be tied up in legal procedure forever - I'm not familiar with the French judicial system.
That's my thinking too, why sue and put the matter in the spotlight again if there is no wrongdoing by the journalists and behind closed doors QD knows the articles are 100% true. We will see what happen, it's a shame some people here can behave when it comes to David Cage, it's like they have something personal against him.
Character models with realistic skin textures are standard practice for lead characters, even if the character is clothed. The textures are probably derived from another model. I don't think this really constitutes misogyny on anyone's part.
Just as a reminder of context, 2 out of 3 official complaints have been dismissed right off the bat by a jury made of employers and employees (Prud'Hommes).
This move (which indeed has a strong Streisand Effect spiraling possibly happening) might indicate they are confident they are going to win the 3rd and last official complaint.
This move (which indeed has a strong Streisand Effect spiraling possibly happening) might indicate they are confident they are going to win the 3rd and last official complaint.
It is not, in fact, common practice to include nude models of a character - in violation of your agreement with the individual in question - in a shipping video game. It is equally uncommon to include a shower scene in a non-pornographic video game. Both actions hint at a deeper evil.