Racist Covington Kids To Sue Everyone Who Thinks They're Racists

Doggg

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So some of them are going to get paid for being racist little shits. Man, this fucking country.
 
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DrForester

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What are all these other videos that are making people backpedal, etc??
Basically, the narrative started that the racists kids were mocking a Native American.

New video surfaced that revealed that the racist kids were in a bigoted shouting match with some black Israeli group when the Native American came up to try and defuse the situation. THEN The racist kids started mocking a Native American.

So, because the Native American walked up to them, they and their supporters think their racism is fine.
 

HStallion

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This feels like a really dumb move on their part. Wouldn't this open them up to all kinds of fun during discovery? Not too mention the extended and constant scrutiny of them at all times.
 

marrec

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Basically, the narrative started that the racists kids were mocking a Native American.

New video surfaced that revealed that the racist kids were in a bigoted shouting match with some black Israeli group when the Native American came up to try and defuse the situation. THEN The racist kids started mocking a Native American.

So, because the Native American walked up to them, they and their supporters think their racism is fine.
This is the most disingenuous and factually incorrect summary of the situation I've read yet, congrats.
 

Sunster

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"watch the whole video!!!!111!!"

*watches whole video*

It's still just as racist.
 

marrec

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I'd be curious to hear your version.

This shit is like Rashomon.
I'll start by saying that this:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/01/covington-overcorrection/580987/

Is the best article I've read on the entire debacle and I think everyone should read it.

Now, as for my version:

The initial tweet was framed disingenuously in order to create drama. That is factual, the twitter account was banned after it came out they were a fake news account.

The initial reaction was to a few pictures and a short video, my reaction was the same as many "these racists pricks accosted and surrounded a peacefully protesting native american man and racially mocked him".

Then more video came out showing that Nathan Philips actually inserted himself into the group of racist kids in an attempt to stop some imagined confrontation between the racist kids and a group of homophobic bigoted Black Israelites. The mocking by some was racially charged, but some were just dancing along to the chanting which may be disrespectful but not racist, while others were just standing there dumbfounded by the entire situation.

Sandmann himself is likely a racist little privileged prick of a kid... but the incident does not reflect that, nor does the confrontation between him and Nathan Philips represent harassment or racial mocking.

In the end, this "confrontation" is mostly nothing, blow completely out of proportion by a twitter culture that craves drama and by over-correcting celebrities and news organizations.
 

Sunster

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But they were indoctrinated into racism by black men, only moments before throwing tomahawks down at a native American.

Those poor choirboys were only trying to pray silently while they were viciously attacked by a war drum.
He "inserted himself into the situation" though. Brought it all on himself. Poor boys. I'm going to write them a check.
 

Braag

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I saw the video. They're all racist little shits with very soft skin apparently.
 

FTF

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Basically, the narrative started that the racists kids were mocking a Native American.

New video surfaced that revealed that the racist kids were in a bigoted shouting match with some black Israeli group when the Native American came up to try and defuse the situation. THEN The racist kids started mocking a Native American.

So, because the Native American walked up to them, they and their supporters think their racism is fine.
Ah ok, thanks. Haven’t seen those vids but seems like something they would use to try and spin this to play the bs victim card, etc.
 

Raguel

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I'll start by saying that this:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/01/covington-overcorrection/580987/

Is the best article I've read on the entire debacle and I think everyone should read it.

Now, as for my version:

The initial tweet was framed disingenuously in order to create drama. That is factual, the twitter account was banned after it came out they were a fake news account.

The initial reaction was to a few pictures and a short video, my reaction was the same as many "these racists pricks accosted and surrounded a peacefully protesting native american man and racially mocked him".

Then more video came out showing that Nathan Philips actually inserted himself into the group of racist kids in an attempt to stop some imagined confrontation between the racist kids and a group of homophobic bigoted Black Israelites. The mocking by some was racially charged, but some were just dancing along to the chanting which may be disrespectful but not racist, while others were just standing there dumbfounded by the entire situation.

