You're assuming they want the story to die downExcellent, now the story will never die down.
And they have no one to blame but themselves.
Basically, the narrative started that the racists kids were mocking a Native American.What are all these other videos that are making people backpedal, etc??
This is the most disingenuous and factually incorrect summary of the situation I've read yet, congrats.Basically, the narrative started that the racists kids were mocking a Native American.
New video surfaced that revealed that the racist kids were in a bigoted shouting match with some black Israeli group when the Native American came up to try and defuse the situation. THEN The racist kids started mocking a Native American.
So, because the Native American walked up to them, they and their supporters think their racism is fine.
Well...your..nose is most disingenuous and factually incorrect.This is the most disingenuous and factually incorrect summary of the situation I've read yet, congrats.
I'd be curious to hear your version.This is the most disingenuous and factually incorrect summary of the situation I've read yet, congrats.
What's your summary of the situation then? Honestly curiousThis is the most disingenuous and factually incorrect summary of the situation I've read yet, congrats.
Bet it goes great with buttery males too. So many toppings to add on!Privilege so thick and rich you could drizzle it on pancakes....
Yeah. The kids are still shit heel racists."watch the whole video!!!!111!!"
*watches whole video*
It's still just as racist.
I'll start by saying that this:I'd be curious to hear your version.
This shit is like Rashomon.
But they were indoctrinated into racism by black men, only moments before throwing tomahawks down at a native American.
Why wont you all think of the racist kids????But they were indoctrinated into racism by black men, only moments before throwing tomahawks down at a native American.
Those poor choirboys were only trying to pray silently while they were viciously attacked by a war drum.
He "inserted himself into the situation" though. Brought it all on himself. Poor boys. I'm going to write them a check.But they were indoctrinated into racism by black men, only moments before throwing tomahawks down at a native American.
Those poor choirboys were only trying to pray silently while they were viciously attacked by a war drum.
Ah ok, thanks. Haven’t seen those vids but seems like something they would use to try and spin this to play the bs victim card, etc.Basically, the narrative started that the racists kids were mocking a Native American.
New video surfaced that revealed that the racist kids were in a bigoted shouting match with some black Israeli group when the Native American came up to try and defuse the situation. THEN The racist kids started mocking a Native American.
So, because the Native American walked up to them, they and their supporters think their racism is fine.
more of a HALO drop, really.He "inserted himself into the situation" though. Brought it all on himself. Poor boys. I'm going to write them a check.
Now this is disingenuous. The lengths people go to downplay racism.I'll start by saying that this:
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/01/covington-overcorrection/580987/
Is the best article I've read on the entire debacle and I think everyone should read it.
Now, as for my version:
The initial tweet was framed disingenuously in order to create drama. That is factual, the twitter account was banned after it came out they were a fake news account.
The initial reaction was to a few pictures and a short video, my reaction was the same as many "these racists pricks accosted and surrounded a peacefully protesting native american man and racially mocked him".
Then more video came out showing that Nathan Philips actually inserted himself into the group of racist kids in an attempt to stop some imagined confrontation between the racist kids and a group of homophobic bigoted Black Israelites. The mocking by some was racially charged, but some were just dancing along to the chanting which may be disrespectful but not racist, while others were just standing there dumbfounded by the entire situation.
Sandmann himself is likely a racist little privileged prick of a kid... but the incident does not reflect that, nor does the confrontation between him and Nathan Philips represent harassment or racial mocking.
In the end, this "confrontation" is mostly nothing, blow completely out of proportion by a twitter culture that craves drama and by over-correcting celebrities and news organizations.
That's a lot of words excusing white kids sporting MAGA hats throwing tomahawks at native Americans. This is some truly shameful shit. No one cares who approached who because it doesn't erase the racism.I'll start by saying that this:
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/01/covington-overcorrection/580987/
Is the best article I've read on the entire debacle and I think everyone should read it.
Now, as for my version:
The initial tweet was framed disingenuously in order to create drama. That is factual, the twitter account was banned after it came out they were a fake news account.
The initial reaction was to a few pictures and a short video, my reaction was the same as many "these racists pricks accosted and surrounded a peacefully protesting native american man and racially mocked him".
Then more video came out showing that Nathan Philips actually inserted himself into the group of racist kids in an attempt to stop some imagined confrontation between the racist kids and a group of homophobic bigoted Black Israelites. The mocking by some was racially charged, but some were just dancing along to the chanting which may be disrespectful but not racist, while others were just standing there dumbfounded by the entire situation.
Sandmann himself is likely a racist little privileged prick of a kid... but the incident does not reflect that, nor does the confrontation between him and Nathan Philips represent harassment or racial mocking.
In the end, this "confrontation" is mostly nothing, blow completely out of proportion by a twitter culture that craves drama and by over-correcting celebrities and news organizations.
How so?Now this is disingenuous. The lengths people go to downplay racism.
I'm sorry, can you specifically point out where I am excusing anything?That's a lot of words excusing white kids sporting MAGA hats throwing tomahawks at native Americans. This is some truly shameful shit. No one cares who approached who because it doesn't erase the racism.
