Racism is Literally Killing African-American Mothers

mutantmagnet

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I was going to say something snarky but I wanted to say something of substance first.


An issue brief published by the Center for American Progress suggests that stress induced by racial discrimination plays a significant role in the high rates of black women’s maternal mortality.

My impression going into this thread was that there was clear observations of racism conducted by medical practitioners.


Feeling pressure of raising a kid in a racist society is a totally different problem.
 
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I was going to say something snarky but I wanted to say something of substance first.





My impression going into this thread was that there was clear observations of racism conducted by medical practitioners.


Feeling pressure of raising a kid in a racist society is a totally different problem.
I was told that you gotta be careful with doctors because they'll prescribe you medicine that can hurts you because white doctors belive blacks pain tolerance is different and also just being racists in general.
 

mutantmagnet

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I was told that you gotta be careful with doctors because they'll prescribe you medicine that can hurts you because white doctors belive blacks pain tolerance is different and also just being racists in general.
I recall that statistic but this study isn't a continuation of that. The solutions required would differ and I think it's harder to talk about protecting female family members from the overall stress of society than coming up with strategies to deal with healthcare professionals.
 

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I was told that you gotta be careful with doctors because they'll prescribe you medicine that can hurts you because white doctors belive blacks pain tolerance is different and also just being racists in general.
I remember seeing a Vox video on this but haven't the overarching medical community come away from the practices resulting from dubious studies of the past?
 

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I was going to say something snarky but I wanted to say something of substance first.





My impression going into this thread was that there was clear observations of racism conducted by medical practitioners.


Feeling pressure of raising a kid in a racist society is a totally different problem.
Yep. It's called "weathering".

Add in the fact minorities (especially black folks) are typically subconsciously viewed as being able to withstand more pain than our white counterparts (and that we view ourselves this way as well), and you get a race of people who ask for, and receive, less care than anyone else.
 

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Y'all ignoring how poor mothers in America get trash pre and post birth care which has a massive impact on this. (So racism via worse economic opportunity + a third world healthcare system).
 

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the sooner we stop thinking it's old people who are racist, the sooner we get to the foundation of the problem.
 

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This is why social justice must go hand in hand with economic justice. One cannot be achieved without the other.
 

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I've heard some tangentially related things about racism affecting the general health of people and/or their offspring before they are born. Gonna start reading the links in this thread
 

RSena7

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I think I listened to something about this on Radio Atlantic or one of the PBS podcasts a while back. I suggest those who prefer listening go and check it out. Super interesting and confounding stuff.
 

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Y'all ignoring how poor mothers in America get trash pre and post birth care which has a massive impact on this. (So racism via worse economic opportunity + a third world healthcare system).
My wife and I took our son to a pediatrician that had no white people besides ourselves. The service and care were absolutely horrific. I actually had to convince the nurse to treat my son like a human being instead of a dog. We called to tell them why we wouldn't be coming back and they didn't even care. I imagine that many people are forced to go there because they have no alternatives, and they receive continually subpar care as a result.
 
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I've heard some tangentially related things about racism affecting the general health of people and/or their offspring before they are born. Gonna start reading the links in this thread
The trauma of things like slavery and Jim crow fucks us up before we even leave the womb. Studies out there say things like that and the Holocaust can cause trauma that's genetic.
 

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I was told that you gotta be careful with doctors because they'll prescribe you medicine that can hurts you because white doctors belive blacks pain tolerance is different and also just being racists in general.
But this is actually true, and it is important to stop focusing so much on just white people when testing medication. Pain is a lot more complicated than most people, and there are measurable differences between not just between black and white people but other groups as well. Different types of pain, for example from a cut or a burn can be more or less intense, requiring a higher or lower dose of medication. And different types of (pain) meds differ in efficacy as well.

That said, all humans have an easier type empathizing with people that are similar to them, and it's that empathy that helps you recognize the pain or distress the patient is in. White doctors do effectively - no matter if they hold racist believes or not - estimate lower amounts of pain in black patients compared to white patients and as a result on average prescribe fewer pain meds.
This means the best advice for black people, or other people with an appearance unlike that found in the doctors family, is not the estimate if the doctor is racist/bigoted or not(because even if not, that won't help you), but to try to better communicate your pain in a verbal manner. So say your pain on a scale of ten and increase it to compensate, instead of letting the doctor make his own judgement based on your cries of pain and agonized facial expressions. This sucks, be we humans suck like that.
 

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But this is actually true, and it is important to stop focusing so much on just white people when testing medication. Pain is a lot more complicated than most people, and there are measurable differences between not just between black and white people but other groups as well. Different types of pain, for example from a cut or a burn can be more or less intense, requiring a higher or lower dose of medication. And different types of (pain) meds differ in efficacy as well.
wait, based on what?
 

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The trauma of things like slavery and Jim crow fucks us up before we even leave the womb. Studies out there say things like that and the Holocaust can cause trauma that's genetic.
I read up on that study about how the holocaust physically changed the genetics of descendants and my mind damn near exploded at the thought of what hundreds of years of slavery have done to my people.
 

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Black people are abused by nearly every posiion of power, not just the police. Billion dollar companies, law makers, politicians, the FBI, the DEA, all racist.
Yep but when we talk about it they change the narrative every fucking time and them groups know who I'm talking about.

So where is feminist now they dont give a shit about black women never did never will.
 
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Yep but when we talk about it they change the narrative every fucking time and them groups know who I'm talking about.

So where is feminist now they dont give a shit about black women never did never will.
Imma keep it 100%, I never paid no attention to those white women because they was never touching on the things my women was going through and historicaly, the white woman feminist movement is very racist. It's why you don't see no intersectionality from this way. Hell nah.
 

BlackAlmighty

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Imma keep it 100%, I never paid no attention to those white women because they was never touching on the things my women was going through and historicaly, the white woman feminist movement is very racist. It's why you don't see no intersectionality from this way. Hell nah.
Yep when I saw pictures they posted they had black women on it trying to be slick. Every group in this racist country wants to use blacks for their agenda but when something happens to black people they go MIA all the time. They want to act surprise it amazes me. They live in some illusion that it's black people fault.
 
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Yep when I saw pictures they posted they had black women on it trying to be slick. Every group in this racist country wants to use blacks for their agenda but when something happens to black people they go MIA all the time. They want to act surprise it amazes me. They live in some illusion that it's black people fault.
Yup, I'm tired of the co-opting
 

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Imma keep it 100%, I never paid no attention to those white women because they was never touching on the things my women was going through and historicaly, the white woman feminist movement is very racist. It's why you don't see no intersectionality from this way. Hell nah.
Yep when I saw pictures they posted they had black women on it trying to be slick. Every group in this racist country wants to use blacks for their agenda but when something happens to black people they go MIA all the time. They want to act surprise it amazes me. They live in some illusion that it's black people fault.
Y'all need to relax. Soundin like them Black Identity Extremists
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