Sandmann himself is likely a racist little privileged prick of a kid... but the incident does not reflect that, nor does the confrontation between him and Nathan Philips represent harassment or racial mocking.

In the end, this "confrontation" is mostly nothing, blow completely out of proportion by a twitter culture that craves drama and by over-correcting celebrities and news organizations.
Now this is disingenuous. The lengths people go to downplay racism.
 

Surfinn

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I'll start by saying that this:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/01/covington-overcorrection/580987/

Is the best article I've read on the entire debacle and I think everyone should read it.

Now, as for my version:

The initial tweet was framed disingenuously in order to create drama. That is factual, the twitter account was banned after it came out they were a fake news account.

The initial reaction was to a few pictures and a short video, my reaction was the same as many "these racists pricks accosted and surrounded a peacefully protesting native american man and racially mocked him".

Then more video came out showing that Nathan Philips actually inserted himself into the group of racist kids in an attempt to stop some imagined confrontation between the racist kids and a group of homophobic bigoted Black Israelites. The mocking by some was racially charged, but some were just dancing along to the chanting which may be disrespectful but not racist, while others were just standing there dumbfounded by the entire situation.

Sandmann himself is likely a racist little privileged prick of a kid... but the incident does not reflect that, nor does the confrontation between him and Nathan Philips represent harassment or racial mocking.

In the end, this "confrontation" is mostly nothing, blow completely out of proportion by a twitter culture that craves drama and by over-correcting celebrities and news organizations.
That's a lot of words excusing white kids sporting MAGA hats throwing tomahawks at native Americans. This is some truly shameful shit. No one cares who approached who because it doesn't erase the racism.

But keep peddling this both sides shit for privileged, racist white kids who are rich enough to hire PR firms to spin for them while you and the media gobble it up.
 

marrec

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Now this is disingenuous. The lengths people go to downplay racism.
How so?

Also, where did I downplay racism?

That's a lot of words excusing white kids sporting MAGA hats throwing tomahawks at native Americans. This is some truly shameful shit. No one cares who approached who because it doesn't erase the racism.

But keep peddling this both sides shit for privileged, racist white kids who are rich enough to hire PR firms to spin for them while the media gobbles it up.
I'm sorry, can you specifically point out where I am excusing anything?

Like, specifically? I go out of my way to say that Sandmann is probably a racist shithead.
 

Surfinn

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We're now at the point of the thread where treating native Americans like a sports mascot is dancing and singing
 

BocoDragon

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I'll start by saying that this:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/01/covington-overcorrection/580987/

Is the best article I've read on the entire debacle and I think everyone should read it.

Now, as for my version:

The initial tweet was framed disingenuously in order to create drama. That is factual, the twitter account was banned after it came out they were a fake news account.

The initial reaction was to a few pictures and a short video, my reaction was the same as many "these racists pricks accosted and surrounded a peacefully protesting native american man and racially mocked him".

Then more video came out showing that Nathan Philips actually inserted himself into the group of racist kids in an attempt to stop some imagined confrontation between the racist kids and a group of homophobic bigoted Black Israelites. The mocking by some was racially charged, but some were just dancing along to the chanting which may be disrespectful but not racist, while others were just standing there dumbfounded by the entire situation.

Sandmann himself is likely a racist little privileged prick of a kid... but the incident does not reflect that, nor does the confrontation between him and Nathan Philips represent harassment or racial mocking.

In the end, this "confrontation" is mostly nothing, blow completely out of proportion by a twitter culture that craves drama and by over-correcting celebrities and news organizations.
Thanks for that. Before you clarified I actually thought you were upset at that comment in the other direction... for going too soft.

I think the thing is that once this imagery had been locked in as a political tool, it became seen as partisan to provide clarity or context for what we were seeing. You'll surely get pushback for this post (edit: there it is... already started).
 

marrec

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We're now at the point of the thread where treating native Americans like a sports mascot is dancing and singing
I tried to be as specific and detailed as possible in order to avoid shit like this and yet, here you are claiming I'm saying thing that I'm not saying.