But keep peddling this both sides shit for privileged, racist white kids who are rich enough to hire PR firms to spin for them while the media gobbles it up.
The mocking by some was racially charged, but some were just dancing along to the chanting
Thanks for that. Before you clarified I actually thought you were upset at that comment in the other direction... for going too soft.I'll start by saying that this:
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/01/covington-overcorrection/580987/
Is the best article I've read on the entire debacle and I think everyone should read it.
Now, as for my version:
The initial tweet was framed disingenuously in order to create drama. That is factual, the twitter account was banned after it came out they were a fake news account.
The initial reaction was to a few pictures and a short video, my reaction was the same as many "these racists pricks accosted and surrounded a peacefully protesting native american man and racially mocked him".
Then more video came out showing that Nathan Philips actually inserted himself into the group of racist kids in an attempt to stop some imagined confrontation between the racist kids and a group of homophobic bigoted Black Israelites. The mocking by some was racially charged, but some were just dancing along to the chanting which may be disrespectful but not racist, while others were just standing there dumbfounded by the entire situation.
Sandmann himself is likely a racist little privileged prick of a kid... but the incident does not reflect that, nor does the confrontation between him and Nathan Philips represent harassment or racial mocking.
In the end, this "confrontation" is mostly nothing, blow completely out of proportion by a twitter culture that craves drama and by over-correcting celebrities and news organizations.
I tried to be as specific and detailed as possible in order to avoid shit like this and yet, here you are claiming I'm saying thing that I'm not saying.We're now at the point of the thread where treating native Americans like a sports mascot is dancing and singing
Absolutely, it's a barometer for partisanship. What ACTUALLY happened doesn't matter because the kids are most definitely racist or because the kids are most definitely just kids.Thanks for that. Before you clarified I actually thought you were upset at that comment in the other direction... for going too soft.
I think the thing is that once this imagery had been locked in as a political tool, it became seen as partisan to provide clarity or context for what we were seeing.
All these "probablies" and "maybes". I can't hold themHow so?
Also, where did I downplay racism?
I'm sorry, can you specifically point out where I am excusing anything?
Like, specifically? I go out of my way to say that Sandmann is probably a racist shithead.
Can you quote where I said "probably" or "maybe" in my post explaining the situation?
Then maybe you shouldn't be disingenuous with your framing, arguing that the confrontation was "mostly nothing". Bullshit.I tried to be as specific and detailed as possible in order to avoid shit like this and yet, here you are claiming I'm saying thing that I'm not saying.
That additional context is irrelevant to the confrontation between Philips and the group of kids?Then maybe you shouldn't be disingenuous with your framing, arguing that the confrontation was "mostly nothing". Bullshit.
Did your additional context also link the videos where these kids were shouting rape jokes and catcalling women walking by? Or the kid who told the native Americans their land was supposed to be stolen because that's just now it goes?
But.. yeah, must be mostly nothing I guess
Because you posted half assed context, which I just brought to your attention. Read my post again. You left out damning parts of the video.It was mostly nothing, and I'm not being disingenuous? Why do you assume I am?
There is the probably again.That additional context is irrelevant to the confrontation between Philips and the group of kids?
Other than to show, yes, they're probably shitheads?
"The Video" was an hour and forty minute video showing the confrontation between the Black Israelites and the Covington kids and eventually (for a very short time) Nathan Philips.Because you posted half assed context, which I just brought to your attention. Read my post again. You left out damning parts of the video.
I'll probably say it again too :(
There were multiple videos from multiple cameras, taken at various times throughout the day. What is your point?"The Video" was an hour and forty minute video showing the confrontation between the Black Israelites and the Covington kids and eventually (for a very short time) Nathan Philips.
The other videos were taken at other times.
Haha I can't even with these fucking people.Because you posted half assed context, which I just brought to your attention. Read my post again. You left out damning parts of the video.
This is about the confrontation between Convington protesters and Nathan Philips. This is not about their sexist behavior shown in other videos.There were multiple videos from multiple cameras, taken at various times throughout the day. What is your point?
Yet here you are choosing and selecting a context that leaves out racist and sexist behavior.
Are you ignorant to the full context or just posting in bad faith?
I know! I just never thought of saying it in the racist format. :lolThe original quote is "play stupid games, win stupid prizes." Pretty common saying.
Ah, you're a racist apologizer. That puts the nuanced context on your earlier response to me.This is about the confrontation between Convington protesters and Nathan Philips. This is not about their sexist behavior shown in other videos.
It has absolutely nothing to do with the them and Nathan Philips. Which is what the entire internet blow up was about.
Oh, ok, so you are posting in bad faith. As if the context of these kids catcalling, making sexist jokes and racist commentary about justifying native Americans' stolen land is irrelevant to what transpired. Since their entire defense relies on spinning the narrative into "we were just innocent choirboys doing silent prayers until the mean minority inserted himself into the situation". Give me a fucking break.This is about the confrontation between Convington protesters and Nathan Philips. This is not about their sexist behavior shown in other videos.
It has absolutely nothing to do with the them and Nathan Philips. Which is what the entire internet blow up was about.