Thanks for that. Before you clarified I actually thought you were upset at that comment in the other direction... for going too soft.

I think the thing is that once this imagery had been locked in as a political tool, it became seen as partisan to provide clarity or context for what we were seeing.
Absolutely, it's a barometer for partisanship. What ACTUALLY happened doesn't matter because the kids are most definitely racist or because the kids are most definitely just kids.
 

Surfinn

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I tried to be as specific and detailed as possible in order to avoid shit like this and yet, here you are claiming I'm saying thing that I'm not saying.
Then maybe you shouldn't be disingenuous with your framing, arguing that the confrontation was "mostly nothing". Bullshit.

Did your additional context also link the videos where these kids were shouting rape jokes and catcalling women walking by? Or the kid who told the native Americans their land was supposed to be stolen because that's just now it goes?

But.. yeah, must be mostly nothing I guess
 

marrec

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Then maybe you shouldn't be disingenuous with your framing, arguing that the confrontation was "mostly nothing". Bullshit.

Did your additional context also link the videos where these kids were shouting rape jokes and catcalling women walking by? Or the kid who told the native Americans their land was supposed to be stolen because that's just now it goes?

But.. yeah, must be mostly nothing I guess
That additional context is irrelevant to the confrontation between Philips and the group of kids?

Other than to show, yes, they're probably shitheads?
 

marrec

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Because you posted half assed context, which I just brought to your attention. Read my post again. You left out damning parts of the video.
"The Video" was an hour and forty minute video showing the confrontation between the Black Israelites and the Covington kids and eventually (for a very short time) Nathan Philips.

The other videos were taken at other times.

There is the probably again.
I'll probably say it again too :(
 

Surfinn

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"The Video" was an hour and forty minute video showing the confrontation between the Black Israelites and the Covington kids and eventually (for a very short time) Nathan Philips.

The other videos were taken at other times.
There were multiple videos from multiple cameras, taken at various times throughout the day. What is your point?

Yet here you are choosing and selecting a context that leaves out racist and sexist behavior.

Are you ignorant to the full context or just posting in bad faith? Either way you need to reconsider your approach to this topic.
 

Akira86

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those young men were confronting nathan phillips, I'll buy that.

that it was mostly nothing, is a no sale.

it's funny how every time this works out, it all but absolves the boys from being anything but "little shits".
 

marrec

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There were multiple videos from multiple cameras, taken at various times throughout the day. What is your point?

Yet here you are choosing and selecting a context that leaves out racist and sexist behavior.

Are you ignorant to the full context or just posting in bad faith?
This is about the confrontation between Convington protesters and Nathan Philips. This is not about their sexist behavior shown in other videos.

It has absolutely nothing to do with the them and Nathan Philips. Which is what the entire internet blow up was about.
 

Jintor

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is this from the kids or the school?

bet the free speech warriors are up in arms about this!
 

Wood Man

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Great, so this story is back in the cycle. I'm tired of seeing that smug kid's grin on the news. Just shut up and go away you racist assholes.
 
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This is about the confrontation between Convington protesters and Nathan Philips. This is not about their sexist behavior shown in other videos.

It has absolutely nothing to do with the them and Nathan Philips. Which is what the entire internet blow up was about.
Ah, you're a racist apologizer. That puts the nuanced context on your earlier response to me.
 

Surfinn

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This is about the confrontation between Convington protesters and Nathan Philips. This is not about their sexist behavior shown in other videos.

It has absolutely nothing to do with the them and Nathan Philips. Which is what the entire internet blow up was about.
Oh, ok, so you are posting in bad faith. As if the context of these kids catcalling, making sexist jokes and racist commentary about justifying native Americans' stolen land is irrelevant to what transpired. Since their entire defense relies on spinning the narrative into "we were just innocent choirboys doing silent prayers until the mean minority inserted himself into the situation". Give me a fucking break.

Or is this all just under your category of "mostly nothing"?